McEwan's Lager 14,960 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Grundy said: Whoever said that Davie Cooper shouldn't be in our greatest 11 needs an eye test or memory jolt. Fud. I said possibly you fud. There’s a case to be made that Alan Morton is the greatest left winger in our history. More games, more goals, more titles and widely regarded as the outstanding left winger in the world at the time. But it’s completely academic because the only people who could have judged between them are long since dead. tm91 likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McEwan's Lager 14,960 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, gsa said: Strasbourg, AEK, Gothenburg.. Sparta Prague, Levski Sofia, Unifiuckingrea Urziceni. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Smith couldn't win either way with regards to the UEFA cup final. If he changed the system and had a go and got beat people would have been saying why didn't we stick with the same style that got us to the final. BridgeIsBlue and LaudrupsPatrickBoots like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForeverAndEver 47,568 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, gsa said: We lost 2-0 and embarrassed ourselves in front of everyone by not even attempting to win a final. So no, not the right approach. You can only say being that negative is the "right approach" if you win. It was humiliating watching a team in a final scared to leave their own half. Hardly embarrassed ourselves, we had the same way the full way to the final and were playing a team that had just skelped Bayern, if we attacked them I reckon it would have been worse BridgeIsBlue likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RFC RYAN 2,878 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 A dof is a waste of a wage. Jason Cummings is a terrible player. Atmosphere at ibrox is terrible even in the bigger games. Fans are too quick to get on the players back. Hummel will be another terrible strip sponsor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan1872 29 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Not getting promoted 3 seasons in a row and having to do the championship for 2 years is fucking embarrassing considering the money we had. I cringe just thinking about it. BridgeIsBlue and tm91 like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tm91 3,078 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, McEwan's Lager said: I said possibly you fud. There’s a case to be made that Alan Morton is the greatest left winger in our history. More games, more goals, more titles and widely regarded as the outstanding left winger in the world at the time. But it’s completely academic because the only people who could have judged between them are long since dead. Actually, that's a fair shout about Alan Morton. By all accounts if we had a Mount Rushmore of the greatest players (in terms of pure talent) to ever play for Rangers, he'd probably be on it (with Cooper, Baxter and Laudrup?) if even half the reports of his ability are true, and yet he's seemingly treated as nothing more than a footnote in our history. One of the good things about the past decade or so has been the renewed emphasis on the McNeil Brothers, Campbell, McBeath, Vallance etc. I hope in time there's another renewed analysis of some of the great players of the Struth era. If you based our greatest eleven just on stats and had some foolproof way of comparing players across eras, it's entirely possible that not many recent players from the past few decades would even get in. One would assume the Iron Curtain, Dave Meiklejohn, Alan Morton, Bob McPhail etc. would all be there for starters. Bears likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
16BlueSherbert90 11,873 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Flo was arguably the best and cheapest purchase in Rangers history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walter-of-Smith 565 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Sweettartangirl said: Flo was arguably the best and cheapest purchase in Rangers history. Never heard that one tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JC10 1,138 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Ricky foster was a good player in his first spell with us. LaudrupsPatrickBoots likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MFJ14 409 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Lloyds Bank were bringing the finances under control Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McEwan's Lager 14,960 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 8 hours ago, tm91 said: Actually, that's a fair shout about Alan Morton. By all accounts if we had a Mount Rushmore of the greatest players (in terms of pure talent) to ever play for Rangers, he'd probably be on it (with Cooper, Baxter and Laudrup?) if even half the reports of his ability are true, and yet he's seemingly treated as nothing more than a footnote in our history. One of the good things about the past decade or so has been the renewed emphasis on the McNeil Brothers, Campbell, McBeath, Vallance etc. I hope in time there's another renewed analysis of some of the great players of the Struth era. If you based our greatest eleven just on stats and had some foolproof way of comparing players across eras, it's entirely possible that not many recent players from the past few decades would even get in. One would assume