Blue_Devil 350 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I think we need to take a step back. Reflect, and in the words of Murty "let the rawness pass". If the Ginger Maldini had made a clean block on Rogic, rather than getting injured in the 3-2 game, the outcome could have been very different in that game, and subsequent games where the defence has looked powder puff without Bates. We could still move within 7 points of celtic next week, and with a break of the ball as described above, it could have been a genuine title race. Yes, even with a month or so of the title race to go we could have made something of it. We are not that bad (second with a far better goal difference than other challengers), and they are not that good (far from invincible this season). Murty cannot remain as manager, he appears to have lost the dressing room and stadium when he didn't make changes to counter Rodgers when celtic were reduced to 10 men. Since that point he has looked like a man that is second guessing himself, and I fear Halliday's substitution in the 4-0 games was based on this perception and the public comments surrounding it. Through this all, he conducted himself with bravery and dignity; he has never hidden. If he wins the 3-2 game, and it was close, he would almost certainly be the fans and pundits choice for the job. He was on a high, and that would have taken him higher. He is an asset to the club and we must retain him in some capacity, he could well be a future Rangers manager. In the short term we need someone to take the heat, that can manage the board and the fans as well as the players. We need to give him the money to create an iron curtain defence and one player that can add real quality middle to front. But we are not far away. Underneath the first team the youth structure has been overhauled, and if it is as good as it looks it should start to bear fruit in 2-3 years. To allow it to flourish we must be patient as fans....but we need to stop TIAR. Overall, we are not far away but the margins are fine. Now is the time for calm resolve and determination, not short term hysteria. On that, the board are right. Tin. Hat. On. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kaiser1041 9,088 Posted April 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2018 Stopped reading at ginger Maldini ? Gascoigne8, Bruno's Manbun, VentyFour and 12 others 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 minute ago, kaiser1041 said: Stopped reading at ginger Maldini ? Same. Everybody knows he's the ginger Ramos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Step away from the keyboard OP, and phone for help immediately. cascadeshrimp and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted April 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2018 Aye but if yir aunty had baws she’d be your uncle orange&blue92, ForeverAndEver, RD.1872 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC16 226 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 And you wonder why the fans dont seem to be united at times. One result doesnt change the fact we are a fuckin shambles from top to bottom. Bears r us, Courtyard Bear, jintybear and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Don’t know why I noticed it more today (maybe being sober) but folk at Ibrox will clap any amount of average/pish football HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEPPS BOY 73,805 Posted April 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2018 Bit defeatist OP. When we win league at Easter Road we’ll all look back and laugh at this season.. HG5, rbt1548, Blue_Devil and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Devil 350 Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, RFC16 said: And you wonder why the fans dont seem to be united at times. One result doesnt change the fact we are a fuckin shambles from top to bottom. The point is we are not. We are second on merit and but for one result could be in a genuine title race. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Can we stop with this pish that we are only "2 or 3 players away from challenging". People say that like the beasts won't be recruiting players this summer ffs. We are miles away, we can't go on a decent run of wins and our old firm results have been embarrassing. HG5 and sassaaaa 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 At the start of the season improvement meant reducing the gap at the top. 37 last season 10 at present. Better but not where we need to be and board, management and players all need to ask themselves some serious questions about whether they have what is needed to take the next step forward. The thing that hurts us most is our inability to roll our sleaves up when it matters and deliver a win against them. Negri's lovechild, Guardian and Blue_Devil 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,447 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Sick of people saying if we had done this and that. We are 4 games from the end of a season where we have massively underperformed. There’s a point where you have to realise that the reason why we come out worse off in these fine margins is because we aren’t good enough either in footballing ability or mental strength. Bluekev, HG5, Amokachi and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakes Pal 5,569 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Bit defeatist OP. When we win league at Easter Road we’ll all look back and laugh at this season.. Seriously good shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 790 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 In my opinion, we’re not that bad (I know it seems daft saying that after last week) but that 2-3 game killed us. I know it’s all ifs and buts but football often has big results from fine margins and if we’d even drawn that game I think it would’ve set us up for an interesting final few games. I don’t think Murty is the man to take us forward but I don’t think our team is, on paper, that bad. Get rid of a few who aren’t pulling their weight (Windass for example) and replace them with (to use a Caixhinha term) 7/10 players and get a couple of big solid CH’s (I’d keep Alves) and I think you’d see a far different outcome. I also think we need a clinical goal scorer. Morelos is our top scorer and puts in a shift but he’s missed too many important chances to be considered a finisher. Am I right in thinking that we have the best goals for record in the league? You don’t get that if you’re shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,624 