BridgeIsBlue 66,818 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1:26 “I said at half time, the front four are winning the game, so let’s play from a better structure. I thought Greg Docherty was far better in the second half, but he needs to tidy up with the ball. “And, low and behold, we get five goals, we get carried away and think we will just keep going and attack from anywhere. “With five minutes to go, I have nearly eight people in their half attacking, and it’s not on. It’s not professional, it’s not respectful to our opponent and it’s not the way I will operate." Forgive me if I'm reading that the wrong way, but this is alluding to something I've been saying all season and it is that we show teams in this country far too much respect where it is not warranted. Eighteen minutes to go we were winning 5-2 and should've been on the hunt for more goals, but he doesn't freshen things up with subs until the last ten minutes, then says that in his post match interview... That respect patter can honestly take a flying focus to itself, put teams to the sword and batter them when we're able to, should've scored at least seven or eight yesterday but in Murty's eyes that wouldn't have been professional supposedly. Like I said I hope I'm looking at it wrong but if he genuinely thinks that then it's a bit worrying tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,912 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: 1:26 “I said at half time, the front four are winning the game, so let’s play from a better structure. I thought Greg Docherty was far better in the second half, but he needs to tidy up with the ball. “And, low and behold, we get five goals, we get carried away and think we will just keep going and attack from anywhere. “With five minutes to go, I have nearly eight people in their half attacking, and it’s not on. It’s not professional, it’s not respectful to our opponent and it’s not the way I will operate." Forgive me if I'm reading that the wrong way, but this is alluding to something I've been saying all season and it is that we show teams in this country far too much respect where it is not warranted. Eighteen minutes to go we were winning 5-2 and should've been on the hunt for more goals, but he doesn't freshen things up with subs until the last ten minutes, then says that in his post match interview... That respect patter can honestly take a flying focus to itself, put teams to the sword and batter them when we're able to, should've scored at least seven or eight yesterday but in Murty's eyes that wouldn't have been professional supposedly. Like I said I hope I'm looking at it wrong but if he genuinely thinks that then it's a bit worrying tbh. Doesny work like that, Eric. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Sadly he's getting into the dignified pish that all Rangers managers seem to inherit ... it was a pet hate of mine when Smith was the manager too the respect shown to others. Strange comment from him. I will say that in spite of that comment he has a bit of a point regarding 8 in the Hamilton half attacking when we were 5-2 ... coupled with Docherty's passing (that he mentioned) we could run a risk of over-commiting when we don't have to and risk being exposed and them getting right back into the game. Maybe that's being overly cautious but I can see the rationale behind it. But yes the respect patter is a lot of pish. We should respect no-cunt in Scottish football ... if he doesn't want 8 men in their half attacking for a legitimate football reason like I mentioned that's cool but not because of respecting an opponent so much you don't want to hurt them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,988 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 He should have brought subs on earlier. The players stopped bothering after the 5th goal and started getting sloppy again thinking the game was over. Cummings was raging when he came on because of the lack of effort to go for more goals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,818 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Sadly he's getting into the dignified pish that all Rangers managers seem to inherit ... it was a pet hate of mine when Smith was the manager too the respect shown to others. Strange comment from him. I will say that in spite of that comment he has a bit of a point regarding 8 in the Hamilton half attacking when we were 5-2 ... coupled with Docherty's passing (that he mentioned) we could run a risk of over-commiting when we don't have to and risk being exposed and them getting right back into the game. Maybe that's being overly cautious but I can see the rationale behind it. But yes the respect patter is a lot of pish. We should respect no-cunt in Scottish football ... if he doesn't want 8 men in their half attacking for a legitimate football reason like I mentioned that's cool but not because of respecting an opponent so much you don't want to hurt them. Same with that daft message they put out over the speakers before games at Ibrox. "Rangers promote friendship throughout football" etc. Sickening Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I dont know where he is going with the respect bit. Unprofessional maybe in terms of formation, but other teams can take the proverbial flying fck to themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,352 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Don't agree with showing anyone respect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The whole thing is confusing. Is he pissed off because 8 Rangers players were in the Hamilton half attacking with 5mins to go? Would he rather the team sat back and defended the lead? What has any of this got to do with disrespecting Hamilton? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I found that comment a bit strange myself. You should always be looking to score more goals and to kill teams off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,352 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: Same with that daft message they put out over the speakers before games at Ibrox. "Rangers promote friendship throughout football" etc. Sickening We don't though. it's all well and good the club saying shite like that but at the end of the day the support don't really promote friendship with other clubs support Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Same with that daft message they put out over the speakers before games at Ibrox. "Rangers promote friendship throughout football" etc. Sickening I'll be honest (and I'll get slagged) but sometimes I genuinely hate going to Ibrox. I love supporting the team but the match day experience I just don't enjoy myself ... faggy fan zones, that message on the speakers, shite teams bossing us and bullying us on the park, grassing hotlines, no atmosphere and whatever atmosphere there is it's really cringey wee songs like Jason Holt and Andy Halliday etc. Away games are great but Ibrox is just like the ultimate chore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,988 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 What clubs showed Rangers any respect in 2012 ?? What clubs show Rangers any respect now ?? I'd keep Murty away from the cameras and microphones. Mind you I'd keep him away from the manager's office as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,988 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: I'll be honest (and I'll get slagged) but sometimes I genuinely hate going to Ibrox. I love supporting the team but the match day experience I just don't enjoy myself ... faggy fan zones, that message on the speakers, shite teams bossing us and bullying us on the park, grassing hotlines, no atmosphere and whatever atmosphere there is it's really cringey wee songs like Jason Holt and Andy Halliday etc. Away games are great but Ibrox is just like the ultimate chore. Sit near to me at Ibrox and you won't get bored, deafened maybe but not bored. