McEwan's Lager 30,504 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 The key games for me were the the home ones against Aberdeen, St Johnstone and Hibs. I can take draws away to Aberdeen and Hibs, and defeats to celtic realistically to a point. Livingston away is a result that all league winners have once a season. We can’t win every game. But the three games above were ones where we should have done better. If we had drawn with Aberdeen and beaten St Johnstone and Hibs we are only 3 points behind celtic. The Specky Forum Organiser and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Badger said: Last season we dropped points through being utter dross. This season we are dropping points through lack of cutting edge and, at times, a bit of bad luck. I'm not saying we have not been dross at times, we have - but you cannot play well every week, and at least when we play badly now we still look hard(ish) to beat. Our last good period - 2008-2011, Walter Smith was often criticised for delivering dross. However, my assessment, made with my eyes is we are far better than last year, and with a little bit more quality in the final third would be a fair few points better off. We are still not very good at finding ways to win games, when it clicks - we look great - but we can look out of ideas and laboured in the last third when it isn't going well. Partly a lack of quality, partly a lack of psyche, partly a lack of nous Gerrard said he wanted Ibrox to be a fortress and he wanted us to be ruthless in killing teams off. He has done well with his first objective but fallen short on the second on too many occassions where we should have gone for the jugular. Sort that and we are well on our way. Anyone not seeing a improvement is either a moron or a troll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,443 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 We have had a mentality problem since Walter left and we still haven't addressed it, add in an over reliance on Morelos to score I think that's why we haven't run them closer I think we are in a good position to have a real go next season though pollok-bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: We have had a mentality problem since Walter left and we still haven't addressed it, add in an over reliance on Morelos to score I think that's why we haven't run them closer I think we are in a good position to have a real go next season though I don't think we'll build a mentality until we get used to winning. I don't think we'll get used to winning until we have a bit better quality. 2 or 3 of the right signings, and I mean quality signings - not unearthed gems (long shots), or bargain buckets - and we will be sorted. Do we have the £10m we need though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,443 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Badger said: I don't think we'll build a mentality until we get used to winning. I don't think we'll get used to winning until we have a bit better quality. 2 or 3 of the right signings, and I mean quality signings - not unearthed gems (long shots), or bargain buckets - and we will be sorted. Do we have the £10m we need though? Yeah agree with that I actually think it's a different kind of problem than we've had in the last few years just now, in the past players just haven't cared, I think this lot do care but they start to believe their own hype after a few good results and expect to just have to turn up and the result will take care of itself. Hopefully they will realise ahead of next season that's not how it works up here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,604 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, thedarvelmarvel said: take into account the rest have better sides as well,m,well livi,killie hearts hibs are better also.appart from hamilton st mirren st johsto n u ok Rum Ham 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,133 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 16 hours ago, Vanoli said: A frustrating season is better than an embarrassing one. No one’s laughing anymore. We’re definitely on the right track. Good business at the top end of the pitch and we’ll be a very good side at this level. Mind all the shite memes from last season, such as "whits the goalie daein Tom" and countless ones about the pish Caixinha spoke? Can't recall seeing many from this season, I know that sounds silly, but stuff like that shows we're not a total laughing stock anymore. Vanoli 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,496 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Badger said: I don't think we'll build a mentality until we get used to winning. I don't think we'll get used to winning until we have a bit better quality. 2 or 3 of the right signings, and I mean quality signings - not unearthed gems (long shots), or bargain buckets - and we will be sorted. Do we have the £10m we need though? More to the point, can he be trusted to spend it right, he's spent 6mill on our defence and played a warburton signing, a loan and another warburton signing as part of his back 4, grezda is a disaster so far as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,496 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Bronzy said: Mind all the shite memes from last season, such as "whits the goalie daein Tom" and countless ones about the pish Caixinha spoke? Can't recall seeing many from this season, I know that sounds silly, but stuff like that shows we're not a total laughing stock anymore. No we aren't, however gerrard hasnt shown either that he can spend money on players of the quality we need, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 We have wasted a lot of money to be one point better than last season the filth are weaker and we should have been in a position to capitalize on that but we are not as Gerrard is learning the game as he goes. It's hard to blame Gerrard as we knew that was the case coming in. pollok-bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,344 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 This season is totally different. I no longer walk to Ibrox hoping we don’t let another record get broke, or hope the tarriers don’t take 5 off us again. I no longer go to Pittodrie or Hibs in fear that the team will crumble and be battered for 90 minutes. However I still know that perhaps we have a Livi result in us for example, which is fine as long as it’s once every 10-12 games. The major problem, which the majority of us have said for years is the lack of quality. Aberdeen at home, St Johnstone at home. 5 points dropped because the whole team didn’t turn up. Our players are good for a 7/10 in 7 games out of 10. What we need are 3 players who are a 9/10 in 9 out of 10 games. A player who can take a shot against packed defences or a player who can play through packed defenses as well. If we had that we’d IMO be 3 behind and on our way to the title. We’re sorely missing quality and it needs addressed this summer or we can forget stopping 9 