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Drugs are for mugs OP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,310 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said: I think we need to take a step back. Reflect, and in the words of Murty "let the rawness pass". If the Ginger Maldini had made a clean block on Rogic, rather than getting injured in the 3-2 game, the outcome could have been very different in that game, and subsequent games where the defence has looked powder puff without Bates. We could still move within 7 points of celtic next week, and with a break of the ball as described above, it could have been a genuine title race. Yes, even with a month or so of the title race to go we could have made something of it. We are not that bad (second with a far better goal difference than other challengers), and they are not that good (far from invincible this season). Murty cannot remain as manager, he appears to have lost the dressing room and stadium when he didn't make changes to counter Rodgers when celtic were reduced to 10 men. Since that point he has looked like a man that is second guessing himself, and I fear Halliday's substitution in the 4-0 games was based on this perception and the public comments surrounding it. Through this all, he conducted himself with bravery and dignity; he has never hidden. If he wins the 3-2 game, and it was close, he would almost certainly be the fans and pundits choice for the job. He was on a high, and that would have taken him higher. He is an asset to the club and we must retain him in some capacity, he could well be a future Rangers manager. In the short term we need someone to take the heat, that can manage the board and the fans as well as the players. We need to give him the money to create an iron curtain defence and one player that can add real quality middle to front. But we are not far away. Underneath the first team the youth structure has been overhauled, and if it is as good as it looks it should start to bear fruit in 2-3 years. To allow it to flourish we must be patient as fans....but we need to stop TIAR. Overall, we are not far away but the margins are fine. Now is the time for calm resolve and determination, not short term hysteria. On that, the board are right. Tin. Hat. On. Coulda woulda shoulda You see these type of posts from fans of all clubs If we'd done this or done that we'd be closer, if the sheep could've beaten us and the them at least once each this season they'd be 6 clear of us and only a point behind them, if TLBs team won 5 of the 11 games they've drawn this year they'd be 10 points better off and if the tims had been bothered to get out of 2nd gear for most of the season they would've won plenty of those shitey games they dropped points in. Can totally understand looking at it from a Rangers prespective but it's futile and disingenuous, painting that kind of picture totally undermines the complete overhaul that we actually need. Waggy1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,580 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 We are a winning mentality short of being Rangers class. Simple as that. Our manager and players are powderpuff. They were actual scared of the scum last week. Actual scared. Wtf. Big streak of yellow where their spine should be and it is typified by Josh Windass but by no means is he the only offender. Bad Robot, SeparateEntityMyArse, gmcf and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Blue_Devil said: The point is we are not. We are second on merit and but for one result could be in a genuine title race. We are fucking awful and that first 45 mins today would get football stopped. If we had won all our home games we would be champions but we didn’t because we have a team full of spineless cunts. Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: Can we stop with this pish that we are only "2 or 3 players away from challenging". People say that like the beasts won't be recruiting players this summer ffs. We are miles away, we can't go on a decent run of wins and our old firm results have been embarrassing. Even IF we get a new manager, how do we change without the money needed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThenNowForever 232 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Little improvement from last season. We are 2 points off last seasons total of 67 and we will not even match the points total Aberdeen had of 76. Yes, there are 12 points to play for but I will be surprised if we mange 6. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 These threads are deluded beyond belief .. if so and so happened then it would be different ... what about if Dembele buried the 2 good chances before Bates failed to do something we are shit have a shit manager, shit players and owners and directors that don’t give a fuck thats all the reality anyone needs otherwise continue living in the trees with your head in the clouds 35 Yard Dangerman, Malvern and Tiger Shaw 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 You should really stay on the meds Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, K.A.I said: These threads are deluded beyond belief .. if so and so happened then it would be different ... what about if Dembele buried the 2 good chances before Bates failed to do something we are shit have a shit manager, shit players and owners and directors that don’t give a fuck thats all the reality anyone needs otherwise continue living in the trees with your head in the clouds With that, only way I see it changing is with new owners, unless you believe this board will step up to the plate. If there are no new owners on the horizon, it's more of the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said: With that, only way I see it changing is with new owners, unless you believe this board will step up to the plate. If there are no new owners on the horizon, it's more of the same. Nothing will change. An indication would have been AJ being removed for his comments, the fact he’s not been says to me they don’t see an issue and even agree with what he said - so yes, more of the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 We're horrendous, we stumbled upon an opportunity for a challenge when the tarriers had an awful run yet bottled it completely and now in a scrape for 2nd, 3rd or 4th I don't see how the current situation can be considered anything other than an unmitigated disaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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