KingKirk 25,606 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RangersMedia 35,961 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 That's generally what a Director of Football does...the manager has input and at some clubs the manager has final sign-off but it is the DoF who identifies and pursues targets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Considering we don't have a manager then he will aye, he shouldn't though when we have an actual manager in charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,474 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 They want a British manager but have adopted a continental style set up. If anything summed up this lot it would be that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 As long as they're decent then I don't care who signs them. Has to be better than bringing in managers who then sign all the players they got along with at their previous clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,606 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, psb07158 said: That's generally what a Director of Football does...the manager has input and at some clubs the manager has final sign-off but it is the DoF who identifies and pursues targets. I thought it was other way about manager tells DOF who he wants and within reason the DOF goes and does the deal ? Right we have 3 midfielders here pick what one you want really? what if he wants none of them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,754 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Not a fan of that set up at all tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, RDFM said: Considering we don't have a manager then he will aye, he shouldn't though when we have an actual manager in charge. not sure thats how it works anymore - the manager says he needs a left back, the DoF goes and gets a list of left backs we can afford, then him and the manager prioritise them and the DoF tries to sign the top priorities... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, cushynumber said: not sure thats how it works anymore - the manager says he needs a left back, the DoF goes and gets a list of left backs we can afford, then him and the manager prioritise them and the DoF tries to sign the top priorities... The manager asks for a player, the DoF and scouting team compile a list of players that suit what the manager asks for along with the general club ethos, the manager picks from that list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,606 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, DBBTB said: Not a fan of that set up at all tbh. Its rotten IMO head coach to train them DOF signs them. Think it was you that suggested Mclaren would work well if that was his role Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, KingKirk said: I thought it was other way about manager tells DOF who he wants and within reason the DOF goes and does the deal ? Right we have 3 midfielders here pick what one you want really? what if he wants none of them? Nope. Manager will identify areas in the team he wants strengthened. If the DoF agrees, he'll identify and pursue targets. Manager may or may not get final sign-off on that player. It's the way European clubs have operated for years and years. Recruitment is not the manager's responsibility in the setup. Coaching the first team is. I think most British managers would absolutely demand to have final sign-off on transfers, but in Europe it's less accepted that they do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,606 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Nope. Manager will identify areas in the team he wants strengthened. If the DoF agrees, he'll identify and pursue targets. Manager may or may not get final sign-off on that player. It's the way European clubs have operated for years and years. Recruitment is not the manager's responsibility in the setup. Coaching the first team is. I think most British managers would absolutely demand to have final sign-off on transfers, but in Europe it's less accepted that they do. car crash waiting to happen IMO this guy was the head of city's academy I have my doubts about him doing the job Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,754 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Its rotten IMO head coach to train them DOF signs them. Think it was you that suggested Mclaren would work well if that was his role He would. His strength has always been his coaching on the training pitch. It’s everything else he’s a disaster at Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 That'll just be Murty talking like that because he's a caretaker manager, would hope so anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, cushynumber said: not sure thats how it works anymore - the manager says he needs a left back, the DoF goes and gets a list of left backs we can afford, then him and the manager prioritise them and the DoF tries to sign the top priorities... Nice easy and simple with 2 or 3 heads involved instead of just one over inflated ego of a manager. Why folk can’t see this as a good thing is beyond me, also it keeps Robertson well away so it’s all good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,474 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: Nice easy and simple with 2 or 3 heads involved instead of just one over inflated ego of a manager. Why folk can’t see this as a good thing is beyond me, also it keeps Robertson well away so it’s all good. Aye 2 or 3 people having to come to an agreement over which players to sign is simpler than letting the manager pick the players he wants at his disposal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Gustav said: Aye 2 or 3 people having to come to an agreement over which players to sign is simpler than letting the manager pick the players he wants at his disposal Aye very simple and cuts down on the chance of a manager bringing in shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,606 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: Nice easy and simple with 2 or 3 heads involved instead of just one over inflated ego of a manager. Why folk can’t see this as a good thing is beyond me, also it keeps Robertson well away so it’s all good. I assume he takes responsibility if they fail and walks awayIf a manager is sacked etc on results then IMO signings should be his job. Every manager that fails can say they weren't his players if he had a say none would be at the club then what? Sack DOF start again ? Its about time we got a fuckin grip Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTav 970 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Why would our caretaker manager be in charge of recruitment? Of course our DOF and scouting department should be in charge of recruitment, building a database of suitable players so that when a manager comes in there is a list of potential players available. It's worked for Man City, Chelsea, Madrid, Southampton and countless others. Why shouldn't we modernise the club? Some folk on here love a moan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,474 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: Aye very simple and cuts down on the chance of a manager bringing in shit. No it doesn't, it increases the chances of a manager having to work with players he might not want to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, Gustav said: No it doesn't, it increases the chances of a manager having to work with players he might not want to. Tough titty for the manager. After the players that Warbs and Pedro landed us with, I'd rather the catering staff signed the next batch of players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,016 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I wouldn't want Murty in charge of signings Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,474 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, FSM said: Tough titty for the manager. After the players that Warbs and Pedro landed us with, I'd rather the catering staff signed the next batch of players. Hopefully that isn't the boards attitude because nobody with any self respect is going to take the job. Make sure you appoint the right manager and you don't have to worry about this sort of nonsense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,606 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Aye very simple and cuts down on the chance of a manager bringing in shit. Ask spurs fans how they felt 90million was spent when they sold bale that was the DOF. Unless you have a bottomless pit of cash mate the DOF system wont work Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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