or 10. I’m all for bringing in guys like Hastie etc but we need about a 9 million spend on 3 players who have been properly scouted etc Davy Vandenbroucke 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,365 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Bronzy said: Mind all the shite memes from last season, such as "whits the goalie daein Tom" and countless ones about the pish Caixinha spoke? Can't recall seeing many from this season, I know that sounds silly, but stuff like that shows we're not a total laughing stock anymore. A year ago the day, mingin. Davy Vandenbroucke 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I said earlier in this thread that comparisons with last season should not be made at the time of posting. You can't ridicule the amount of goals conceded over the entirety of last season, to what we have concede up until this point, because the season isn't over. Last March our record was pretty much the same (1 league point being the difference) but the wheels came off rapidly and Murty never made it beyond April. 10 goals were conceded in the final games against celtic and Hibs as his team totally capitulated. We have a tough away game at Parkhead looming. The top six split is still to happen and our record against those teams is very poor. There's nothing left to play for in terms of silverware but for Gerrard there's still a lot on the table. If we get embarrassed by celtic, if we keep dropping points consistently in the league, if we're no better off in terms of performance league or cup wise from a statistical point of view then where's the evidence we have improved. Some will say they can see the evidence visually in terms of our style but I counter will Walter Smith's overly defensive style that got results. Style doesn't matter, it's results, and Gerrard said as much in a resent interview. The OP said that Goss was a regular feature in last years team. Well, Dominic Ball was a regular feature for us when we beat celtic and he done his job against us tonight. To be clear, I don't rate Ball but it's about getting the most out of the players you have at your disposal. We should have enough to dispatch every other team in this country outwidth celtic and we're simply not doing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton2008 646 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Considering we beat a stronger Aberdeen side 3 times in two months last season and drew the 4th fixture with a weaker Rangers side tells me we are worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,496 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 On 11/03/2019 at 13:39, Prso's headband said: This season is totally different. I no longer walk to Ibrox hoping we don’t let another record get broke, or hope the tarriers don’t take 5 off us again. Well you bloody well should because i cannot remember the last time aberdeen beat us at ibrox twice in one season Bears r us, The Godfather and ForeverAndEver 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,713 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Both seasons over in March. Nothings changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,133 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, TMB said: I said earlier in this thread that comparisons with last season should not be made at the time of posting. You can't ridicule the amount of goals conceded over the entirety of last season, to what we have concede up until this point, because the season isn't over. Last March our record was pretty much the same (1 league point being the difference) but the wheels came off rapidly and Murty never made it beyond April. 10 goals were conceded in the final games against celtic and Hibs as his team totally capitulated. We have a tough away game at Parkhead looming. The top six split is still to happen and our record against those teams is very poor. There's nothing left to play for in terms of silverware but for Gerrard there's still a lot on the table. If we get embarrassed by celtic, if we keep dropping points consistently in the league, if we're no better off in terms of performance league or cup wise from a statistical point of view then where's the evidence we have improved. Some will say they can see the evidence visually in terms of our style but I counter will Walter Smith's overly defensive style that got results. Style doesn't matter, it's results, and Gerrard said as much in a resent interview. The OP said that Goss was a regular feature in last years team. Well, Dominic Ball was a regular feature for us when we beat celtic and he done his job against us tonight. To be clear, I don't rate Ball but it's about getting the most out of the players you have at your disposal. We should have enough to dispatch every other team in this country outwidth celtic and we're simply not doing that. "The OP"? Cheeky bastard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bronzy said: "The OP"? Cheeky bastard. The ‘Original Post’. It’s not a slight against you at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,365 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: Both seasons over in March. Nothings changed. Na, Warburton/Caixinha/Murty actually got us into April Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Na, Warburton/Caixinha/Murty actually got us into April I know you liked Murty. Murty’s 4-2-3-1 tore teams appart offensively. Our away record was the best in the decvision. We were weak in defense and that cost us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton2008 646 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Simple comparison... We beat the sheep last season 3 times and drew 1 time. They had a stronger squad then, and we had a weaker one. We have won 1, Drew 1, lost 1 in the league and been papped out 2 cups from them this season. Doesnt get much simpler than that. SG has come in and brought in 19 players, spent £3m on Goldson, god knows how many million on Barasic, Katic and Grezda. Coupled with Arfield, McGregor, Defoe and Davis wages.... This season has been an unmitigated failure and anybody who points to the European group stage run against 3 sides in utter chaos and we still didn’t get out the group is in cuckoo land. Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,206 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The comparisons are: we are still fuckin shite and have won fuck all again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose1986 703 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Well you bloody well should because i cannot remember the last time aberdeen beat us at ibrox twice in one season Apparently the first time the sheep have beat us 3 times in one season 😑 Hutton2008 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,133 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, TMB said: The ‘Original Post’. It’s not a slight against you at all. Shat it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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