stewaj3 1,446 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Read on twitter, a Cardiff fan saying that after we signed John, that we now had 4 full backs all decent going forward but useless at the back. I was raging. Can't believe he thinks Lee hodson is decent going forward. In all seriousness I think this is an issue that needs addressed. We needed a manager to come in and sort us out. Make us difficult to beat then add quality to the team. A new manager, not murty should have been appointed to assess the team and to start making moved for next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I wouldn't say we have a defence in general Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, .Williamson. said: I wouldn't say we have a defence in general the banter is flowing today as will the beer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just now, Band of Brothers said: the banter is flowing today as will the beer I'm well into the whisky here atm mate. Girlfriend hasn't woke up yet so I could be in for a good solid telling off any minute now for this behaviour Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, .Williamson. said: I'm well into the whisky here atm mate. Girlfriend hasn't woke up yet so I could be in for a good solid telling off any minute now for this behaviour Your lucky my wife keeps spirits out the house as I usually go on a taig killing spree after a bottle a JD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Most fullbacks these days are stronger going forward than defending. The game has changed and managers/coaches see them as being more important in the opposition half than their own. They are also now encouraged to attack in tandem whereas in the past onee invariably held back in order that they could tuck in and cover if a move broke down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 James Tavernier: 3 goals and 5 assists. Declan John: 3 goals and 2 assists. Lee Wallace: 1 assists. Our full-backs have contributed to over a third of our league goals. They're an asset to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcb 649 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Fool backs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,469 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 hours ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: James Tavernier: 3 goals and 5 assists. Declan John: 3 goals and 2 assists. Lee Wallace: 1 assists. Our full-backs have contributed to over a third of our league goals. They're an asset to us. How many goals against have they played their part in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottonRunt 978 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 We really need to go to a back 3 imo. Elton and Tav are a massive asset going forward. Also means we can have a 3 man midfield which would stop us being bullied off the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,214 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 hours ago, .Williamson. said: I'm well into the whisky here atm mate. Girlfriend hasn't woke up yet so I could be in for a good solid . Sorted that for you mate........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,005 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 hours ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: James Tavernier: 3 goals and 5 assists. Declan John: 3 goals and 2 assists. Lee Wallace: 1 assists. Our full-backs have contributed to over a third of our league goals. They're an asset to us. We have had too many goals lost from wide areas, defenders should defend first, attack second. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 5 hours ago, dummiesoot said: We have had too many goals lost from wide areas, defenders should defend first, attack second. It's our inability to boss the midfield or get a proper CB pairing that's costing us goals. We're too powder puff through the middle and that's been the case since we got promoted back in to the top-tier. We can't have youth academy players and midgets like Jason Holt running around in there anymore because we're getting bossed. We should be dominating possession against most teams in this league. If we're dominating possession the full-backs ability to go forward will be more of an asset than their ability to defend. A few years ago Izaguirre tore apart this league despite the fact he couldn't defend because his team were always on the front foot. Whittaker was worse than Tavernier and we won trebles with guys like him at RB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I don’t care about the full backs unless we have 2 good centre backs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcb 649 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Fuck the pope Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Right down the centre of the team is weak. We need a strong centre forward so Morelos can take advantage, we need at least one strong and skilful midfielder that can comand the centre of the pitch and two centre backs to own the defence. McCrorie is good but he is young and still learning his trade but he is one for the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza1212 1,212 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 8 hours ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: James Tavernier: 3 goals and 5 assists. Declan John: 3 goals and 2 assists. Lee Wallace: 1 assists. Our full-backs have contributed to over a third of our league goals. They're an asset to us. And how many goals have we conceded due to their inability to defend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza1212 1,212 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: It's our inability to boss the midfield or get a proper CB pairing that's costing us goals. We're too powder puff through the middle and that's been the case since we got promoted back in to the top-tier. We can't have youth academy players and midgets like Jason Holt running around in there anymore because we're getting bossed. We should be dominating possession against most teams in this league. If we're dominating possession the full-backs ability to go forward will be more of an asset than their ability to defend. A few years ago Izaguirre tore apart this league despite the fact he couldn't defend because his team were always on the front foot. Whittaker was worse than Tavernier and we won trebles with guys like him at RB. Your right about whittaker although at least he could put a fucking tackle in something Tavernier seems incapable of doing. Your heart is literally in your mouth every time a wide man runs at him because inevitably he's going to breeze past him. It's a bit unfair to single him out especially as the rest are equally inept. He just seems to embody all that's wrong with our defence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,428 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Hodson looks genuinely scared of the football, up there with Bates. Tav has regressed completely since Hibs, like it’s unbelievable how bad he’s become literally overnight. John is much more suited pushed forward clearly. So we basically have no fullbacks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyG93 154 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Hodson has to get to fuck.. fuckin shitter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, ZZed said: Right down the centre of the team is weak. We need a strong centre forward so Morelos can take advantage, we need at least one strong and skilful midfielder that can comand the centre of the pitch and two centre backs to own the defence. McCrorie is good but he is young and still learning his trade but he is one for the future. I said the same thing a few weeks ago. A spine of big physical players who can put themselves about is desperately needed. We're being outfought and pushed about by other teams and it needs addressed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Fullbacks that defend ???? Just stopping cross after cross coming into the box would be a start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 The fullbacks are (relatively to our level) talented footballers. If they are not defending properly then it's as much an issue of management as anything else. It's not hugely difficult to pick your moments to get ahead of the ball, to press a winger when he receives the ball instead of dropping off and letting him turn, to make contact before the box rather than waiting until he's in it and your options lessen, to stop crosses rather than standing back and waiting for them. Have any of our managers/coaches told the fullbacks if they don't do the above they'll be in the stand watching next week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 951 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 With six first pick players out today was alway's going to be tough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 With the full backs we have we are better going to a back 3. The problem is Alves , Cardoso, Bates and Wilson I don't know you could get and 3 out of the 4 to regularly perform well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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