Scottyarf37 963 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 This is how bad the situation is, pass marks for just trying Like a 10th place medal for the special kids Complete disaster. Another full rebuild, Rookie manager, no transfer fees in for anyone. Paying off huge salaries and contracts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,915 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 The wee guy never shys away which will always have him favourable with the fans but as mentioned, not quite Rangers standard (if that’s even a thing anymore) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,340 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Think I’ve said before, he gives everything and cleans up quite well but has never ever had that killer pass or decent shot to be a top midfielder. He gives his all and tries his absolute best but his best is just nowhere near good enough for where we need to be. It’s thanks but find yourself a new club in the summer, but I wouldn’t be walking away from a bumper contract till 2020 either Escobar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,790 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 7 hours ago, TMB said: Lacks the physicality to be part of our midfield next season. Holt, Halliday, and Winass, as a midfield 3 are one of the key reasons we've failed at any attempt to play a 4-3-3 over the last few years. They lack ability, physicality, and Windass just can't be arsed defending. Throw guys like Kranjcar, Barrie McKay, and Waghorn in there and it's no wonder our midfield was overrun. I do think Candeais and Murphy are a step in the right direction. Certainly improvements on McKay and Waghorn in those wide areas. However, the midfield 3 need to be looked at and fixed once and for all. We need players with physicality and who are very competitive by nature to ensure we win those midfield battles next season. Candeias and Murphy are absolutely nowhere near good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,790 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 He can walk off that park and say he left everything out there yesterday. Not many others , if any, can say that. five stars, gsa and BridgeIsBlue 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,658 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Can we stop with this nonsense about Holt being a trier. He’s fucking bang average verging on shite. Should be leaving this summer with many of the other imposters. Can’t believe I’m seeing people try to excuse him from the rest of the teams performance. KeyserSoze and jackg93 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeDontDoWalkingAway1872 303 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Candeias and Murphy are absolutely nowhere near good enough. Candelas no, Murphy yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,520 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 We are clutching at straws saying he’s done well he hasn’t, he’s not good enough and is easily beat. He does care though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Candeias and Murphy are absolutely nowhere near good enough. Candeias has 10 assists and 6 goals for the season. Since Murphy joined in January he's had 5 assists and 4 goals. As wingers go they're more than good enough for our league. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I’d keep him for next season as a squad player as he can come in and do a job when required but not as a first team player Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 He plays to the best of his ability and gives his all but he is not of the level we require, that's not his fault. If the rest of the team had made the same efforts as him then things would not be as bad. He cost 50k and has given us value and more for that . He physically just is not strong enough. It will be time at the end of the season to thank him for his efforts but let him go. I do think that he will at least try for the remainder of the season unlike the majority of our team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 3,986 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Holt is a player I cannot fault for commitment and effort. Gives 100% every time he is on the park. He probably knows his own limitations but it has never stopped him from putting a shift unlike a lot of others. Would genuinely be okay with keeping him as a squad player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 8 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: Candeias is one of the biggest shitebags in that team, and can fuck off whenever he likes horrible cunt of a guy Yours is the minority opinion. Candeias has been excellent this season and I was glad to see him get that new contract. Looking forward to seeing him next season under a better manager surrounded by better players. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,790 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, TMB said: Candeias has 10 assists and 6 goals for the season. Since Murphy joined in January he's had 5 assists and 4 goals. As wingers go they're more than good enough for our league. Hibs and the tarrier games both, more so Murphy, have been completely non existent.( i know candeias scored a goal) if we’re getting Murphy for 800k as was originally reported then mibbe but 2 million, no chance. get ball, cut back or inside. repeat,repeat,repeat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said: Hibs and the tarrier games both, more so Murphy, have been completely non existent.( i know candeias scored a goal) if we’re getting Murphy for 800k as was originally reported then mibbe but 2 million, no chance. get ball, cut back or inside. repeat,repeat,repeat. celtic got pumped 4-0 off Hearts and beat off Hibs recently so you could look at their players and say they're shite as well, yes? Where you will look at a couple of bad performances in isolation I'll look at the whole picture and see that Candeias has had a very strong season for us. Murphy's had just over 1000 minutes of league football and with 5 assists and 4 goals he's given us a good return. Both are more than good enough at this level. The midfield three has been consistently absent for the best part of 2 years and Jason Holt has been a regular in there. If you want to start pointing fingers start with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,790 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, TMB said: celtic got pumped 4-0 off Hearts and beat off Hibs recently so you could look at their players and say they're shite as well, yes? Where you will look at a couple of bad performances in isolation I'll look at the whole picture and see that Candeias has had a very strong season for us. Murphy's had just over 1000 minutes of league football and with 5 assists and 4 goals he's given us a good return. Both are more than good enough at this level. The midfield three has been consistently absent for the best part of 2 years and Jason Holt has been a regular in there. If you want to start pointing fingers start with him. Jason Holt- 60k signing not a high earner. Jamie Murphy- 2 milion to sign, Big wages. You dont pay 2 million and big wages to look good against Ayr or Hamilton. He’s absolutely shat himself these past two games