The Dude 20,026 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: we’re defo being targeted but throw bottles and you get a free pass 🤬 Those are literally the rules we signed up to. First offence under article 14 - section closure. second offence - stadium closure and 50k fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, don logan said: It's UEFA's competition and they make the rules. You either abide by them or pay the consequences. Simple. Yeah. We can't fight the rules, the time for lobbying is long gone IMO. People either adjust or continue to damage the club. With fans actually missing out now you've got to think those that sing the songs will sit up and notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,453 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 As anger inducing as this is I unfortunately think we're going to have to play the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I agree with this. But we dont know specifically the term or song which has been deemed illegal. The club needs to be absolutely clear on what cannot be sung (regardless of whether we think it's fair or not) because if they dont, then something could still cause offence to result in a charge. The problem is that you are NEVER going to be given a list of songs that can't be sung. The rules are vague for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 No read the full thread wtf have we said that's racist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, KingKirk said: No read the full thread wtf have we said that's racist? Nothing but people have read part of something, read the word racist and got all offended. Ironically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Rolle 514 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: I’m liking the post for the effort of replying with a GIF, even though you probably don’t agree with me 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I agree with this. But we dont know specifically the term or song which has been deemed illegal. The club needs to be absolutely clear on what cannot be sung (regardless of whether we think it's fair or not) because if they dont, then something could still cause offence to result in a charge. I'd imagine mate, singing about being up to our knees in fenian blood, or fenian bastards, as much as we all like to sing it,is now going to get Rangers into serious trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I agree with this. But we dont know specifically the term or song which has been deemed illegal. The club needs to be absolutely clear on what cannot be sung (regardless of whether we think it's fair or not) because if they dont, then something could still cause offence to result in a charge. Anything about Fenians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Leeds_Bear said: Ffs man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Gman36 said: As anger inducing as this is I unfortunately think we're going to have to play the game We've got no other option. If we want to play in these competitions we have to play by the rules. It might get to the stage where the sale of tickets to these games is restricted heavily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Nothing but people have read part of something, read the word racist and got all offended. Ironically. So wtf is it then singing songs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,264 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, gogzy said: The problem is that you are NEVER going to be given a list of songs that can't be sung. The rules are vague for a reason. We havent even been informed of the exact nature of the offence we've been found guilty of though. Which term? Which song? Its not too much to ask for from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Blueteeth said: I respect your opinion mate, but at the end of the day it is energy wasted for zero reason. If we had a chance of changing things and our fans were able to work toward some kind of even handedness then fine, but nothing ever happens. The one thing we can really do is forget about everyone else, and make sure no one can fuck us over by doing what the club asks us to. Mate I’m a stubborn cunt (i know it’s hard to believe) and all I ask is, if your making a rule then it applies to all. If your going to pick and choose when to apply it then I’m sorry but you can shove your rules where the sun don’t shine. Dont sing it change a word, but it sticks in my throat when the organisation that continually report us are run by ST holders of Scum Fc and proven bigots who will simply move on to the next target word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: We havent even been informed of the exact nature of the offence we've been found guilty of though. Which term? Which song? Its not too much to ask for from the club. That's a fair question to ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, James Rolle said: I’m liking the post for the effort of replying with a GIF, even though you probably don’t agree with me 😂 I get your sentiment mate. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,780 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: We havent even been informed of the exact nature of the offence we've been found guilty of though. Which term? Which song? Its not too much to ask for from the club. If FARE were there and I believe they were then there was a huge rendition of TBB it will be that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,253 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: UEFA seem to be determined to conflate sectarianism and racism when they are in fact two completely different things ... can we not put this before a court to get the matter sorted out once and for all? Will never happen. It’s a really harsh punishment for a first offence. Flares, failures in crowd control & displaying political banners to seem to attract multiple fines even for clubs who ignore warnings and re-offend year after year, but to go straight in with this punishment for some unsavoury words in songs sung by a minority of fans is completely over the top imo. UEFA like so many big organisations have their priorities all wrong. Also I would have liked to hear the club at least make some kind of statement in support of the huge majority of fans and question both the timing and wording of the uefa statement - instead of throwing us all under the bus, but again that would never happen. They only want our money, they don’t give a shit about us otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Rfc52 said: If FARE were there and I believe they were then there was a huge rendition of TBB it will be that Fare are always there it’s there mission statement to follow Rangers around Europe and report report report on anything we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, KingKirk said: So wtf is it then singing songs? Aye. UEFA's article on discriminatory chants include a reference to racism in the title although the charge irself specifically mentions sectatian songs. We've been pulled for singing about fenians after being told not to sing about fenians yet continuing to sing about fenians. And some still want to cry foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 107,780 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: Fare are always there it’s there mission statement to follow Rangers around Europe and report report report on anything we do. Think the cunts only attend our games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseboy 1,563 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 A paedophile ring is in operation across the city, fuck all done. They openly use the word “ H**”, fuck all done. They display banners with the word “ H**” , fuck all done. They use the word “ fenian” , fuck all done. They attack opposition players on the pitch, fuck all done. They constantly mock the “ 66”, fuck all done. The list goes on. We use the word” fenian”, we get hammered. Make no mistakes, they are in bed with “ fare”. The only bigoted club in the land is them, but they have friends in high places. We shouldn’t expect any help from uefa as I would suspect that a lot of them are involved with paedopilia, also. This could well be a tipping point for our support, which is sick to death of the constant attacks on our club, whilst the scum get away with everything. It’s probably due to the rise of the far left, and the desperate attempt to appease them at every turn. It seems that Europe and it’s peoples are waking up to it though, and there will be some serious unrest to come soon. There is only so much people will take before real, concrete action is taken. The Scottish media and the SNP will also be heavily involved in this action against us, make no mistake. I’m not a violent person per se, but sometimes it is the only action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,264 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, 2nd Flute said: I'd imagine mate, singing about being up to our knees in fenian blood, or fenian bastards, as much as we all like to sing it,is now going to get Rangers into serious trouble. And I'd get and agree with it. But why wouldnt the club inform fans that the term fenian / fenian with add ons/ fenian blood sung in a specific song was the one that caused the issue? Why would the club leave it ambiguous, wang us to stop something without telling us what this time we've been found guilty of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,137 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Another fucking thing surely this never just came out the blue, the club must have known about this before today but still yesterday sold me another two tickets for BF1 no chance did they not know yesterday this could happen ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, Rfc52 said: Think the cunts only attend our games Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s spot on, you can bet when the list of games they want to attend is drawn up we are always top of the list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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