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This is how bad the situation is, pass marks for just trying  

Like a 10th place medal for the special kids  

Complete disaster.  

Another full rebuild, Rookie manager, no transfer fees in for anyone. Paying off huge salaries and contracts.

 

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Think I’ve said before, he gives everything and cleans up quite well but has never ever had that killer pass or decent shot to be a top midfielder. He gives his all and tries his absolute best but his best is just nowhere near good enough for where we need to be. 

It’s thanks but find yourself a new club in the summer, but I wouldn’t be walking away from a bumper contract till 2020 either

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7 hours ago, TMB said:

Lacks the physicality to be part of our midfield next season.  Holt, Halliday, and Winass, as a midfield 3 are one of the key reasons we've failed at any attempt to play a 4-3-3 over the last few years.  They lack ability, physicality, and Windass just can't be arsed defending.  Throw guys like Kranjcar, Barrie McKay, and Waghorn in there and it's no wonder our midfield was overrun.

I do think Candeais and Murphy are a step in the right direction.  Certainly improvements on McKay and Waghorn in those wide areas.  However, the midfield 3 need to be looked at and fixed once and for all.  We need players with physicality and who are very competitive by nature to ensure we win those midfield battles next season.

 Candeias and Murphy are absolutely nowhere near good enough.

 

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19 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

 Candeias and Murphy are absolutely nowhere near good enough.

 

Candeias has 10 assists and 6 goals for the season.  Since Murphy joined in January he's had 5 assists and 4 goals.  As wingers go they're more than good enough for our league.  

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He plays to the best of his ability and gives his all but he is not of the level we require, that's not his fault. If the rest of the team had made the same efforts as him then things would not be as bad. He cost 50k and has given us value and more for that . He physically just is not strong enough. It will be time at the end of the season to thank him for his efforts but let him go. I do think that he will at least try for the remainder of the season unlike the majority of our team.

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Holt is a player I cannot fault for commitment and effort. Gives 100% every time he is on the park. He probably knows his own limitations but it has never stopped him from putting a shift unlike a lot of others. Would genuinely be okay with keeping him as a squad player.

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8 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Candeias is one of the biggest shitebags in that team, and can fuck off whenever he likes horrible cunt of a guy

Yours is the minority opinion.  Candeias has been excellent this season and I was glad to see him get that new contract.  Looking forward to seeing him next season under a better manager surrounded by better players.  

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8 minutes ago, TMB said:

Candeias has 10 assists and 6 goals for the season.  Since Murphy joined in January he's had 5 assists and 4 goals.  As wingers go they're more than good enough for our league.  

Hibs and the tarrier games both, more so Murphy, have been completely non existent.( i know candeias scored a goal)

if we’re getting Murphy for 800k as was originally reported then mibbe but 2 million, no chance.

get ball, cut back or inside.

 

repeat,repeat,repeat.

 

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1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Hibs and the tarrier games both, more so Murphy, have been completely non existent.( i know candeias scored a goal)

if we’re getting Murphy for 800k as was originally reported then mibbe but 2 million, no chance.

get ball, cut back or inside.

 

repeat,repeat,repeat.

 

celtic got pumped 4-0 off Hearts and beat off Hibs recently so you could look at their players and say they're shite as well, yes?  Where you will look at a couple of bad performances in isolation I'll look at the whole picture and see that Candeias has had a very strong season for us.  Murphy's had just over 1000 minutes of league football and with 5 assists and 4 goals he's given us a good return.  Both are more than good enough at this level.

The midfield three has been consistently absent for the best part of 2 years and Jason Holt has been a regular in there.  If you want to start pointing fingers start with him.  

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Just now, TMB said:

celtic got pumped 4-0 off Hearts and beat off Hibs recently so you could look at their players and say they're shite as well, yes?  Where you will look at a couple of bad performances in isolation I'll look at the whole picture and see that Candeias has had a very strong season for us.  Murphy's had just over 1000 minutes of league football and with 5 assists and 4 goals he's given us a good return.  Both are more than good enough at this level.

The midfield three has been consistently absent for the best part of 2 years and Jason Holt has been a regular in there.  If you want to start pointing fingers start with him.  

Jason Holt- 60k signing not a high earner.

Jamie Murphy- 2 milion to sign, Big wages.

You dont pay 2 million and big wages to look good against Ayr or Hamilton. He’s absolutely shat himself these past two games and allowed himself to be mocked by mikel fucking lustig yesterday.

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31 minutes ago, TMB said:

Candeias has 10 assists and 6 goals for the season.  Since Murphy joined in January he's had 5 assists and 4 goals.  As wingers go they're more than good enough for our league.  

They're both very average players.

Candeias canny take a man on, which for a winger is a major issue. He's also pathetic at defending, which he illustrated quite clearly against them in the last 2 games. 

Murphy's got no left foot and lacks the same aggressive quality that was the problem with Mackay.

