Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 A plan to see two colt teams introduced to the SPFL could be in place as early as next season. It’s understood reps from all 10 League Two teams met with celtic and Rangers’ development chiefs Chris McCart and Craig Mulholland last weekend to discuss a two-year pilot scheme. And although the move would require a vote and majority approval from all 42 league clubs, MailSport believes at least seven of the 10 who’ll be directly affected by the plan have given their encouragement. Rangers development chief Craig Mulholland READ MORE Rangers stun Bayern Munich as development side earn impressive win against German heavyweights U-19s MailSport - who broke the news of the initial moves to broker a deal as part of Project Brave 13 months ago - has obtained a copy of the latest proposal aimed at kicking off in the 2018/19 season. The plan involves a two-year trial period which would see League Two grow to a 12-team set-up but: Neither team would be allowed to win promotion or be relegated during the pilot. If they finished top or bottom or in any of the play-off places, the senior team in the next place down would automatically take that spot. Neither side would benefit financially from the distribution of funds to the league. The colt teams involved in the pilot project will also guarantee the purchase of a minimum of 250 tickets for each of its away fixtures at £10 per ticket, going each team, they claim, a £15,000 lift each season. The full details of the fixture set-up with a 12-team division have yet to be decided. There is a favoured model of a 33-game schedule, although an alternative of creating a Premiership-style split and 38 games is an option. There is also an offer for both colt teams to play all games away from home, although it's expected both would have to register full league-compliant grounds. Cappielow could be the home of a celtic colt team (Image: SNS Group) READ MORE Rangers and celtic colt teams free to join SPFL but they won’t be allowed to rise any higher than League One MailSport revealed last June celtic had already made moves to make Cappielow their home away from home if the plan ever made it off the drawing board. Teams would have to name a squad at the start of the season - effectively an under-21 squad with two permanent overage players - and players would not be allowed to migrate from the parent club’s top team except in transfer windows. League sources were keen to stress last night that the plan is not limited to celtic and Rangers’ set-ups, despite the pair being front and centre of the bid to persuade clubs of its benefits. It's also understood, however, that others who have expressed an interest previously - Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs - may be interested in the long term but aren’t ready to take up a place as early as the summer, paving the way for the two Glasgow clubs. Aberdeen are among the teams also said to be considering the move An SPFL source said: “Historically there have always been objections to this but what we need to understand now is this isn’t the same debate we’re having - this is about development of our young players, it’s not about Rangers and celtic leaving legacy teams behind as they seek to move on. “So as this goes through the approval process, if it achieves support, other Premiership teams may yet want to be involved.” MailSport understands the plan is to work their way up through the leagues with their discussions before calling an egm vote. Any change would require the approval of 11 of the 12 Premiership clubs and 23 of the 30 (75 per cent) lower league clubs. One League Two source who attended the meeting last weekend told us: “There were fewer objections than I’ve heard previously because Craig and Chris presented a strong case for why it would help in terms of the overall development strategy which Project Brave has been addressing. And it would be financially beneficial to a degree as well. “But there are still a lot of questions to be answered, not least what would happen in year three. As usual with these things, we’re getting bits of the story but it would have been more helpful to hear it all and to have the SFA there as part of the discussion. “The fact it was just Rangers and celtic doesn’t help the perception that it’s the greater good being served, no matter how convincing the case they’re putting is.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,426 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Look A TTHE Waay we gotta gide what we're doin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDavidCooper 2,505 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Would love this to happen because kids playing kids teaches you nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,426 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The colt teams involved in the pilot project will also guarantee the purchase of a minimum of 250 tickets for each of its away fixtures at £10 per ticket, going each team, they claim, a £15,000 lift each season. Elgin away ole ole Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Long overdue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Gustav said: The colt teams involved in the pilot project will also guarantee the purchase of a minimum of 250 tickets for each of its away fixtures at £10 per ticket, going each team, they claim, a £15,000 lift each season. Elgin away ole ole You just know PC Plod is going to have something to say about 2 sets of Rangers fans travelling to away games on the same weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Good idea and would develop the players but I expect the teams will vote against it. Unfortunately in Scotland anything appearing to be progress is treated suspiciously. The club's will be worried about their promotion places in year 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Exciting although i can see it being completed dominated by celtic given their huge financial resources at that level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 17,977 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Pretty shit that the players can't move