cushynumber 25,178 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, backup said: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,771 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What does being “valued” at 12 million in England even mean these days? The money is so mental that 12 million isn’t even that impressive a figure. IMO Katic should be playing ahead of Worrall every single week. A loan player is fine if they are clearly better than anybody else i.e Kent but there is next to noting between Worrall and Katic and with Katic being our asset our energies should be going into getting him game time and improving him. bornabear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: What does being “valued” at 12 million in England even mean these days? The money is so mental that 12 million isn’t even that impressive a figure. IMO Katic should be playing ahead of Worrall every single week. Katic is our asset and our energies should be going into getting him game time and improving him. He's started in 17 out of 25 games so far this season. We're giving him game time and improving him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, cushynumber said: you will never dry your hair whooshing it....? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,202 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, DBBTB said: What does being “valued” at 12 million in England even mean these days? The money is so mental that 12 million isn’t even that impressive a figure. IMO Katic should be playing ahead of Worrall every single week. Katic is our asset and our energies should be going into getting him game time and improving him. Agreed. £12m in England is equivalent to what in Scotland ? Possibly 500,000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, The Dude said: There's nothing which says Worrall must always play. He's started as many games in the league as a substitute (4) as he has in the starting XI. In three of those games he was on the bench he didn't even get on the pitch. Katic has started 7 in the league and been on the bench 4 times. No, there is something in his contract that says he must play, there is, there is, there is. It's been said on here, it's true. Just keep repeating it, becomes easy after a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,453 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Heard a rumour that it's in his contract he must play 73% of games if fit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What exactly is the OP getting rid of apart from the last L in his surname? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,119 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 katic is clearly the better option but I don't feel worral has done all that bad. Still a young guy and just trying to do the best for his career. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, bornabear said: Agreed. £12m in England is equivalent to what in Scotland ? Possibly 500,000 We use the same currency mate. plumbGER and bornabear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, plumbGER said: No, there is something in his contract that says he must play, there is, there is, there is. It's been said on here, it's true. Just keep repeating it, becomes easy after a while. I believe it's known as the Lee McCulloch contract. Fred H Crawford and plumbGER 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,512 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 45 minutes ago, The Dude said: He's started in 17 out of 25 games so far this season. We're giving him game time and improving him. How many games has he started out of our last 10? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,808 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I must say, I liked him when he first came but not so much of late. And a few of his comments reek arrogance. Bring back Katic with McCauley to mentor him. However, if there is any rumour to number of games played in his contract then it won't happen. If Mark Allen agreed to this then it is wrong. GlasgowsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, bluenoz said: However, if there is any rumour to number of games played in his contract then it won't happen. It's not a rumour anymore, it's a common fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, The Dude said: I believe it's known as the Lee McCulloch contract. it is known as the failed fisherman's attempt at derailment, piss poor he is at it as well ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: How many games has he started out of our last 10? 3 out of the last ten (Hamilton, St. Johnstone Ayr). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, backup said: it is known as the failed fisherman's attempt at derailment, piss poor he is at it as well ! Mate, I'm still pishing myself at your attempt to prove Ejaria had signed for us on July 1st when Rangers and Liverpool both announced it on June 7th. Obviously they must have forgotten Dodgy Dave's plan and made the announcement early. RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, bluenoz said: I must say, I liked him when he first came but not so much of late. And a few of his comments reek arrogance. Bring back Katic with McCauley to mentor him. However, if there is any rumour to number of games played in his contract then it won't happen. If Mark Allen agreed to this then it is wrong. The only player I know that has had such a clause in a loan deal (and is currently at the club) is Ryan Kent. Bristol City had to pay a 'penalty fee' to Liverpool after not giving him enough game time last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, plumbGER said: If we just keep repeating that Worrall has a clause in his contract, that he must play then it will eventually be passed off as fact. It's a bit taigy, as they have been doing it for years, but never mind. Check this out for a laugh then... https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/11/06/is-joe-worrall-most-at-risk-by-gareth-mcauleys-Rangers-return/ This sort of nonsense will only add weight to the speculation that he does have that sort of clause in his contract. plumbGER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,794 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Check this out for a laugh then... https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/11/06/is-joe-worrall-most-at-risk-by-gareth-mcauleys-Rangers-return/ This sort of nonsense will only add weight to the speculation that he does have that sort of clause in his contract. Only a spastic would use hitc as a source The Specky Forum Organiser 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, TMB said: Burnley we’re ready to bid £12m for Worrall not so long ago. He’s been the England U20 captain and recently made the step up to the U21s. He’s already played 50+ games in the English Championship and is very highly rated down South. Getting such a highly rated young player, who we couldn’t possibly afford, in on loan for a season as cover makes perfect sense. He's not cover though, he's first choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Check this out for a laugh then... https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/11/06/is-joe-worrall-most-at-risk-by-gareth-mcauleys-Rangers-return/ This sort of nonsense will only add weight to the speculation that he does have that sort of clause in his contract. An opinion piece with nothing of note in the content and essentially saying a player could be dropped because a more experienced one will be available soon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, esquire8 said: We should never sign anyone on loan that dictates they should always play. Never should it be out of the managers hands who plays or not. Hopefully this is the last time Allen takes up offers like this We shouldn't be loaning players off of teams that are below us in stature and quality, especially if they can't get a game at that club. The only time we should do that is if it's either an emergency or the player can improve us but isn't getting picked coz he has fell out with the manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, Redwhiteandblue said: We shouldn't be loaning players off of teams that are below us in stature and quality, especially if they can't get a game at that club. The only time we should do that is if it's either an emergency or the player can improve us but isn't getting picked coz he has fell out with the manager. Like Angers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: An opinion piece with nothing of note in the content and essentially saying a player could be dropped because a more experienced one will be available soon? Agreed, but a lot of people read papers and just get sucked in by the writer, even if there's no quotes or anything concrete in it. Just like this thread has become a 12 pager on the OP 's opinion which has lead to this "he has a clause in his contract" sort of stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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