ForeverAndEver 71,450 Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Band of Brothers said: Back to fifa You!!! Patter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Patter Text book Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Hair Bear 110 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Should never have got this far no one knows what went on call me old fashioned if you want! But happens in the changing rooms should stay in it. Murty went crying to the board then boad got witnesses from some players now we have this shambles.. dougie76 and Bears r us 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, True Hair Bear said: Should never have got this far no one knows what went on call me old fashioned if you want! But happens in the changing should stay in it. Murty went crying to the board then boad got witnesses from some players now we have this shambles.. The only ones causing this shambles are the players concerned. Murty went to the board with a complaint, are the board all wankers and clueless because they found in his favour, aye? Strangely enough, the last time I looked at employment law, grievances are for all employees, or do managers not count, aye? It is one of the guilty who is appealing. Does what went on in the dressing room stays in the dressing room, not also apply to players, aye? Let the board do their job and get dissenters and grasses to fuck out of our club. Mesmer, weshallnotbemoved!, With Heart and Hand and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter-of-Smith 566 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: The only ones causing this shambles are the players concerned. Murty went to the board with a complaint, are the board all wankers and clueless because the found in his favour, aye? Strangely enough, the last time I looked at employment law, grievances are for all employees, or do managers not count, aye? It is one of the guilty who is appealing. Does what went on in the dressing room stays in the dressing room, not also apply to players, aye? Let the board do their and get dissenters and grasses to fuck out of our club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,433 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Brubear said: Interesting that most people on here think Miller is past it and had nothing to offer, yet no fewer than 3 SPL clubs are opening talks with him. Guess we all know better than those employed as managers. By that logic we should be giving MoH a bumper new deal because Motherwell and St Johnston are after him. To Be A Ranger, Blue Avenger and Ibrox_Nights 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graeme_4 34,433 Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Goosetav said: He's easily a hall of famer. When people like Novo and McCulloch(who I both like) are in, it's not setting the bar that high Novo (and even McCulloch) have contributed far far more, and walked away with bags of medals. Wallace is a serial loser. Blue Avenger, Jamie0202, Lewdbear72 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Realistically, as always is in these cases, the truth will be somewhere in the middle. Wallace and Miller no doubt crossed a line, some will no doubt feel that the line had to be crossed in light of Murty’s lack of reaction to slipping standards. Don’t see much sense in getting upset about it tbh. My own view is that to be fined and suspended for something said immidiately after an Old Firm humbling it must have been bad; because surely some consideration will have been given to the emotion of the situation? Blue Avenger and gmcf 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Lee Wallace, Rangers Legend ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Big Al 55 9,248 Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 I'd rather our captain was fined for calling out the cowards in our team than patting them on the back and tell them it's all ok, at least they both showed some passion, don't really have a problem with them overstepping the Mark either. They were the only 2 who showed any passion that day. dougie76, Brackley Bluenose, CoatbridgeBear and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Big Al II said: I'd rather our captain was fined for calling out the cowards in our team than patting them on the back and tell them it's all ok, at least they both showed some passion, don't really have a problem with them overstepping the Mark either. They were the only 2 who showed any passion that day. If only! He was fined for their indisgressions against the manager, not for calling out the spineless cunts in our team, which says it all for those two back stabbing two faced cunts. We were nothing but a meal ticket to these two fuckers who also thought they were bigger than the club and turncoat Wallace has just signed his own death warrant. Looking forward to Mr King shredding the bastard in his own inimitable way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dougie76 15,359 Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 We don't have a fucking clue what happened, this place is full of bloody lunatics Paulbrian11, sassaaaa, CoatbridgeBear and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 What really gets my fucking goat in this whole thing is that these type of conversations/heated arguments happen in every dressing room at every level of football across the UK. Shows just how much of a no mark manager Murty really was if he wasn’t able to deal with it. Can you imagine Walter Smith going to HR after an argument in the dressing room? ??? dougie76 and delparlane 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 11 hours ago, Barasa said: Suck it up & get his head down at his work. Or request a transfer. Do you think a football team can improve as a democracy? Examples? What? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,450 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: If only! He was fined for their indisgressions against the manager, not for calling out the spineless cunts in our team, which says it all for those two back stabbing two faced cunts. We were nothing but a meal ticket to these two fuckers who also thought they were bigger than the club and turncoat Wallace has just signed his own death warrant. Looking forward to Mr King shredding the bastard in his own inimitable way. In what way is Wallace a turncoat? dougie76, Brackley Bluenose and Lloyd 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said: What really gets my fucking goat in this whole thing is that these type of conversations/heated arguments happen in every dressing room at every level of football across the UK. Shows just how much of a no mark manager Murty really was if he wasn’t able to deal with it. Can you imagine Walter Smith going to HR after an argument in the dressing room? ??? Yes, but being like Walter is not the point. The board have deliberated. Only they know the story,. They have made the decision, so can anyone tell me why they would be so wrong and why we should not back that decision? They didn't get fined for doing fuck all wrong, so I cannot understand why not a word against the perp's of this clusterfick and now one is going against the club on appeal. Fickle fans indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: In what way is Wallace a turncoat? If you have to ask on something so basic and staring you in the face, then there is no point in explaining. