BridgeIsBlue 66,790 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 centre backs McCrorie Tavernier Docherty/Goss Murphy Dorrans Morelos Cummings Currently we play a system where we have two players that are encouraged to get forward as much as possible, but when required to defend the both of them are way below par. We lost that game yesterday because of a powerpuff midfield that were completely ran over. 3-5-2 is incredibly flexible as at any given time during a match we could switch to 4-4-2,4-5-1 or even 4-3-3 depending on the nature of the game being played. It gives us the benefit of not being swamped in midfield, and also sees us playing with two strikers up front which we should be doing 90% of the time anyway. So why wouldn't it work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,094 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: 3 centre backs McCrorie Tavernier Docherty Goss Murphy Dorrans Morelos Cummings Currently we play a system where we have two players that are encouraged to get forward as much as possible, but when required to defend the both of them are way below par. We lost that game yesterday because of a powerpuff midfield that were completely ran over. 3-5-2 is incredibly flexible as at any given time during a match we could switch to 4-4-2,4-5-1 or even 4-3-3 depending on the nature of the game being played. It gives us the benefit of not being swamped in midfield, and also sees us playing with two strikers up front which we should be playing with 90% of the time anyway. So why wouldn't it work? Thing is a decent manager should be able to change formations on the fly during the game. The team u posted could easily start out with yesterday's formation and adapt to any formation you mentioned If the manager had the tactical know how to do so. Going 3-5-2 may well be the best formation for our players unfortunately we can't or won't adapt during the game to suit accordingly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,457 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: 3 centre backs McCrorie Tavernier Docherty Goss Murphy Dorrans Morelos Cummings Currently we play a system where we have two players that are encouraged to get forward as much as possible, but when required to defend the both of them are way below par. We lost that game yesterday because of a powerpuff midfield that were completely ran over. 3-5-2 is incredibly flexible as at any given time during a match we could switch to 4-4-2,4-5-1 or even 4-3-3 depending on the nature of the game being played. It gives us the benefit of not being swamped in midfield, and also sees us playing with two strikers up front which we should be playing with 90% of the time anyway. So why wouldn't it work? We not going to have a keeper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,790 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, rabc10000 said: Thing is a decent manager should be able to change formations on the fly during the game. The team u posted could easily start out with yesterday's formation and adapt to any formation you mentioned If the manager had the tactical know how to do so. Going 3-5-2 may well be the best formation for our players unfortunately we can't or won't adapt during the game to suit accordingly I admit we can't play it atm because McCrorie and Dorrans are still injured but nearing a return. It's something we should look at when they return. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: McCrorie Alves Bates Tavernier Docherty Dorrans John Murphy Morelos Cummings Currently we play a system where we have two players that are encouraged to get forward as much as possible, but when required to defend the both of them are way below par. We lost that game yesterday because of a powerpuff midfield that were completely ran over. 3-5-2 is incredibly flexible as at any given time during a match we could switch to 4-4-2,4-5-1 or even 4-3-3 depending on the nature of the game being played. It gives us the benefit of not being swamped in midfield, and also sees us playing with two strikers up front which we should be playing with 90% of the time anyway. So why wouldn't it work? Would rather see this when everyone’s fit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,785 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Playing with an extra man might actually help us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 12,184 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 You've got too many players in that lineup Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,785 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Foderingham Bates Martin someone from academy Tav Docherty Holt Someone from academy Murphy Windass Cummings. This for Tuesday and Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I think we need to do something like this in all honesty as you seen again yesterday the full backs missing when Hibs hit the flanks and we were bullied in midfield again so we need to get a grip on they areas so 5 in midfield with a good balance is essential as is 2 playing up front in a partnership that is actually my main gripe with Murty the fact he’s waxed lyrical about Cummings but never plays him playing the formation like we do on days like yesterday when Hibs set up that way leaves Morelos isolated we need a 2 man strikeforce without question only thing though I’d have McCrorie in the middle of midfield not defence we need his presence in there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,790 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, MasterD said: We not going to have a keeper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 As much as I like the 3-5-2 I don't think we could pull it off. Most teams that play a 3-5-2 have two players with real dig in front of the defence. We don't have those type of players right now and we can't seem to win the midfield battles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,790 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Playing with an extra man might actually help us. 7 minutes ago, Broxi said: You've got too many players in that lineup My misteak Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 12,184 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: My misteak oh dear Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,790 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Siwel said: Would rather see this when everyone’s fit Only thing I would change with yours is Murphy on the left and Dorrans playing behind the two strikers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,785 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: My misteak Embrasssing yourself mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,790 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Broxi said: oh dear 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: Embrasssing yourself mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,785 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Wanted a 3-5-2 for ages. The 4-3-3 we play just isn’t working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Only thing I would change with yours is Murphy on the left and Dorrans playing behind the two strikers. Think Murphy would do better down the middle so he doesn’t need to worry about tracking back and not sure how effective he’d be as a wingback, don’t think Dorrans is an attacking midfielder either imo he’s better dictating play from deep with someone like Docherty next to him doing his running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: Wanted a 3-5-2 for ages. The 4-3-3 we play just isn’t working. We don’t play a 433 we play a 4231 or a 4411 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,094 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Siwel said: We don’t play a 433 we play a 4231 or a 4411 It's a 4-5-1 no matter how you word it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Siwel said: We don’t play a 433 we play a 4231 or a 4411 You can mix up the numbers all you want. We don’t play with 3 midfielders in the middle of the pitch. Yesterday we had Goss and Holt, Candieas and Murphy play wide and never tuck in and Windass plays more as a front man When we come up against a team that does play a 4-2-3-1 they run over the top of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,790 Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, Siwel said: Think Murphy would do better down the middle so he doesn’t need to worry about tracking back and not sure how effective he’d be as a wingback, don’t think Dorrans is an attacking midfielder either imo he’s better dictating play from deep with someone like Docherty next to him doing his running. Disagree with Dorrans, he's got goals in him and would be wasteful if we continued to play him in centre midfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I think we need to take one game at a time. Yesterday was a day when we needed to pack the midfield and sit deep to counter their pace. We have options, lets use them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd true bluenose 86 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Embrasssing yourself mate Embarrassing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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