Popular Post WeeJacksonRFC 647 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 Hi there fellow Bears! I've been on this site for years but don't post much these days. Reason for my post today is I would love to show off but also hopefully find a new home for this wonderful piece Rangers History. I have a framed Rangers Football Club Share Certificate from 1908. It is for 25 Ordinary Shares in the Name of Sir John Ure Primrose Sir John Ure Primrose DL LLD (1847–1924) was a Scottish merchant who served as Lord Provost of Glasgow from 1902 to 1905 and as Chairman of Rangers Football Club from 1912 to 1923. He was also Chairman of the Clyde Navigation Trust. It is signed by Our then Chairman/Manager William Wilton and directors David Lawson and James (J.) Walker MORE INFO A bit of background if I recall correctly. When Rangers incorporated on 24 July 1899, £12,000 of shares were issued which was needed to fund the move to Ibrox. The shares issued were: 600 Proprietary shares of £5 each 9,000 Ordinary shares of £1 each i.e. (600 x £5) + (9,000 x £1) = £12,000 As there were only 600 Proprietary shares, these are more rare than the Ordinary shares of which there were 9,000. After incorporation, shares could be bought and sold. When this happened, the share certificate would be returned to the club for cancellation and a new share certificate issued in the new owner's name. This is what seems to have happened here - Sir John Ure Primrose bought 25 Ordinary shares and a new share certificate was issued to him in 1908. The club may well have full records showing all sales/purchases from 1899 and so be able to tell from whom SJUP bought them. Although it is a certificate for the more common Ordinary shares, your certificate is interesting for a few reasons. Firstly it is for 25 shares - I don't think I have seen one before for more than 1 share, so that makes it a little more rare. Also, the certificate was issued to Sir John Ure Primrose who was our President/Chairman which makes it more directly relevant to the history of the club. The share certificate was signed by William Wilton who in 1908 was, of course, our first manager, as well as being the club secretary. Well guys I am deciding to part with this item to invest in my future. I am looking for genuine offers. Or if any one knows some one who may be interested in this item please feel free to put us in touch. I would love it to go to a Proper Rangers fan. I also won't sell it unless the deal is rite for all parties. Shipping will need to be insured and the best available. To protect buyer and seller. I appreciate your time and effort in helping. WATP! IMG_3517.MOV Bobby Hume, Ayrshire Blue, One Jock Wallace and 7 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 That's an absolute cracking piece of our history Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 WNice mate, seen a few. Never in real life, except in Ibrox (actually inside the building) Unfortunately, their genuine cash value is nill, due to reasons we all know. Regardless of that, since this not a English club worth billions, that makes them sellable for what they should be, history. So should hopefully find a good home. I've personally had better success selling Rangers memorabilia on e-bay. All the best. LochendBilly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 I would contact the club itself, mate. I know for a fact Dave King himself snaps up a lot of this kind of memorabilia and displays along corridors of the Bill Struth Stand that would be win/win. You get a few Bob and this gets displayed for everyone’s enjoyment (eg stadium tours) to look at. One Jock Wallace, WATP-FOREVER, JohnHardie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Nice that it is framed and well presented, and in great condition. You could also try a few of the Rangers pubs and maybe our club or the football museum would be interested. Maybe get an estimate. Any decent provenance or history to go with it ? Can add to value sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueensEleven 1,355 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Where would you even begin with a price on this bit of history. Absolutely wonderful piece. Keeping an eye on this LochendBilly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offminorthreat 1,463 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Legitimately interested. What on earth is something like this worth? WeeJacksonRFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Only place that should hang is Ibrox. WeeJacksonRFC and JohnHardie 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Judderman 175 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 How much are you looking for please ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Maybe talk to the club about it too? Amazing piece deserves a proper home. WeeJacksonRFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 https://picclick.co.uk/Original-Glasgow-Rangers-Football-Club-£5-Share-Issued-183265465678.html LochendBilly and WeeJacksonRFC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Wrong forum mate, Rangers are deed, this is a the sevco forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I will swap 1314 of my shiny new ones for your old one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJacksonRFC 647 Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, tannerall said: https://picclick.co.uk/Original-Glasgow-Rangers-Football-Club-£5-Share-Issued-183265465678.html I heard about that one. When I was in touch with club historian David Mason in 2014 I can provide the emails. He appraised it roughly 1400 Pounds and mentioned that value could go up with years. It also has a bit more value behind it for how many shares it was for and the fact it's Sir John Ure Primorse and not James Walker. I really do appreciate you posting that tho ? nice to see other shares. Some days before a game I will have a look at it just to get that feeling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJacksonRFC 647 Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 If only it was 1690! I would have went for it glasgow argyle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJacksonRFC 647 Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Jack The Flipper said: Wrong forum mate, Rangers are deed, this is a the sevco forum. I don't know fella we looked pretty alive in Spain to me !! ? 