Popular Post The Beast 9,197 Posted March 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2018 I wanted it to work with Murty, I really did. He's obviously a very decent guy and has bought into being a part of the ethos of the club. I do believe he is a very decent coach but there's many good coaches who don't cut it as a first team manager, unfortunately he is another example. I hope he goes back to working with the youth setup after all this as I do think he is an asset. The most obvious thing about the whole situation is that he's been set up as a patsy by this corrupt and inept board and it's incompetent CEO and management team. It's a huge frustration that so many of the rank and file of our support cannot see what seems blindingly obvious that King and his cronies are bad news and they are failing on just about every measurable level. I don't blame Murty, I have no doubt that the man is doing everything within his power to do the best for the club. The blame lies with those that put him in a position he was unqualified and unsuitable for. And they did this to deflect criticism from themselves and likely to save a few bucks at the same time. Garnock Blue, Bad Robot, Bobby Hume and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 There's no point in him moving aside right now. We don't need a caretaker for the caretaker manager. We need a real manager. Installing one at the end of the season will be fine by me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorWhitey 60 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Nice guy, got the best interests of the Club at heart. Not tough enough though. Naive with formations and tactics and subs. Can't see that Alves is shite but goes on his experience and picks him. I do believe there is a basis of a good team there. They just need set up right. Alves, Dorrans, tav, windass, foderingham, morelos should be punted asap Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Ibroxholm said: I’m not arguing Murty should stay on as manager next season, however unless we have a long term replacement ready to step in immediately there is no point taking an immediate decision. We don’t need another caretaker manager, we need the correct permanent appointment to be made be it now or in the summer. Tbh mate if we got rid tonight it wouldn’t be knee jerk as it’s been needing to happen for 3/4 weeks I would say the decision has actually been delayed somewhat. I agree with WGOH 100% get someone experienced in for mon/tue let them assess the squad and take it from there. We can still finish second and win the cup but unfortunately I don’t think that’s the case under Murty the guy is really struggling and way out his depth. There’s not 1 person who at the start didn’t want him to do well but the guy is starting to seriously piss folk off. His best isn’t good enough for a club like ours. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JentleJames 199 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I still think the players are playing for him, the second half showed that today, they were never playing for Caixinha. Ovbiously the general feeling just now is gut wrenching disappointment but there’s no real alternative to him seeing out the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueoysterbar 19,539 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I think it would be shite to sack Murty from the club completely. It's not his fault that he's been sold a job he can't do, he simply doesn't have the experience or the knowledge. People talk about development levels of people in jobs, I reckon GM is at the first stage. Unconsciously unaware, doesn't know what it is he doesn't know because he's that wet behind the ears. I'd like to see a strong experienced appointment for manager, a decent assistant and GM as a first team coach. The guy has something and I think he deserves the chance to be coached and educated properly. ZZed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupret 223 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 As one bear said earlier today, the man is a a turtle a zip sucker, he is out of his depth, plus the board fucked it up yet again with Jimmy Nichol no2, He has to go ... and soon, myself Id take Bllic and lets have a Gers coach no2, dare I say Kenny.or anyone It requires fixing pronto. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said: I think it would be shite to sack Murty from the club completely. It's not his fault that he's been sold a job he can't do, he simply doesn't have the experience or the knowledge. People talk about development levels of people in jobs, I reckon GM is at the first stage. Unconsciously unaware, doesn't know what it is he doesn't know because he's that wet behind the ears. I'd like to see a strong experienced appointment for manager, a decent assistant and GM as a first team coach. The guy has something and I think he deserves the chance to be coached and educated properly. I agree, I would like Murty to stay at Rangers in a coaching capacity. He must have thought he was up to the challenge of managing Rangers but he must now know he is not. The board have left him out to dry but they should do the right thing after the seasons ended; have a chat with him, make him an assistant/coach and bring in someone who is a proven winner. I reckon Murty will be left in charge until the season is over as it is simpler for the board. theblueoysterbar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupret 223 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, ZZed said: I agree, I would like Murty to stay at Rangers in a coaching capacity. He must have thought he was up to the challenge of managing Rangers but he must now know he is not. The board have left him out to dry but they should do the right thing after the seasons ended; have a chat with him, make him an assistant/coach and bring in someone who is a proven winner. I reckon Murty will be left in charge until the season is over as it is simpler for the board. Nah a nice guy, speaks really great with the press, but after the old firm game and seeing his tactical awareness, in other games. He has to go and soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rupret said: Nah a nice guy, speaks really great with the press, but after the old firm game and seeing his tactical awareness, in other games. He has to go and soon. I know what you mean but I think the board will do what suits them the best and I think that means leaving Murty in charge. They can then make a big song and dance about getting someone else in during the summer to help with the season ticket sales. