ronniemca 479 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The elephant in the room in all the euphoria is simply this.look at the clusterfuck of shit that is masquerading as a squad of players at the club .Nobody and I mean Nobody could turn them into winners .It is a massive job to shift possibly 80 per cent of them quickly and bring others in.we really are looking at a longer project here I think bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, FSM said: I wouldn't say that they are, and Gerrard never played under Klopp. You dont think Benitez and Houllier are up there with the best coaches? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, WWTC said: You dont think Benitez and Houllier are up there with the best coaches? We talking top 10 or top 50? Top 10, no, top 50, yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Some of the negativity around this appointment baffles me, but then it doesnt suprise me. Neil McCann is a good example. Almost no coaching or managerial experience, but knows the game and is very knowledgeable, performed at a high level aswell, and then took to punditry. His opinions were so highly thought of he was even mentioned as a potential Rangers manager. When Dundee appointed him, there were very few negative comments from press, managers, ex players or fans. Now granted, he’s not quite turned them around just yet, but most would agree given time he will. Compare that to us appointing one of the biggest names in world football under similar circumstances and the difference in reaction is startling. I suppose that comes with being the only show in town. mafia32 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,960 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, WWTC said: You dont think Benitez and Houllier are up there with the best coaches? They aren't, baffling if anyone thinks they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,037 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Going by yesterday's video he needs to earn Jimmy Bells trust for starters! Billythebear77, murzo and BridgeIsBlue 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-AM-ONE 9 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, WWTC said: Some of the negativity around this appointment baffles me, but then it doesnt suprise me. Neil McCann is a good example. Almost no coaching or managerial experience, but knows the game and is very knowledgeable, performed at a high level aswell, and then took to punditry. His opinions were so highly thought of he was even mentioned as a potential Rangers manager. When Dundee appointed him, there were very few negative comments from press, managers, ex players or fans. Now granted, he’s not quite turned them around just yet, but most would agree given time he will. Compare that to us appointing one of the biggest names in world football under similar circumstances and the difference in reaction is startling. I suppose that comes with being the only show in town. Difference between us and Dundee mate. Gerrard deserves time and hopefully the assurances he's been given come to bare. It would be great for everyone if this works out because if this works out it starts making us instantly more attractive to better players and potential manager. Just hope Stevie hasn't been sold a lie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The poll that went around here last week had more people NOT wanting Gerrard as our manager. I'm glad to see that a lot of people have had a turnaround but there are still some that need convincing. Embrace the moment that was yesterday. He should never be a polarizing figure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 13,978 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I don't get the 'Rangers man' bit, in relation to trusting him. There isn't a Rangers man anywhere good enough, so it makes absolutely no difference. bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,324 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Zulu said: McCoist could never be compared with SG in any form of the game This. There is absolutely no comparison. The reality is McCoist’s a court jester. A great footballer but he didn’t have the ruthless streak a manager needs nor the tactical acumen. He just wants to be loved. Practically every time McCoist spoke it was (and still is) vacuous drivel, deviod of any substance. Everything Gerrard said yesterday oozed passion, substance, determination and class. His punditry is the same: Insightful and well considered. Gary Neville proved that great pundits/players don’t necessarily make great managers so let’s see how this goes but I suspect Gerrard will also trump MCoist in the mangerial stakes, and by a considerable margin. bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, Goosetav said: They aren't, baffling if anyone thinks they are. Hows it baffling? Gerrard says Benitez is the best hes worked under so thats not too bad a start, then take into account what hes done in the game, its baffling if anyone thinks he isnt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,324 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Zulu said: McCoist could never be compared with SG in any form of the game This. There is absolutely no comparison. The reality is McCoist’s a court jester. A great footballer but he didn’t have the ruthless streak a manager needs nor the tactical acumen. He just wants to be loved. Practically every time McCoist spoke it was (and still is) vacuous drivel, deviod of any substance. Everything Gerrard said yesterday oozed passion, substance, determination and class. His punditry is the same: Insightful and well considered. Gary Neville proved that great pundits/players don’t necessarily make great managers so let’s see how this goes but I suspect Gerrard will also trump MCoist in the mangerial stakes, and by a considerable margin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, I-AM-ONE said: Difference between us and Dundee mate. Gerrard deserves time and hopefully the assurances he's been given come to bare. It would be great for everyone if this works out because if this works out it starts making us instantly more attractive to better players and potential manager. Just hope Stevie hasn't been sold a lie. Ofcourse there is, i get that. Just seems there was alot more positivity around McCanns appointment than Gerrards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billythebear77 10,386 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Siwel said: I think G-man will be a fine manager I prefer G-unit, G-force or G-spot Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Billythebear77 said: I prefer G-unit, G-force or G-spot Uncle Georgie G-Spot. Billythebear77 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,680 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, Siwel said: Uncle Georgie G-Spot. Sounds like a tarrier youth coach Billythebear77 and CoopsLaud 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,960 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, WWTC said: Hows it baffling? Gerrard says Benitez is the best hes worked under so thats not too bad a start, then take into account what hes done in the game, its baffling if anyone thinks he isnt. If he was one of the best in the world he wouldn't have been in The Championship last season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 He could have said 'no' to Rangers. But he didn't. With is credentials as a player at the very highest level for club and country he could have waited out for a safer, less high profile, more comfortable first appointment as a football manager and then steadily built up his managerial credentials over a long period of time. But he's not fazed by the challenge of managing Rangers even though he's seen managers come, fail and then go in very quick succession. He seems to me to have the inner strength to deal with difficult stuff, the experience of playing and leading teams at the very highest level to know what players and a team need to do to get into winning habits, and he seems to me to have the leadership character to make a real success of it. I hope he is a superbly successful Rangers manager and when he eventually leaves its because he has been a huge success and has put the Club right back at the top in Scotland. I appreciate the need for managers to earn trust. After all we've been through in recent seasons with managerial disappointment after yet more disappointment it becomes harder with each manager appointment to be confident beyond any doubt that the appointment will work out well. With the Gerrard / McAllister management pairing I'm taking the view that they start with the bank of trust and support full and overflowing and that it remains that way. They must be given time and a reasonable amount of a transfer fund. It's not one without the other - its both - so that a proper title-challenging Rangers side is taking to the pitch and winning enough games to be right up there properly competing for titles and going on to win them. It's not back them at any cost of failure. But they need to be given reasonable time and resources to do a proper job, and a bank of Supporter trust and commitment that remains sufficiently full for long enough to let them have a real go at bringing in title 55. bluedylan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Goosetav said: If he was one of the best in the world he wouldn't have been in The Championship last season He took over at Newcastle with about 10 games to go, and the won the championship the following season. Who were his employers before them again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 63,960 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, WWTC said: He took over at Newcastle with about 10 games to go, and the won the championship the following season. Who were his employers before them again? Real Madrid WWTC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Benitez is a brilliant manager. I actually think he’s one of the most under rated manager around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 If you consistently win games you get praise, if you consistently lose/draw you get slated. Facts of life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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