and allowed himself to be mocked by mikel fucking lustig yesterday. Escobar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,635 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, TMB said: Candeias has 10 assists and 6 goals for the season. Since Murphy joined in January he's had 5 assists and 4 goals. As wingers go they're more than good enough for our league. They're both very average players. Candeias canny take a man on, which for a winger is a major issue. He's also pathetic at defending, which he illustrated quite clearly against them in the last 2 games. Murphy's got no left foot and lacks the same aggressive quality that was the problem with Mackay. Ivybank 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Jason Holt- 60k signing not a high earner. Jamie Murphy- 2 milion to sign, Big wages. You dont pay 2 million and big wages to look good against Ayr or Hamilton. He’s absolutely shat himself these past two games and allowed himself to be mocked by mikel fucking lustig yesterday. We haven't paid anything for Jamie Murphy he's on loan. For a guy who has cost us nothing his return this season has been great. His 5 assists and 4 goals in the league are a good return for someone who has only managed 1000 minutes of football. If he's scored goals in the cup games against Ayr that just an added bonus. As inside forwards go he's more than good enough in an attacking sense. Jason Holt found his level in the Scottish Championship. He's had two years in the SPFL and we've been consistently overrun in midfield it's our one major weakness. We need bigger players in there with more ability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,573 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, TMB said: celtic got pumped 4-0 off Hearts and beat off Hibs recently so you could look at their players and say they're shite as well, yes? Where you will look at a couple of bad performances in isolation I'll look at the whole picture and see that Candeias has had a very strong season for us. Murphy's had just over 1000 minutes of league football and with 5 assists and 4 goals he's given us a good return. Both are more than good enough at this level. The midfield three has been consistently absent for the best part of 2 years and Jason Holt has been a regular in there. If you want to start pointing fingers start with him. Candieas hasn't had a strong season from August to December he was average at best, he's a shitebag who never gets booked or injured because he shites it from tackles,and a bottler too his penalty miss at ibrox against Killie in the last minute shitting it from mcginn at ibrox, who went on to score his open goal miss against thistle at firhill his cowardniss against tierney anytime we play them and statistics mean f all ,windass has more goals/assists than him, but he's hopeless Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, five stars said: They're both very average players. Candeias canny take a man on, which for a winger is a major issue. He's also pathetic at defending, which he illustrated quite clearly against them in the last 2 games. Murphy's got no left foot and lacks the same aggressive quality that was the problem with Mackay. In this league they're above average. Compare their attacking stats to the wide men of any other club and you'll see that. Candeias has worked doggedly during the defensive phases helping out Tavernier and pressing high up the pitch for most of the season. Murphy does tend to cut inside but that's due to him being an inside forward and his return of assists and goals shows it works. Murphy does a lot more for us in terms of tracking back than Barrie McKay ever did that's for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeSS 512 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Pay peanuts you get monkeys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC10 1,449 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Although he's not good enough for a starting place, I'd happily keep him around the squad. Get the impression he's the sort of guy that would put everything in to training and be quite a mature head around the place. Also like that he doesn't seem to throw wee strops and run to the media etc when he's not in the team, just keeps his head down and tries to get back in. gsa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ivybank said: Candieas hasn't had a strong season from August to December he was average at best, he's a shitebag who never gets booked or injured because he shites it from tackles,and a bottler too his penalty miss at ibrox against Killie in the last minute shitting it from mcginn at ibrox, who went on to score his open goal miss against thistle at firhill his cowardniss against tierney anytime we play them and statistics mean f all ,windass has more goals/assists than him, but he's hopeless I could list for you sixteen instances in which he created or scored a goal against various teams in the league. A contribution resulting in a goal almost ever other game he plays in. It's obvious to anyone watching that he does track back, he does help defend, he's not a "shitebag", and he's been one of our best players. Without him setting up chances all season guys like Windass and Morelos wouldn't have scored as much as they have done. Going in to the summer I doubt finding a new wide right player will be the top of our priority list since we have one of the best in the league currently filling that role for us. You're welcome to hate the guy all you want. You're probably still raw from yesterday and this type of hysterical overreaction is expected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,635 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, TMB said: In this league they're above average. Compare their attacking stats to the wide men of any other club and you'll see that. Candeias has worked doggedly during the defensive phases helping out Tavernier and pressing high up the pitch for most of the season. Murphy does tend to cut inside but that's due to him being an inside forward and his return of assists and goals shows it works. Murphy does a lot more for us in terms of tracking back than Barrie McKay ever did that's for sure. Candeias attempted challenge before their second goal in the last game must be one of the most pathetic attempts at a tackle I've ever seen. But maybe your right, there better than the league average. Is that good enough for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, JC10 said: Although he's not good enough for a starting place, I'd happily keep him around the squad. Get the impression he's the sort of guy that would put everything in to training and be quite a mature head around the place. Also like that he doesn't seem to throw wee strops and run to the media etc when he's not in the team, just keeps his head down and tries to get back in. Holt isn't good enough to play for Rangers you admit that much yourself. The point of a squad is having a players who can come in and do a job if the first-team regulars are injured or suspended. Why keep Holt around who isn't good enough and who has proven over the last two years that he should be nowhere near central midfield? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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