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueoysterbar 19,539 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Rupret said: Nah a nice guy, speaks really great with the press, but after the old firm game and seeing his tactical awareness, in other games. He has to go and soon. Do you not think the club owes him a bit of loyalty for what he's done? You can say, "Aye he fucked this up and fucks that up all the time." It's not his fault, it's the board's fault. Murty was stuck into a job he can't do by a board that refuses to open its wallet. For a guy of his experience he has at times shown a bit of dig and character. I'll say it again, I think he deserves a junior position in coaching the first team and some coaching and education himself from an experienced manager. And Mark Allen too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupret 223 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 In just sad mate.,was really full of optimism last month, three results in, and sigh, back to square one. Maybe overacting, but i want a proper manager. Should have been 9/9 points. theblueoysterbar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueoysterbar 19,539 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, Rupret said: In just sad mate.,was really full of optimism last month, three results in, and sigh, back to square one. Maybe overacting, but i want a proper manager. Feel your pain mate, who doesn't. Was thinking, on balance we probably have a better squad than we've had for a good while... hoping that there will be a bit of a budget from the ST money for a decent manager. But then you realise we're limited again because any decent manager would want the money to bring in his own players. It's shite this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 18 hours ago, WGOH said: Sack him as manager tonight, would like to see him stay in some capacity, but he is not a manager, never mind a Rangers manager. Dont care who we bring in, just do something. Also please don’t reply if you disagree x Don’t reply if you disagree its my way or the highway On A forum!!! Murty must stay! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid2103 285 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Never been a fan, has cost us too many points with his inability to make effective changes in a game. Not saying the players escape the criticism, not by a long shot, but he's the one keeping players who are having no impact on the pitch for 90 minutes. Have absolutely no idea who the next manager is going to be, would be very underwhelmed if we stayed with Murty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,275 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 9 hours ago, bluewhitevanman said: Tbh mate if we got rid tonight it wouldn’t be knee jerk as it’s been needing to happen for 3/4 weeks I would say the decision has actually been delayed somewhat. I agree with WGOH 100% get someone experienced in for mon/tue let them assess the squad and take it from there. We can still finish second and win the cup but unfortunately I don’t think that’s the case under Murty the guy is really struggling and way out his depth. There’s not 1 person who at the start didn’t want him to do well but the guy is starting to seriously piss folk off. His best isn’t good enough for a club like ours. Bring in Stuart McCall then? As I said in my earlier posts, it is knee jerk if we demote Murty without the right candidate being available and ready to immediately step in. For all Murty’s shortcomings, I’d rather we just went with him the end of season rather than flap about with another caretaker while we try the find a decent manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid2103 285 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Ibroxholm said: Bring in Stuart McCall then? As I said in my earlier posts, it is knee jerk if we demote Murty without the right candidate being available and ready to immediately step in. For all Murty’s shortcomings, I’d rather we just went with him the end of season rather than flap about with another caretaker while we try the find a decent manager. That's how we ended up with Murty in the first place, despite everyone knowing Pedro was on his way out. Still can't believe they didn't have someone ready to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 He's worked out how I thought he would too big a job for an inexperienced man I would not even let him teach the Youths he does not have the mentality to instill a winning mentality in Young players. Sid2103 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 If ever there was an example of why being staunch isn't all that's required murty is it. This has to be taken into acount when looking for a replacement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,624 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, orangecountry said: If ever there was an example of why being staunch isn't all that's required murty is it. This has to be taken into acount when looking for a replacement. You think Murty epitomizes staunch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: You think Murty epitomizes staunch? I think he's as clear as an example as possible. How do you measure staunchness? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,624 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, orangecountry said: I think he's as clear as an example as possible. How do you measure staunchness? What Rangers background does he have that makes him staunch? How long has he been a Rangers man? How have you measured staunchness? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,735 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Disgrace he's still manager. Spineless board Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: What Rangers background does he have that makes him staunch? How long has he been a Rangers man? How have you measured staunchness? You seriously doubt that guy loves this club? Shite manager but his commitment to us is not in doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,624 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, orangecountry said: You seriously doubt that guy loves this club? Shite manager but his commitment to us is not in doubt. I don't think his commitment is in doubt, think he loves us now. Don't think we've always been in his blood, don't think he grew up wearing our jersey or coming to games, don't think it's anything more than professionalism and him being overwhelmed by the size and scale of the club. Ask me to name staunch Rangers men and Murty doesn't spring to mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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