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,299 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I don't agree about showing respect but I think he's right when he says it's unprofessional, yes we need to make sure we put teams to the sword and go for more goals but equally players still need to perform their duties as if the game was 1-0. It's habit forming and the sign of a good, dominant side. See Man City. It's not Sunday League where everyone can go roaming forward without one eye on their defensive role, which is what he's highlighting here - professional teams should play at the same level and discipline whether it's 1-0, 3-0 or 8-0. Fuck the respect thing though, we've not been shown one iota of it in the last 6/7 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,912 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, K.A.I said: I'll be honest (and I'll get slagged) but sometimes I genuinely hate going to Ibrox. I love supporting the team but the match day experience I just don't enjoy myself ... faggy fan zones, that message on the speakers, shite teams bossing us and bullying us on the park, grassing hotlines, no atmosphere and whatever atmosphere there is it's really cringey wee songs like Jason Holt and Andy Halliday etc. Away games are great but Ibrox is just like the ultimate chore. Goal songs are brutal as well, fucking bits and pieces Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 61,284 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Very disappointing that Murty wants our players to show respect to any opposition team/players. He keeps giving me a riddie when he comes out with pish like that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,338 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 But for one short line of 6 words (which is the kind of comment that people are very sensitive to these days but I wouldn't get too hung up on because I don't think that's the crux of his beef) I can see where he's coming from and I like the intention. We were very loose at times and that could kill us in the future and has done in the past. It's a good thing to keep banging his drum about with this group. I think he's quite rightly trying to make sure people don't forget about things they need to be working on and never to let good habits waver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggarbear 32 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I think what he was meaning was that we had lost all our shape and were acting like it was a free for all. We could have been cought out with 8 guys up the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,818 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 If he genuinely wants to talk about respect in Scottish Football, let him read Deluded Brenda's comments regarding Tommy Wright after their game yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Bear 411 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The respect pish is utter nonsense but I can see his point 8 of them are not going to put the ball in the net, I think he was meaning they need to show more discipline and game savvy because we have lost a load of goals by piling forward and getting caught on the quick counter has happened to many times and needs nipped in the bud. Can get away with it when you have rattled in 5 but in the tighter games it costs you points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,299 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: 1:26 “I said at half time, the front four are winning the game, so let’s play from a better structure. I thought Greg Docherty was far better in the second half, but he needs to tidy up with the ball. “And, low and behold, we get five goals, we get carried away and think we will just keep going and attack from anywhere. “With five minutes to go, I have nearly eight people in their half attacking, and it’s not on. It’s not professional, it’s not respectful to our opponent and it’s not the way I will operate." Forgive me if I'm reading that the wrong way, but this is alluding to something I've been saying all season and it is that we show teams in this country far too much respect where it is not warranted. Eighteen minutes to go we were winning 5-2 and should've been on the hunt for more goals, but he doesn't freshen things up with subs until the last ten minutes, then says that in his post match interview... That respect patter can honestly take a flying focus to itself, put teams to the sword and batter them when we're able to, should've scored at least seven or eight yesterday but in Murty's eyes that wouldn't have been professional supposedly. Like I said I hope I'm looking at it wrong but if he genuinely thinks that then it's a bit worrying tbh. He hasn't said anything of the sort, he's not talking about not scoring as many as we can, he's talking about being professional regardless for the scoreline. We shouldn't have conceded another goal yesterday, regardless of whether it's a penalty or not they shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,299 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Boaby Bear said: The respect pish is utter nonsense but I can see his point 8 of them are not going to put the ball in the net, I think he was meaning they need to show more discipline and game savvy because we have lost a load of goals by piling forward and getting caught on the quick counter has happened to many times and needs nipped in the bud. Can get away with it when you have rattled in 5 but in the tighter games it costs you points. Exactly. It's been a habit of our play for nearly 3 seasons, being caught on the counter is how we concede the majority of our goals. Need to stop it happening regardless of how many we're leading by. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 36,807 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Na forget that man. I want us to murder teams on the pitch in every single game, I don’t give a fuck who they are. There shouldn’t be an ounce of respect shown towards one team in this league, absolutely none whatsoever so that comment has annoyed me a bit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,072 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It's not hard to comprehend people. He means its not respectful to Hamilton in terms of their ability to attack us if we get caught up the field, and getting the structure of the team right in terms of a balance between defence and attack. Alice's question prefaces his answer. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,393 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I respect everyones opinion on this thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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