bluenoz 30,641 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Broxi said: Jack should be 5th choice CM. Aribo, Kamara, Arfield, Davis then Jack. One of Aribo's strengths is winning the ball back and being difficult to beat so we won't lose Jack, especially with Kamara there too, and Aribo will give us far far more going forward than Jack would. I like Jack but I no longer think he should be a guaranteed starter. Competition is fierce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,473 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, tm91 said: Aribo may end up in an Arfield-like role as an inside forward for all we know. It's too early to tell. My suspicion is that Davis will be rested for smaller games and that Kamara will drop back into that role rather than Jack. Either way there will be lots of rotation and they'll all see a lot of game time. Jack may come in for the tough games - European away games, Mordor etc. Gerrard trusts him and he provides a certain solidity the others don't. He won't though he's not that type of player at all Sash tap 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 3,983 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Jack can be hit or miss for me. On his day he can be outstanding but can have absolute stinkers where he is anonymous. If he becomes a wee bit more consistent it will take him to the next level. Never liked him as a defensive midfielder. Prefer him out the pocket and getting in the oppositions face. Played his best football with McCrorie behind him and started to chip in with goals, assists and was the guy feeding more creative players such as Kent. However, the manager seemed to hit the right balance with the 3 central midfielders. It meant that because we had so many numbers we didn't necesarily need Jack (or McCrorie) there to specifically sit in front if the back 4 as well as teams struggking to get the ball of us. I can see the manager using all of our central midfielders this season with the amount of games we'll have if our Euro campaign is successful. I'm genuinely quite excited to see the combo of Davis, Jack and Kamara in Europe. Sash tap 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,473 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, tm91 said: Maybe not exactly as Arfield but pushed up as part of a three more generally, or maybe as the head of a diamond instead, or whatever. The point being that Gerrard might tweak things further. I didn't really expect Arfield to be so good in his new role either. Arfield often used to play wide right in a 4-2-3-1 formation or similar though. Aribo is not a wide player or even an attacking/creative CM. He's more of a good version of Ejaria crossed with Kamara tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidorfc 6,665 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I've been awake for nearly 3 days straight and I'm struggling to think who you meam by Kauy. Who is it? Must mean Dirk Kuyt lol BlueSuedeSambas, ForeverAndEver and Straight-Edge-Loyal 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-Gazza genius 1,902 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 It will be interesting to see who he picks for the centre of midfield as we'll probably end up going back to our 4-3-3/4-5-1 formation. With ojo joining and probably having the same clause in his contract as Worrall and Kent last season he'll be a starter, also the possibility of Kent coming back means he'll no doubt start as well so we'll have 3 positions to pick from Davis/Kamara/Jack/Arfield/Aribo and that's before we include McCrorie/Halliday/Docherty/Rossiter. I think Jack is decent on the ball but I'm not overly convinced he's good enough to start every week. I'm more interested to see what happens with McCrorie as in my eyes he's the destroyer type of midfielder we need and he'll need regular game time this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,086 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Vanoli said: All 4 will play 30-40 games at least. Long season ahead. Pretty much this . There'll be a bit of squad rotation , where I see Jack playing in the games where we will be under a bit more pressure and we'll have to defend a bit more . glasgow argyle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,762 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Think the midfield will be set-up like this. Davis Kamara Aribo Arfield Kent Possibly Arfield switching with Aribo. In the interview on sky yesterday Gerrard spoke about Aribo bringing a balance to the midfield because he is left sided. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewaj3 1,444 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Presuming we stick with the tactics towards the end of the season Three from Jack Davis Kamara, Arfield and aribo Two from Ojo, Jones, Candeias, Stewart and Arfield Basing this on Hastie, Middleton and mccrorie going on loan. Holt, dorrans and grezda look like they are on the way out The likes of halliday, rossiter and Murphy surely won't get much game time? Especially if Kent comes in. Think candeias will have a reduced role this season too. Question is.... Is that midfield good enough to win the league? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I think Jamie Murphy will get a lot of game time assuming he’s fully recovered from his knee injury Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,700 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I've been awake for nearly 3 days straight and I'm struggling to think who you meam by Kauy. Who is it? Kuyt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,700 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, lidorfc said: Must mean Dirk Kuyt lol I did Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,681 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Kuyt. Fair enough insomnia is a cunt of a thing it just wouldn't click who you meant at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,513 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 9 hours ago, SK RFC said: There will be a slight rotation most weeks. Absolutely no need for jack, kamara and Davis as our midfield at home to st Mirren etc for example. Strongest 11 everytime, no ifs buts or maybe’s we must do over everyone. It’s a HUGE season for us Straight-Edge-Loyal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 81,942 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I really enjoyed the AC Milan comparisons Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I think there is a place for jack against sides that entry to win against us. Think he’ll be key in Europe especially as that break up play type and make the simple passes. do I think he’s the next Barry Ferguson? No but I think he’s a decent option for us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, KeyserSoze said: Strongest 11 everytime, no ifs buts or maybe’s we must do over everyone. It’s a HUGE season for us True... But won't be the same players every time. Knocks, injury, fatigue means players will need rested at various times. Then up to the incumbent to hit form to maintain place and keep previous "strongest" out. A big name, big wage or previous form shouldn't mean you're in our strongest 11. Only current form and fitness should. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,513 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: True... But won't be the same players every time. Knocks, injury, fatigue means players will need rested at various times. Then up to the incumbent to hit form to maintain place and keep previous "strongest" out. A big name, big wage or previous form shouldn't mean you're in our strongest 11. Only current form and fitness should. I agree but the poster was alluding to players being rotated against “weaker” teams. Of course injuries, fatigue etc come into it but if our best players have none of that then they should play whoever the opposition is. coopsleftboot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,681 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: I really enjoyed the AC Milan comparisons Thanks was going to go for lyon but I couldn't spell Kalstrom properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,384 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 10 hours ago, bluenoz said: Calling Kamara a reject is pathetic. You think you a Rangers diehard but your rhetoric is pathetic! Maybe trying saying Dundees loss and our gain. You seem upset Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Jeffrey said: You seem upset One simple question. Why do you generate conflict in every thread you post in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Looked much better when Davis got up to full speed , went back to 5 yard square pass mediocrity again the last game when Davis was out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,384 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, bordersbear said: One simple question. Why do you generate conflict in every thread you post in? Another one of the 'Dave' is king brigade. Shame on you for being so blinded. One day you will see the errors of your way. Then again, maybe not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Just now, Jeffrey said: Another one of the 'Dave' is king brigade. Shame on you for being so blinded. Then again, maybe not. That's exactly what I mean. You can't even answer a simple question. Not one mention of Dave or King anywhere. In fact it started by you calling Kamara a Dundee reject. Now all you are doing is making a fool of yourself as usual by trying to be clever. Another simple question. When do you start high school? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,384 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, bordersbear said: That's exactly what I mean. You can't even answer a simple question. Not one mention of Dave or King anywhere. In fact it started by you calling Kamara a Dundee reject. Now all you are doing is making a fool of yourself as usual by trying to be clever. Another simple question. When do you start high school? Dave or King Head in the sand comes to mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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