between the teams except from transfer windows, would essentially make it harder to move to the first team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,102 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said: Pretty shit that the players can't move between the teams except from transfer windows, would essentially make it harder to move to the first team It would, in essence. If you look at our first team squad now though, those players who are ready to step up are registered. I wouldn’t want us to ever be in the position we were last season where our squad was so thin/shit we had to call up the likes of Beerman and Wilson. Although they did ok, certainly not the standard we need to be winning leagues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 17,977 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Leeds_Bear said: It would, in essence. If you look at our first team squad now though, those players who are ready to step up are registered. I wouldn’t want us to ever be in the position we were last season where our squad was so thin/shit we had to call up the likes of Beerman and Wilson. Although they did ok, certainly not the standard we need to be winning leagues. Yea you are right but the likes of mcrory wouldn't of got a chance and would be playing in league 2, come a transfer window what do you do? Promote a youth who then might not get a game and goes 6 months without barely kicking a ball or buy a player for the position you require. Also what do we do with players returning from injury needing game time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxric72 199 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 They certainly like our blue pound. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theulstervolunteer 1,859 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: Exciting although i can see it being completed dominated by celtic given their huge financial resources at that level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Theulstervolunteer said: They turn over 4 times that of their nearest rival and have a bigger youth budget than most lower league Scottish clubs. No fishing today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theulstervolunteer 1,859 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: They turn over 4 times that of their nearest rival and have a bugger youth budget than most lower league Scottish clubs. No fishing today. True they do this.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Pal 5,568 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 58 minutes ago, Gustav said: The colt teams involved in the pilot project will also guarantee the purchase of a minimum of 250 tickets for each of its away fixtures at £10 per ticket, going each team, they claim, a £15,000 lift each season. Elgin away ole ole There would be more than enough Bears in Elgin and local area to take the 250 no bother. Same with all the other towns with a League 2 club. What Interests me is the prospect of the games against the junior filth. Where would those be played,and would a crowd be allowed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,700 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: They turn over 4 times that of their nearest rival and have a bugger youth budget than most lower league Scottish clubs. No fishing today. If Carlsberg did Freudian slips..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Take the guaranteed 2500 quid out of this and the teams wouldnt be interested. Money has ruined football indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,824 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ibroxric72 said: They certainly like our blue pound. Yep, we guarantee a certain amount of tickets, waive rights to any prize money, waive rights to promotion from league 2. The idea in essence is a good one and gives the young lads proper competitive game time, but as usual Scottish football sees a cash cow in our fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Interesting. Given the introduction of the lowland league, I would have thought they would have to start there rather than at the league two level. There is a good chance that if we go back into admin, the colt team could be higher up the league than us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy500 463 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'd be happier if the team had a bit more freedom to move around in the lower leagues. Perhaps they wouldn't be allowed to be relegated from League 2 or promoted from the Championship. Gives the boys a bit more to play for. League 2 isn't a great level and we'd probably have guys in the middle who we end up wanting to loan out to Championship teams instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, andy500 said: I'd be happier if the team had a bit more freedom to move around in the lower leagues. Perhaps they wouldn't be allowed to be relegated from League 2 or promoted from the Championship. Gives the boys a bit more to play for. League 2 isn't a great level and we'd probably have guys in the middle who we end up wanting to loan out to Championship teams instead. You’ll probably find that’s what will happen after the 2 year pilot period. Ajax, Benfica etc all very good at producing players and part of that is that they have B teams in the lower league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,148 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Waste of time playing in league 2 imo,would rather loan the promising ones out,they'll learn more in the development games against the foreign sides than playing these hammer throwers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,992 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 A new new Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 59 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: They turn over 4 times that of their nearest rival and have a bugger youth budget than most lower league Scottish clubs. No fishing today. They got beat 3-1 off Annan athletic in this years challenge cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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