2 hours ago, Gman36 said: Maybe talk to the club about it too? Amazing piece deserves a proper home. I did back in 2014 and had it appraised by club historian. he did mention they have several of them in the club. back in 2014 some one mentioned maybe contacting the Scottish football museum- I do love it tho two massive people in our beautiful history makes you wonder was it issued up stairs in the managers office all those years ago. Jack The Flipper 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJacksonRFC 647 Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 feel free to send a PM and we can work something out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJacksonRFC 647 Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 9 hours ago, offminorthreat said: Legitimately interested. What on earth is something like this worth? Hey mate just give us a PM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 21/09/2018 at 22:32, WeeJacksonRFC said: Hi there fellow Bears! I've been on this site for years but don't post much these days. Reason for my post today is I would love to show off but also hopefully find a new home for this wonderful piece Rangers History. I have a framed Rangers Football Club Share Certificate from 1908. It is for 25 Ordinary Shares in the Name of Sir John Ure Primrose Sir John Ure Primrose DL LLD (1847–1924) was a Scottish merchant who served as Lord Provost of Glasgow from 1902 to 1905 and as Chairman of Rangers Football Club from 1912 to 1923. He was also Chairman of the Clyde Navigation Trust. It is signed by Our then Chairman/Manager William Wilton and directors David Lawson and James (J.) Walker MORE INFO A bit of background if I recall correctly. When Rangers incorporated on 24 July 1899, £12,000 of shares were issued which was needed to fund the move to Ibrox. The shares issued were: 600 Proprietary shares of £5 each 9,000 Ordinary shares of £1 each i.e. (600 x £5) + (9,000 x £1) = £12,000 As there were only 600 Proprietary shares, these are more rare than the Ordinary shares of which there were 9,000. After incorporation, shares could be bought and sold. When this happened, the share certificate would be returned to the club for cancellation and a new share certificate issued in the new owner's name. This is what seems to have happened here - Sir John Ure Primrose bought 25 Ordinary shares and a new share certificate was issued to him in 1908. The club may well have full records showing all sales/purchases from 1899 and so be able to tell from whom SJUP bought them. Although it is a certificate for the more common Ordinary shares, your certificate is interesting for a few reasons. Firstly it is for 25 shares - I don't think I have seen one before for more than 1 share, so that makes it a little more rare. Also, the certificate was issued to Sir John Ure Primrose who was our President/Chairman which makes it more directly relevant to the history of the club. The share certificate was signed by William Wilton who in 1908 was, of course, our first manager, as well as being the club secretary. Well guys I am deciding to part with this item to invest in my future. I am looking for genuine offers. Or if any one knows some one who may be interested in this item please feel free to put us in touch. I would love it to go to a Proper Rangers fan. I also won't sell it unless the deal is rite for all parties. Shipping will need to be insured and the best available. To protect buyer and seller. I appreciate your time and effort in helping. WATP! IMG_3517.MOV Did you ever manage to punt these mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,529 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 At least £1200 I'd say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetland 5,830 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 22/09/2018 at 21:56, WeeJacksonRFC said: I heard about that one. When I was in touch with club historian David Mason in 2014 I can provide the emails. He appraised it roughly 1400 Pounds and mentioned that value could go up with years. It also has a bit more value behind it for how many shares it was for and the fact it's Sir John Ure Primorse and not James Walker. I really do appreciate you posting that tho ? nice to see other shares. Some days before a game I will have a look at it just to get that feeling. @MorelosRangers VanVeenRangers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanFerguson2013 396 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Lovely certificate. I'm sure it's worth more than my current £300 shares bought a few years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Shepherd 0 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 What happened to this rare share certificate -does anyone know? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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