Drunk and disorderly. 14,203 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 It is early days but it seems Stevie will run with youngsters if he thinks they are good enough. We had a few players under 21 playing on Thursday and I thought they did well. If anything the likes of Middleton at 18 years old stood out. My MOTM despite the fact he only played 30 minutes. I think it's refreshing to see our manager give the younger lads an opportunity. Something we all longed for in the lower divisions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 To be honest I’ve seen people on here slating our academy before it’s fundamental purpose is to put players into the first team and if you look at the last 8 years or so generally if the players have been good enough they’ve had their chance and it was over to them to take it. Lewis McLeod, Fraser Aird, Barrie McKay, Rhys McCabe, Ross Perry, Jamie Ness, Kyle Hutton, Gregg Wylde, Andrew Little, Danny Wilson, Andrew Murdoch, Ross McCrorie, Myles Beerman, Jamie Barjonas and now Glenn Middleton (to name a few) have all had their chance at first team. It’s sink or swim at that point. dougie76 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi95 78 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 If you're good enough, you're old enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,680 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: It is early days but it seems Stevie will run with youngsters if he thinks they are good enough. We had a few players under 21 playing on Thursday and I thought they did well. If anything the likes of Middleton at 18 years old stood out. My MOTM despite the fact he only played 30 minutes. I think it's refreshing to see our manager give the younger lads an opportunity. Something we all longed for in the lower divisions. He didn't even get that, he came on for Windass at the 79 minute mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,430 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 39 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: It is early days but it seems Stevie will run with youngsters if he thinks they are good enough. We had a few players under 21 playing on Thursday and I thought they did well. If anything the likes of Middleton at 18 years old stood out. My MOTM despite the fact he only played 30 minutes. I think it's refreshing to see our manager give the younger lads an opportunity. Something we all longed for in the lower divisions. More young players played at that point than anytime in my lifetime. Problem is they were mostly shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,203 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, theclothmonster said: He didn't even get that, he came on for Windass at the 79 minute mark. 36 minutes ago, theclothmonster said: He didn't even get that, he came on for Windass at the 79 minute mark. He was so good you had to say it twice Joking aside, a ad of 18 who was born a Bear like you and I gets subbed on and the opposition marked him with one player, then two. Sharp wee guy with fast feet. I was watching in the Sandy Sardine front in the second half and had a really good view of his performance. I was shocked at how sharp he was. The lad is a firework. plumbGER, theclothmonster, HG5 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: He was so good you had to say it twice Joking aside, a ad of 18 who was born a Bear like you and I gets subbed on and the opposition marked him with one player, then two. Sharp wee guy with fast feet. I was watching in the Sandy Sardine front in the second half and had a really good view of his performance. I was shocked at how sharp he was. The lad is a firework. Best I’ve seen coming through for a long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Until they are chucked in at the deep end nobody has any idea if they will sink or swim, Middleton looks a swimmer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Would rather they come on when we're a few goals up than gamble on them at the start of a game Hadron Collider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufts1690 75 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 still bother me greatly we lost young Gilmour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza1212 1,212 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, tufts1690 said: still bother me greatly we lost young Gilmour. Yeah but if he'd stayed put he'd almost certainly be getting first team football this season under Gerrard. That's not going to happen for him where he is now for a long time yet I suspect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufts1690 75 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Gazza1212 said: Yeah but if he'd stayed put he'd almost certainly be getting first team football this season under Gerrard. That's not going to happen for him where he is now for a long time yet I suspect. i don't know, he's playing very well down south. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, tufts1690 said: i don't know, he's playing very well down south. He won’t play for Chelsea. Loftus cheek can’t even get a game for Chelsea and he’s just been to a WC. Their academy model is to promise their players they’ll make them premier league players it’s just highly unlikely it’ll be with Chelsea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza1212 1,212 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, tufts1690 said: i don't know, he's playing very well down south. Look at the names ahead of him in that Chelsea midfield. The best he can look forward to is being farmed out like the countless other "promising youngsters" who've went before him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Brackley Bluenose said: To be honest I’ve seen people on here slating our academy before it’s fundamental purpose is to put players into the first team and if you look at the last 8 years or so generally if the players have been good enough they’ve had their chance and it was over to them to take it. Lewis McLeod, Fraser Aird, Barrie McKay, Rhys McCabe, Ross Perry, Jamie Ness, Kyle Hutton, Gregg Wylde, Andrew Little, Danny Wilson, Andrew Murdoch, Ross McCrorie, Myles Beerman, Jamie Barjonas and now Glenn Middleton (to name a few) have all had their chance at first team. It’s sink or swim at that point. Not one been an established first team success so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cedrick said: Not one been an established first team success so far The point is they’ve been given an opportunity. I would also say that MacLeod, McCrorie, Wilson, McGregor and arguably McKay (although I personally wasn’t a fan) are, have been or were all good enough to play in our first team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Brackley Bluenose said: The point is they’ve been given an opportunity. I would also say that MacLeod, McCrorie, Wilson, McGregor and arguably McKay (although I personally wasn’t a fan) are, have been or were all good enough to play in our first team. I’d say McGregor yeah , Durrant coming through was a bit before my time so I’ve seen going onto being top notch first team players (which is the whole point of the academy ) Charlie miller (ruined himself ) ,Barry Ferguson ,yeah can throw in Greegs , Allan Hutton maybe , so all in all we’re talking so far 4 players in my 25 years following Rangers came through to be top notch players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Cedrick said: I’d say McGregor yeah , Durrant coming through was a bit before my time so I’ve seen going onto being top notch first team players (which is the whole point of the academy ) Charlie miller (ruined himself ) ,Barry Ferguson ,yeah can throw in Greegs , Allan Hutton maybe , so all in all we’re talking so far 4 players in my 25 years following Rangers came through to be top notch players I completely take your point if you look at the long term. However, would you not agree that Scotland in general doesn’t produce players and that it’s not necessarily the fault of us as a club? I think the way we’ve restructured over the past couple of seasons will bear fruit and that’s not a throw away remark I genuinely think there are quite a few players who will be very good players for us. The harsh reality is that it’s so difficult to tell how players will develop. An amazing 13 year old can be released by the time he’s 15 and a struggling 18 year old can quite easily have a good run of luck and find himself in the first team if things fall into place for him like McCrorie coming on against thistle last season when Alves gets a knock. dougie76 and Cedrick 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,939 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Billy Gilmour shat himself from Scott Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairheid_bear 166 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: Joking aside, a ad of 18 who was born a Bear like you and I gets subbed on and the opposition marked him with one player, then two. Sharp wee guy with fast feet. I was watching in the Sandy Sardine front in the second half and had a really good view of his performance. I was shocked at how sharp he was. The lad is a firework. Agree completely with this, but I have to say that is the best auto-correct I've seen in a long while. gbm1989 and simplythebestest 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 We don't produce enough good quality young players. Few have come through but ultimately aren't good enough and end up getting released. Cedrick 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,269 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Brackley Bluenose said: He won’t play for Chelsea. Loftus cheek can’t even get a game for Chelsea and he’s just been to a WC. Their academy model is to promise their players they’ll make them premier league players it’s just highly unlikely it’ll be with Chelsea. Ive nothing against Chelsea but the model they use for their youth set up is a disgrace and should be investigated by UEFA. It seems an awful lot of the time they get boys to go there simply to stop other teams getting them. How else can anybody explain the ridiculous amount of players they have out on loan. True Hair Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,449 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, sairheid_bear said: Agree completely with this, but I have to say that is the best auto-correct I've seen in a long while. Definitely something fishy about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said: Ive nothing against Chelsea but the model they use for their youth set up is a disgrace and should be investigated by UEFA. It seems an awful lot of the time they get boys to go there simply to stop other teams getting them. How else can anybody explain the ridiculous amount of players they have out on loan. You could look a lot closer to home for that one. Tiger Shaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,478 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 45 minutes ago, MurrayWilson said: Ive nothing against Chelsea but the model they use for their youth set up is a disgrace and should be investigated by UEFA. It seems an awful lot of the time they get boys to go there simply to stop other teams getting them. How else can anybody explain the ridiculous amount of players they have out on loan. I agree mate. If it was my son I certainly wouldn’t advise him to go there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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