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: If you have to ask on something so basic and staring you in the face, then there is no point in explaining. You can’t even answer a question because you know how much you’ve fucked that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, ben51 said: The treatment of Lee Wallace has been shameful. I hope this doesn't spell the end for him, despite him not being at his best he doesn't deserve an exit like this. Hall of Fame, in my eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Yes, but being like Walter is not the point. The board have deliberated. Only they know the story,. They have made the decision, so can anyone tell me why they would be so wrong and why we should not back that decision? They didn't get fined for doing fuck all wrong, so I cannot understand why not a word against the perp's of this clusterfick and now one is going against the club on appeal. Fickle fans indeed. Have a fucking word with yourself you dick. How does it make me fickle because I’m questioning a loyal servant of the club against a guy who was so far out of his depth he took a dressing room argument to HR? You clearly know fuck all about the game if you think the board should even remotely be involved in a dressing room row. Murty should have dealt with it in house. If they were out of order then he should have taken the action to drop them/fine them all within his rights he was the manager (supposed to be) after all. It’s comical from us that our previous two managers have had to take dressing room issues to HR when I know of no other examples I can think of where a clubs HR team have had to get involved because of a heated exchange in the dressing room. Cringeworthy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRanger86 281 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Blue Avenger said: If only! He was fined for their indisgressions against the manager, not for calling out the spineless cunts in our team, which says it all for those two back stabbing two faced cunts. We were nothing but a meal ticket to these two fuckers who also thought they were bigger than the club and turncoat Wallace has just signed his own death warrant. Looking forward to Mr King shredding the bastard in his own inimitable way. In what way is Wallace a turncoat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Just a total mess of a situation. This could have easily been dealt with by a stronger manager. Both sides have there stories now but the truth will be somewhere in between. Board surley wouldn't have fined and suspended them for tempers flaring alone. They must have crossed some line. If they didn't and this appeal is successful questions need to be asked of both murty and the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,433 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 59 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said: What really gets my fucking goat in this whole thing is that these type of conversations/heated arguments happen in every dressing room at every level of football across the UK. Shows just how much of a no mark manager Murty really was if he wasn’t able to deal with it. Can you imagine Walter Smith going to HR after an argument in the dressing room? ??? Think we can all agree that Warburton and Murty we’re both soft as shite. The new ‘HR’ culture was implemented by MW IMO. Smith was the total opposite. He’d have whoever by the scruff of the neck because he had the power to end your time at Rangers. Murty was always temporary and was always doomed when things got tough as he had no power whatsoever. That doesn’t mean that Miller or Wallace were in the right though. They should have been digging out the players first and foremost, and not pulling out the squad (and several previously). Both Miller and Wallace are just as culpable as the rest, and have been involved in some of the worst results in our history. Looking forward to them both being gone. smartypants 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,450 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Think we can all agree that Warburton and Murty we’re both soft as shite. The new ‘HR’ culture was implemented by MW IMO. Smith was the total opposite. He’d have whoever by the scruff of the neck because he had the power to end your time at Rangers. Murty was always temporary and was always doomed when things got tough as he had no power whatsoever. That doesn’t mean that Miller or Wallace were in the right though. They should have been digging out the players first and foremost, and not pulling out the squad (and several previously). Both Miller and Wallace are just as culpable as the rest, and have been involved in some of the worst results in our history. Looking forward to them both being gone. A really doubt the pulling out story is true 35 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Yes, but being like Walter is not the point. The board have deliberated. Only they know the story,. They have made the decision, so can anyone tell me why they would be so wrong and why we should not back that decision? They didn't get fined for doing fuck all wrong, so I cannot understand why not a word against the perp's of this clusterfick and now one is going against the club on appeal. Fickle fans indeed. Fickle? You’ve done a uturn on Dave King because he brought in an under 18s manager 34 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: If you have to ask on something so basic and staring you in the face, then there is no point in explaining. You explain then Fred H Crawford 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: Just a total mess of a situation. This could have easily been dealt with by a stronger manager. This BlueKnight87 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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