the Iron Curtain, Dave Meiklejohn, Alan Morton, Bob McPhail etc. would all be there for starters. Yeah I totally get that the Greatest XI was voted on in 98 or 99 so it was full of 9 in a Row players but if you look at the achievements and longevity and the match reports of some of the older players they blow guys like Hateley and Butcher out the water. They probably should have done two XIs - had a panel of guys like Sandy Jardine and David Mason determine an XI based on history and then had the fans vote. For what it’s worth mine, based on service, achievements and records, would be something like this: 1. Jerry Dawson 2. Sandy Jardine 3. John Greig 4. Richard Gough 5. David Meiklejohn 6. Jim Baxter 7. Sandy Archibald 8. Andy Cunningham 9. Ally McCoist 10. Bob McPhail 11. Alan Morton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulbrian11 389 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 10 hours ago, gsa said: We lost 2-0 and embarrassed ourselves in front of everyone by not even attempting to win a final. So no, not the right approach. You can only say being that negative is the "right approach" if you win. It was humiliating watching a team in a final scared to leave their own half. Yet you’re one of the few who’s actually embarrassed. The rest of us recognise the achievement of getting to a European final with a squad which had no business being anywhere near one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Straight-Edge-Loyal 5,318 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paulbrian11 said: Yet you’re one of the few who’s actually embarrassed. The rest of us recognise the achievement of getting to a European final with a squad which had no business being anywhere near one. I would like to point out that Kirk Broadfoot has a UEFA cup runners up medal thanks to us. Kirk Broadfoot that is all. BridgeIsBlue and Paulbrian11 like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 We'd struggle to replace Morelos if he went. Ryan Jack was one of our best players last year despite only being fit for half of it. Declan John is better than Lee Wallace. Rum Ham and BridgeIsBlue like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grundy 571 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 @McEwan's Lager Apologies for the "fud" comment, had a few libations last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gsa 3,905 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Paulbrian11 said: Yet you’re one of the few who’s actually embarrassed. The rest of us recognise the achievement of getting to a European final with a squad which had no business being anywhere near one. How do you know? Everyone I went to Manchester with was gutted we didn't even try to win it. It was pathetic effort for a once in a lifetime final. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BridgeIsBlue 59,543 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, jackrfc95 said: We'd struggle to replace Morelos if he went. Ryan Jack was one of our best players last year despite only being fit for half of it. Declan John is better than Lee Wallace. Agree with the first and third. CoatbridgeBear likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wullyRFC 5,229 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Sweettartangirl said: Flo was arguably the best and cheapest purchase in Rangers history. Ehmm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
backup 4,722 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 We are further in debt with dave at the helm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DariuszAdamczuk 548 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 We wont win anything for as long as Warburtons spice boys and losers hang around the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 12,995 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 58 minutes ago, jackrfc95 said: We'd struggle to replace Morelos if he went. Ryan Jack was one of our best players last year despite only being fit for half of it. Declan John is better than Lee Wallace. That's not an unpopular opinion, it's a fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dazzler 2,428 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: That's not an unpopular opinion, it's a fact. In your opinion. plumbGER likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marky. 5,414 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I never liked Kris Boyd as a player. Goals in abundance of course, but even Smith didn’t trust him when it mattered. The saying goes that you are born to be a Ranger, that is why this squad are not going to win anything. They are fortunate and lucky to be part of the club. Very few are good enough with the right mentality. I’m disappointed to see Miller go the way he did. He’s a legend in his own right. People talk quality over quantity, I’d imagine that the quantity option would still be of a better quality than what we have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FSM 20,886 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Jonathan1872 said: Not getting promoted 3 seasons in a row and having to do the championship for 2 years is fucking embarrassing considering the money we had. I cringe just thinking about it. You may have misunderstood the meaning of the word 'unpopular'. jintybear, TheKingObv, TheCutch and 1 other like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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