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2 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Jason Holt- 60k signing not a high earner.

Jamie Murphy- 2 milion to sign, Big wages.

You dont pay 2 million and big wages to look good against Ayr or Hamilton. He’s absolutely shat himself these past two games and allowed himself to be mocked by mikel fucking lustig yesterday.

We haven't paid anything for Jamie Murphy he's on loan.  For a guy who has cost us nothing his return this season has been great.  His 5 assists and 4 goals in the league are a good return for someone who has only managed 1000 minutes of football.  If he's scored goals in the cup games against Ayr that just an added bonus.  As inside forwards go he's more than good enough in an attacking sense.

Jason Holt found his level in the Scottish Championship.  He's had two years in the SPFL and we've been consistently overrun in midfield it's our one major weakness.  We need bigger players in there with more ability.

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11 minutes ago, TMB said:

celtic got pumped 4-0 off Hearts and beat off Hibs recently so you could look at their players and say they're shite as well, yes?  Where you will look at a couple of bad performances in isolation I'll look at the whole picture and see that Candeias has had a very strong season for us.  Murphy's had just over 1000 minutes of league football and with 5 assists and 4 goals he's given us a good return.  Both are more than good enough at this level.

The midfield three has been consistently absent for the best part of 2 years and Jason Holt has been a regular in there.  If you want to start pointing fingers start with him.  

Candieas hasn't had a strong season from August to December he was average at best,

he's a shitebag who never gets booked or injured because he shites it from tackles,and a bottler too

his penalty miss at ibrox against Killie in the last minute

shitting it from mcginn at ibrox, who went on to score

his open goal miss against thistle at firhill

his cowardniss against tierney anytime we play them

and statistics mean f all ,windass has more goals/assists than him, but he's hopeless

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Just now, five stars said:

They're both very average players.

Candeias canny take a man on, which for a winger is a major issue. He's also pathetic at defending, which he illustrated quite clearly against them in the last 2 games. 

Murphy's got no left foot and lacks the same aggressive quality that was the problem with Mackay.

In this league they're above average.  Compare their attacking stats to the wide men of any other club and you'll see that.  Candeias has worked doggedly during the defensive phases helping out Tavernier and pressing high up the pitch for most of the season.  Murphy does tend to cut inside but that's due to him being an inside forward and his return of assists and goals shows it works.  Murphy does a lot more for us in terms of tracking back than Barrie McKay ever did that's for sure.

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Although he's not good enough for a starting place, I'd happily keep him around the squad. Get the impression he's the sort of guy that would put everything in to training and be quite a mature head around the place.

Also like that he doesn't seem to throw wee strops and run to the media etc when he's not in the team, just keeps his head down and tries to get back in.

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3 minutes ago, Ivybank said:

Candieas hasn't had a strong season from August to December he was average at best,

he's a shitebag who never gets booked or injured because he shites it from tackles,and a bottler too

his penalty miss at ibrox against Killie in the last minute

shitting it from mcginn at ibrox, who went on to score

his open goal miss against thistle at firhill

his cowardniss against tierney anytime we play them

and statistics mean f all ,windass has more goals/assists than him, but he's hopeless

I could list for you sixteen instances in which he created or scored a goal against various teams in the league.  A contribution resulting in a goal almost ever other game he plays in.  It's obvious to anyone watching that he does track back, he does help defend, he's not a "shitebag", and he's been one of our best players.  Without him setting up chances all season guys like Windass and Morelos wouldn't have scored as much as they have done.  Going in to the summer I doubt finding a new wide right player will be the top of our priority list since we have one of the best in the league currently filling that role for us.  

You're welcome to hate the guy all you want.  You're probably still raw from yesterday and this type of hysterical overreaction is expected.  

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8 minutes ago, TMB said:

In this league they're above average.  Compare their attacking stats to the wide men of any other club and you'll see that.  Candeias has worked doggedly during the defensive phases helping out Tavernier and pressing high up the pitch for most of the season.  Murphy does tend to cut inside but that's due to him being an inside forward and his return of assists and goals shows it works.  Murphy does a lot more for us in terms of tracking back than Barrie McKay ever did that's for sure.

Candeias attempted challenge before their second goal in the last game must be one of the most pathetic attempts at a tackle I've ever seen. 

But maybe your right, there better than the league average. Is that good enough for you?

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2 minutes ago, JC10 said:

Although he's not good enough for a starting place, I'd happily keep him around the squad. Get the impression he's the sort of guy that would put everything in to training and be quite a mature head around the place.

Also like that he doesn't seem to throw wee strops and run to the media etc when he's not in the team, just keeps his head down and tries to get back in.

Holt isn't good enough to play for Rangers you admit that much yourself.  The point of a squad is having a players who can come in and do a job if the first-team regulars are injured or suspended.  Why keep Holt around who isn't good enough and who has proven over the last two years that he should be nowhere near central midfield? 

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