stevemac 4,998 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Rangers have appointed Steve Doyle as Lead Technical Scout with the club aiming to increase the efficiency of its scouting process. Doyle joins from Derby County, where he has spent the last 12 and-a-half-years, with his most recent role being the First Team Opposition Technical Analyst under manager Frank Lampard. As well as Lampard, Doyle has worked with the likes of Gary Rowett, Paul Clement and Steve McLaren, and, of course, was a part of the backroom staff who this season helped Derby reach the Championship play-off final. Doyle’s new job at the Hummel Training Centre will have a particular focus on video scouting, and he will report into Head of Scouting Andy Scoulding. On the appointment, Scoulding commented: “Our department is based on three core principles; eyes, video and data. Essentially it’s about thinking and working in a smart, productive and modern way. “Our eyes are the scouts who go to games – guys like Bomber [John Brown] who know what it is to play for the club, who can spot talent and can use their network to help bring them to our attention. “Video scouting is a huge part of a modern scouting process and it allows us to be more efficient with our resources. We can watch more games in a shorter period of time, helping us to make quicker, more informed decisions. “Finally, we have data. Data is an increasingly important part of what we do. It’s about bringing a level of objectivity to our processes and it’s about supporting decisions both positively and negatively. Good scouting isn’t just about bringing in good players; it’s about filtering out the bad ones. Data allows us to do this. “The most important thing to say above all is no one part of the process is more important than the other. All three core elements have their place and all three can lead or support the process at any one time. “As a department our job is to provide the manager with options and the Director of Football with a body of evidence as to why an individual can come in and play and win for Rangers Football Club. “Steve’s addition reinforces and improves our ability to do just that. His skillset and experiences made him a standout choice and I’m hugely excited we have been able to secure his services. He will work closely with our scouts and data scientist and I’m positive he will make a big contribution to the club going forwards.” Teddybear123 and SonOfLuther 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,569 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 So he scouted Waghorn then! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Fascinating and interesting. This looks like its a brand new job that's been created. If is a newly created job then one inference could be that this 'Lead Technical Scout' role of emphasis on video analysis either wasn't being done properly before and that the deficiency is now being rectified......with a wrapping of modern management-speak to help explain things. Would be interesting to know what measures of success exist for Scoulding's scouting system. The costs and overheads of employment etc will be readily calculable by the Club......but what are the measures of value they generate / the measures of success? (So that the Company can assess over reasonable time whether value for money is being generated by the actions of the Scoulding team). Or is it really a case of these sorts of fancy jobs being created in a modern big football club because they just have to be created as if you don't have these sorts of jobs then the club falls behind in modern football management trends. So that objective assessment of value for money and success in scouting operations becomes a secondary matter or not even a consideration at all. Its the sort of thing shareholders might be interested in at annual general meetings as back-office departments have very tangible costs associated with creating and operating them...…..and the questions would include do they do enough to bring success - and added value - to the Club and Company. But in this King Concert Party dominated era we are about to enter into that sort of close questioning of the extent to which back office functions deliver good enough value is one which may be quietly sidestepped or ignored for the foreseeable future. In the meantime it may be useful if the Club would, from time to time, publish measures of performance for the scouting department or failing that qualitative statements explaining how well the scouting department is doing. Not to do so invites the Support and shareholders to draw their own conclusions on the evidence of the players who are brought in who then are shown to be patently unsuitable for Rangers or unable to perform to Rangers' expectations......which in turn begs questions about the efficiency and effectiveness of the scouting department. There's a long enough list even from the start of last season of players that did not (do not) cut the mustard for Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 More staff? But Admin 2 is looming!! BouncyBluenose87 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Aye but is Jimmy Bell happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,622 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Quite an empire we're creating in the scouting / technical side of things. Not that that's a bad thing, more that it's important they get more right and do it quicker than we have previously. Blumhoilann 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,114 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Another good signing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy666 2,880 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Obligatory pic of his missus Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,210 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Will lead technically for fun up here. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 A mate of mine is called Steve Doyle....jist sayin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burts91 427 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Don't know how I feel hiring a scout who doesn't have a very good history of scouting players (for Derby). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burts91 427 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Just re-read, doesn't appear to have been a scout previously. Apologies :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncyBluenose87 1,558 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, coopsleftboot said: More staff? But Admin 2 is looming!! Good point...Jackie McNamara says so too, so it must be true... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 We have come a long way from s - forms as schoolboys. If they had video and data on me back then, they could have saved a lot of wasted energy. Good to see we are moving forward with the games technology. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, bluenoz said: We have come a long way from s - forms as schoolboys. If they had video and data on me back then, they could have saved a lot of wasted energy. Good to see we are moving forward with the games technology. So you were rubbish then bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,805 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Can never have too many scouts. The hours they put in to come up with Steve Davis, Defoe, Jordan Jones, Jake Hastie etc.. HG5 and Escobar 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,755 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Iggy666 said: Obligatory pic of his missus I work with her brother 😊 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I don't mean to sound morbid, but is related to the late celtic player Johnny Doyle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertzLoyalRSC 18,055 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, foghorn leghorn said: I don't mean to sound morbid, but is related to the late celtic player Johnny Doyle? No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn leghorn 608 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 minute ago, AlbertzLoyalRSC said: No. What, sound morbid or related to J Doyle? 🐕 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,977 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 10 hours ago, stevemac said: Rangers have appointed Steve Doyle as Lead Technical Scout with the club aiming to increase the efficiency of its scouting process. Doyle joins from Derby County, where he has spent the last 12 and-a-half-years, with his most recent role being the First Team Opposition Technical Analyst under manager Frank Lampard. As well as Lampard, Doyle has worked with the likes of Gary Rowett, Paul Clement and Steve McLaren, and, of course, was a part of the backroom staff who this season helped Derby reach the Championship play-off final. Doyle’s new job at the Hummel Training Centre will have a particular focus on video scouting, and he will report into Head of Scouting Andy Scoulding. On the appointment, Scoulding commented: “Our department is based on three core principles; eyes, video and data. Essentially it’s about thinking and working in a smart, productive and modern way. “Our eyes are the scouts who go to games – guys like Bomber [John Brown] who know what it is to play for the club, who can spot talent and can use their network to help bring them to our attention. “Video scouting is a huge part of a modern scouting process and it allows us to be more efficient with our resources. We can watch more games in a shorter period of time, helping us to make quicker, more informed decisions. “Finally, we have data. Data is an increasingly important part of what we do. It’s about bringing a level of objectivity to our processes and it’s about supporting decisions both positively and negatively. Good scouting isn’t just about bringing in good players; it’s about filtering out the bad ones. Data allows us to do this. “The most important thing to say above all is no one part of the process is more important than the other. All three core elements have their place and all three can lead or support the process at any one time. “As a department our job is to provide the manager with options and the Director of Football with a body of evidence as to why an individual can come in and play and win for Rangers Football Club. “Steve’s addition reinforces and improves our ability to do just that. His skillset and experiences made him a standout choice and I’m hugely excited we have been able to secure his services. He will work closely with our scouts and data scientist and I’m positive he will make a big contribution to the club going forwards.” I read that as our scouts are pish, we're getting someone in who knows what modern scouting is about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,082 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: Can never have too many scouts. The hours they put in to come up with Steve Davis, Defoe, Jordan Jones, Jake Hastie etc.. 😂 Seems like he’s seen a few managers off in his time, too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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