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I can't see any logic in offering Davis a contract. He's here when we have a half fit Arfield and a half fit Jack and he doesn't get in the team. McCrorie plays yesterday, Kamara is the 1st midfield sub. Davis must be 5-6th choice just now and that's before we sign anyone in the summer. 

I can only think the strange situation when he signed (18 month permanent deal suddenly becoming a 6 months loan) means we committed to keeping him next year at the outset and don't want to renege on that. 

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2 minutes ago, Lloyd said:

Because he generally offers very little when he starts. He’s like playing a goal up but a man down. 

We have a decent record with 10 men or less. We should take the goal advantage and start Defoe every game.

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31 minutes ago, gazza27 said:

Defoe won't be our main striker next season fs

Really wouldn't be surprised if he was, if Morelos goes it's not going to be Lafferty, he's a backup at best.

Basically pinning our hopes on us finding a ready made striker who can walk straight into our team, not going to be easy. Defoe will look like a good option and we buy somebody younger who we bed in slowly. 

 

 

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You haven't thought about this one much?

Davis can go, if that's even an option? Doubt Southampton are going say yeah fuck it well cover his wages for a few months while he trains with the under 18s.

Defoe is in the same boat but actually offers something and with Morelos out, even if sending him back was an option, you couldn't think of a worse time to do it!

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Neither should have been signed. Davis because his legs are gone and we don’t seemed to have learned the lesson that 30 plus midfield players do not stroll this league. Defoe because his style of game does not suit our play for the whole 90 minutes. Heaven forbid we give youth a chance. Hardie could have been recalled.

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1 hour ago, The Dude said:

Unless Southampton and Bouremouth are willing to terminate them early then we'll still be on the hook for their wages. Given we're in talks with Davis over a permanent deal then I'd say there's absolutely no chance of ending his deal early only to sign him permanently in 12 weeks.

Surely you jest about a permanent deal for Davis. 

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Davis is a holding player and that doesn’t fit in with our current style - our midfield are currently set up for attacking, that might change. 

Defoe hasn’t had a decent run of games to show what he can do. He’s a quality player, we just can’t get the most out of him. 

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2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Davis is a holding player and that doesn’t fit in with our current style - our midfield are currently set up for attacking, that might change. 

Defoe hasn’t had a decent run of games to show what he can do. He’s a quality player, we just can’t get the most out of him. 

Is it? Because to me Kamara, Jack & McCrorie are all more defensively minded midfielders too and that’s been one of our biggest problems all season.

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1 minute ago, DBBTB said:

Is it? Because to me Kamara, Jack & McCrorie are all more defensively minded midfielders too and that’s been one of our biggest problems all season.

For me, since warburton came in and since he left we’ve had an attacking midfield set up. 

If they are defensive then they are failing massively at that task. 

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Getting rid of Defoe, in general, would be crazy. As mentioned his goal return for the amount of minutes he's played has been really good. We should be asking questions of the manager why he continues to misuse him and play him as a single striker which he's never been good at. Get someone in who can play beside him and he'll batter goals in for us.

With the games Kent and Morelos are out for the manager should consider trying a 3-5-2 and attempt to strike up some kind of partnership with him and Lafferty.

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1 hour ago, Bakbear said:

Us in talks with Davis for a permanent deal is the worst news of the whole weekend. 

He has made zero impact on loan and he is only going to deteriorate. 

We need forward thinking for next year. 

Get rid, well passed it

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4 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

Is it? Because to me Kamara, Jack & McCrorie are all more defensively minded midfielders too and that’s been one of our biggest problems all season.

They are all the same type of player. Win you the ball but don't offer a lot going foward. 

We need 2 midfielders that can contribute in the final 3rd. Playmaker to open teams up and attacking midfielder that can drive at opposition and offer a goal threat. Kill for a midfielder that can shoot from outside the box.

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