At what point does gerrard become sackable

[Copland bear 7,966]

7 minutes ago, sassaaaa said:

Dont agree last paragraph CB , we dont have the players to win trophies.........

Get a good quality on the winger and only play with one winger and two up front most games, the tarriers are not much better that's what hurts so much, but they know how to get over the line,  We need to get that mentality installed in every Rangers player. 

A draw no matter who we play in our league is like a defeat and we have drawn far to many games , but out of all those games we have drawn how many should we have won ? 

Still not convinced about Gerrard when a very average Derek McInnes out foxes him time and again.  Would not put it past us getting a draw at the beggerdome to be honest as you never know which Rangers turns up these days  

[Malvern 11,329]

1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said:

"We need an experienced manager". 

Who is going to take the job if we sack people every 8-9 months? 

Where is the money coming from to buy said experience? 

Cunts are brain dead. 

I am just waiting for mcinnes or clarke to be mentioned for drawing with us.

Maybe Jose will be up for the job with fuck all in the buscuit tin, he did fantastic at United after all.

People seriously need to look at their reactions after a game, tomorrow it will be different but still waiting on a pissing post on every cunting player in the Bears Den tonight.

[bluedart1952 1,349]

1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

First up he shouldnt be before people think thats my point, however the excuse that its his first season, he needs time to make his own squad etc, surely they can only be used so long

Warburton got one transfer window for the premiership, and nowhere near the budget gerrard has gotten, yup he made an arse of it but still it was one window

Pedro got one window to build his team and clear us of the players not good enough from warburtons era, again, while he was backed more than Warburton it still wasnt to gerrards level

Gerrard has had two windows now and a greater budget, the european run has earned him leeway just and no more, but even then thats wearing thin

We are no better in the league now than we were under the previous 2, teams do not fear us, they suss us out before we suss ourselves out, and they know our tactics will not change

 

How long does it take to build a team, quite a few on here think it will happen instantly by changing manager every season because they weren't successful. Going by this thought Man United should have sacked Sir Alex Ferguson after his first season, but they didn't, and the rest is history. SG deserves time to build a team and should be backed by the fans. The other  thing is, it's not just the other teams we're up against but the corrupt sfa/spfl and the taig media. 

[billscott 2,463]

1 hour ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Warburton never had 3 windows, what player of Premier league title winning quality would come to us while in the championship ffs

Also pedro got binned after drawing 1-1 at home to killie, gerrards done that twice now

dont think pedro got binned for drawing 1 1 with killie thats being a bit weird with the truth

[Copland bear 7,966]

10 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said:

"We need an experienced manager". 

Who is going to take the job if we sack people every 8-9 months? 

Where is the money coming from to buy said experience? 

Cunts are brain dead. 

The first line above is maybe is what Dave King should have thought after the whole fiasco of appointing Pedro who should not even have got a bloody interview.  

Gerrarc was always a big risk and one a lot of us thought we could not take when we first heard as his name had never really been mentioned to just before he signed.  

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,493]

1 hour ago, Courtyard Bear said:

Don’t think the faults stack against him, he he brought players in that he thought were up to the job. 

I think he’s realised now what it takes to be a Rangers player. 

I dont think he has given mccrorie hasnt kicked a ball in weeks, our results with mccrorie have been fantastic, without have been really poor

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,749]

Sacking Gerrard at this point achieves nothing.

Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it and all that and yet amazingly there are still some people who think we will sack Gerrard and replace him with a better manager who will wave a magic wand and sort us out in less than a year even though we’ve tried this strategy three times now.

Warburton, Caixinha & Murty were all diddies but rather than say “what about Warbs, what about Pedro” why don’t we learn from that and say sacking managers every 9 months isn’t working so let’s hold course and give Gerrard a bit more time to implement the changes that we still need to make.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,493]

1 minute ago, billscott said:

dont think pedro got binned for drawing 1 1 with killie thats being a bit weird with the truth

No but it was the final straw, gerrard must be running out of straws by now given our results against the top 6

[Copland bear 7,966]

Just now, Jimbeamjunior said:

I dont think he has given mccrorie hasnt kicked a ball in weeks, our results with mccrorie have been fantastic, without have been really poor

We we just inconsistent, you never know which team is gonna turn up these days. Teams know now sit in and get physical 

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,493]

Just now, DBBTB said:

Sacking Gerrard at this point achieves nothing.

Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it and all that and yet amazingly there are still some people who think we will sack Gerrard and replace him with a better manager who will wave a magic wand and sort us out in less than a year even though we’ve tried this strategy three times now.

Warburton, Caixinha & Murty were all diddies but rather than say “what about Warbs, what about Pedro” why don’t we learn from that and say sacking managers every 9 months isn’t working so let’s hold course and give Gerrard a bit more time to implement the changes that we still need to make.

Those who dont learn from history are destined to repeat it, gerrard clearly isn't learning given the same failings we see every game 

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,493]

1 hour ago, BridgeIsBlue said:

Jan 2016 then the following summer. 

My mistake I've already had two tonic today

Only 2, that performance today warrants another 3

[Amato 3,016]

15 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Defoe is a good finisher but a complete luxury.

In the existing set-up you might be right. I did find it an odd signing at the time, purely because of how we play and Morelos being undroppable

[ForeverAndEver 71,363]

He’s learned fuck all

Also, what general question here, what constitutes a winner because that’s all I see him described as?

[billscott 2,463]

Just now, Jimbeamjunior said:

No but it was the final straw, gerrard must be running out of straws by now given our results against the top 6

i keep saying we will get nowhere till we get 2 full backs that can defend and most importantly some physical strength in midfield we have to start cpmpeting physically  most teams  in scotland are full of tough tackling players look at our midfield today all nice players but probably would struggle to tackle a fish supper

[Copland bear 7,966]

9 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

Sacking Gerrard at this point achieves nothing.

Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it and all that and yet amazingly there are still some people who think we will sack Gerrard and replace him with a better manager who will wave a magic wand and sort us out in less than a year even though we’ve tried this strategy three times now.

Warburton, Caixinha & Murty were all diddies but rather than say “what about Warbs, what about Pedro” why don’t we learn from that and say sacking managers every 9 months isn’t working so let’s hold course and give Gerrard a bit more time to implement the changes that we still need to make.

You can't call Murty and expecially Pedro a managers ffs.  Maybe if they gave Warburton the money Pedro spunked and the budget Gerrard had we would be above a sub standard celtic team?  Let's be honest they have been there for the taking this season. 

[BlueMe 25,327]

At the start of the season, if you had offered me second in the league and reaching the groups of the Europa league, all thing's considered, I'd have taken it and seen that as a relatively successful season because we're clearly making progress from previous seasons.

You're delusional if you think any manager (let alone an inexperienced manager in their first job, coming into a club in disarray that's needing practically a full new squad) is going to come in and do much better than Gerrard has. 

We need to add a few quality players, that's obvious to anyone watching us at the moment and Gerrard said as much himself. He deserves the chance to add them, imo.

 

 

[Hadron Collider 30,780]

22 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said:

ANY MANAGER AT ANY CLUB IS ALWAYS STACKABLE.  NOW IS NIT THE TINE TI SACK SG.

US THIS PISH NEEDED EVERY WEEK

😂 😂. 

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,493]

1 minute ago, billscott said:

i keep saying we will get nowhere till we get 2 full backs that can defend and most importantly some physical strength in midfield we have to start cpmpeting physically  most teams  in scotland are full of tough tackling players look at our midfield today all nice players but probably would struggle to tackle a fish supper

Physical strength in midfield, mccrorie doesnt even get a squad place last tuesday night 

In the OF game mccrorie contested 5 balls in the air, he won all 5 of the duels, he is easily our most aggressive and toughest midfielder and it drives a performance out of the rest of them

[Copland bear 7,966]

6 minutes ago, Amato said:

In the existing set-up you might be right. I did find it an odd signing at the time, purely because of how we play and Morelos being undroppable

How do you think Lafferty feels? We should have left him at Hearts as he took more points of the tarriers as was a constant thorn in their side , yet we play 1 up top with the quality we have ?   We should be blown teams away with the class we have in our forwards but the whole system in geared around Kent and Candeias and 2 wide.  

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,493]

1 minute ago, BlueMe said:

At the start of the season, if you had offered me second in the league and reaching the groups of the Europa league, all thing's considered, I'd have taken it and seen that as a relatively successful season because we're clearly making progress from previous seasons.

You're delusional if you think any manager (let alone an inexperienced manager in their first job, coming into a club in disarray that's needing practically a full new squad) is going to come in do much better than Gerrard has. 

We need to add a few quality players, that's obvious to anyone watching us at the moment and Gerrard said as much himself. He deserves the chance to add them, imo.

 

 

Why does he deserve the chance to add them, he spent what, over 6mill on our defence last summer, and yet he starts with 2 warburton signings and a loan player in his back 4

He spunked 2mill on a winger and starts with a pedro signing and a loan, his striker signings have been abysmal

[billscott 2,463]

1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Physical strength in midfield, mccrorie doesnt even get a squad place last tuesday night 

In the OF game mccrorie contested 5 balls in the air, he won all 5 of the duels, he is easily our most aggressive and toughest midfielder and it drives a performance out of the rest of them

i agree  i said the same in another thread  yesterday after the celtic game gerrard said he was like an animal correct me if i am wrong but has he started a game since  it does not make sense

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,493]

Just now, Copland bear said:

How do you think Lafferty feel? Should have left him at Hearts as he took more points of the tarriers as was a constant thorn in their side , yet we play 1 up top with the quality we have ?   We should be blown teams away with the class we have in our forwards but the whole system in geared around Kent and Candeias and 2 wide.  

Worryingly our system seems to be get morelos to take the ball, hold it up and lay it off to try get the wingers in behind, they then hit the byline to find morelos 20 yards behind them, so they hold it up and bang, 8 opponents make it back before we get support in the box

[billscott 2,463]

1 minute ago, Copland bear said:

How do you think Lafferty feel? Should have left him at Hearts as he took more points of the tarriers as was a constant thorn in their side , yet we play 1 up top with the quality we have ?   We should be blown teams away with the class we have in our forwards but the whole system in geared around Kent and Candeias and 2 wide.  

lafferty more or less played up on his own at hearts the difference being he had naismith  to create  the openings for him and supply the craft whether people like him or not we do not have a player with a football brain like naismith

[Copland bear 7,966]

4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Worryingly our system seems to be get morelos to take the ball, hold it up and lay it off to try get the wingers in behind, they then hit the byline to find morelos 20 yards behind them, so they hold it up and bang, 8 opponents make it back before we get support in the box

Look at Candeias ball across to Morelos - Kent Tuesday night in the first half when we nicked it off them , a simple square ball in and he hits it so hard it hits a cunt in the west enclosure ?  Things like tha change games and a quality winger and your getting a shot in or squaring it for one of the ither 2 to smash it home , it pishing down so don't whack the bloody thing ffs as it just skids of the surface 

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

Depends how the rest of this season goes tbh. We're slowly falling from fighting for the title to fighting for 2nd place again and didn't even get as far as Hampden before fucking up the Scottish Cup this season.

We've not won any of our last 4 games and since beating the taigs in December, a game that was supposed to put us right back in contention for the title, we've dropped 9 points in as many games. The honeymoon period is over.