TMB 14,167 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 McCoist has two golden boots but couldn’t get our players scoring goals against part-time teams. Gerrard was a world class player but he’s never going to get that level of performance out of these players. I think the thought process of ‘the manager could do this as a player, so why can’t he get the current players doing it’ is inherently flawed. Weir was a solid defender for us but by all accounts a horrific coach and Senderos and Kiernan were never going to perform to a high standard up here. ger4life_1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bearsden bear said: The lack of goals from midfield has been an issue all season. Alfredo, Tav and Candieas have been shouldering most of the burden. Couple of games without Morales and/or Airfield and we look toothless. Yep, for sure Bearsden bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: We had 16 attempts 10 minutes ago, WATP-FOREVER said: Think you'll find we had +20 From outside the box? Lost count the amount of times someone could have had a go, instead we played it wide and crossed it. RFC55 and crazy bob swollenbaws 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Smell the hotdog said: From outside the box? Lost count the amount of times someone could have had a go, instead we played it wide and crossed it. For sure - no one giving it a dig. And Rfc52 is more accurate with the 16 attempts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, WATP-FOREVER said: For sure - no one giving it a dig. And Rfc52 is more accurate with the 16 attempts. Fuck sake, Vienna took it out me more than I thought then! WATP-FOREVER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Negri's lovechild said: That's it in a nutshell. I remember watching the Davie Cooper skills programme when I was younger, and one thing that stuck in my mind was a story he told where he used the local bins as defenders and used to spend hours practicing curling the ball round them. Inspired me to practice it. Neighbours must have hated me! Point in making is, if Steven Gerrard can t inspire some of these guys they shouldn't be in the game. I used the rough cast wall of our coal shed when I was growing up, painted circles on it then had to hit each circle with a shot. Honestly it shouldn’t need Stevie to inspire them that drive to make yourself better should be in them all Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: With all respect that’s a load of bollocks. There is always chances to shoot from outside the box. But less than there used to be - oh and we do shoot more than folk acknowledge. Even our fans get really irate if we give other teams space to shoot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Smell the hotdog said: Liverpool had 36 shots on goal yesterday against Man Utd and we can’t find room to shoot against likes of Dundee and Hamilton?? Ok - and of those 36 shots - which I’m assuming were all outside the box - how many scored? Perhaps that’s why Man U lose so much they don’t close down quick enough. And if our defence allowed 36 shots we’d be raging! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,145 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Bring Albertz back and let him sit around 35 yards away from their keeper. Just lay the ball off for him time after time until der hammer hits der target. Failing that - has he got a son? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: Practice practice practice then some more practice. Just shooting practice isn't enough imo , our mf is weak , they would need strengh training etc too , but if they don't have the personal drive to have been doing that already , there's not much any coach can do imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 29 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Just shooting practice isn't enough imo , our mf is weak , they would need strengh training etc too , but if they don't have the personal drive to have been doing that already , there's not much any coach can do imo Shooting is all about technique rather than strength. Practice improves technique. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Shooting is all about technique rather than strength. Practice improves technique. You still need the power too get it there , our mf shots from distance resemble a pass back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,309 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Another thing I would say is I guess they are following the managers instructions with constantly going wide and not shooting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,295 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 It would be nice to have a player like Albertz back in the squad. That man put the fear into opposing teams. Would like to hear of suggestions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: You still need the power too get it there , our mf shots from distance resemble a pass back I've never seen a midfield like ours who can't put the laces through a ball. Ejaria was the worst at that. Couldn't burst a paper bag !! ger4life_1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheKingObv 10,599 Posted December 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, bluenoz said: I've never seen a midfield like ours who can't put the laces through a ball. Ejaria was the worst at that. Couldn't burst a paper bag !! Too many young players being taught that losing possession is the worst thing imaginable. Eliminates risk taking and leads to loads of pointless passing. Hadron Collider, crazy bob swollenbaws, 1690tamRFC and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Smell the hotdog said: Liverpool had 36 shots on goal yesterday against Man Utd and we can’t find room to shoot against likes of Dundee and Hamilton?? We don’t shoot enough when we get near goal. Two of Liverpool’s goals were deflected yesterday which is always likely to happen when teams park the bus. We need to get more shots in, doesn’t matter that they won’t all hit the target. Smell the hotdog and crazy bob swollenbaws 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossorange 696 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Pedro mendes was probably the last one we had who could hit a shot. Davis was pish at shooting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Why wouldn’t you want to shoot or play a great pass to create a goal ??? Baffling , what supporter if had a chance to be out there would constantly play five yard sideways pass when there was a chance to score a 25 yarder or create a goal , I know wee agree our quality is lacking but surly they can shoot towards the goals ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,584 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Grezda, Kent, Candeias, Jack, Arfield - they could practice for 6 hours a day every day and not one of the cunts could rifle a football the way that the OP is talking about. Lafferty and Tav are probably the only two in the squad capable of shooting from distance but neither fill you with that optimism that someone like Albertz filled you with when bearing down on goal 25-30 yards out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bluenoz said: I've never seen a midfield like ours who can't put the laces through a ball. Ejaria was the worst at that. Couldn't burst a paper bag !! Noticed Grezda done the same yesterday. He had a chance to put the laces through it and he opted for a side footed attempt instead. I think the players are scared to make a mistake and they go into their shell - more so at Ibrox and they play the safe ball all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowsBlue 329 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Halliday can strike a baw from distance but he only gets played at left back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bearsden bear said: Noticed Grezda done the same yesterday. He had a chance to put the laces through it and he opted for a side footed attempt instead. I think the players are scared to make a mistake and they go into their shell - more so at Ibrox and they play the safe ball all the time. Arfield did the same. Tried to curl it in the top corner with side foot. Put your laces through it and he scores 8 out of 10 times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,857 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: In the modern game there are less chances to shoot from outside the box - players know how to close down the space much better and this the space to shoot has to be created better - we managed a number of shooting attempts yesterday that were blocked of so far off target it was not worth shooting. Absolute guff. Even with good defenders you still get deflections and spills etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,857 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, andyhrfc said: We don’t shoot enough when we get near goal. Two of Liverpool’s goals were deflected yesterday which is always likely to happen when teams park the bus. We need to get more shots in, doesn’t matter that they won’t all hit the target. This 100% Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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