Union Bears

[Gman36 3,455]

After all the shite we've been through its galling to see our yellow bellied senior management roll over and surrender in things like this.

Yet on the other side of the coin get into petty, costly long term battles with the likes of cashley which actually further damage us. 

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

Haven't read all of this but it seems to me that the divisions within our ranks are exactly why 'the haters' will always win.

The last time we stood together was 2012 to save our Club,it's time we got that spirit back again,starting wi the Board.

The UEFA punishment should have been challenged or at least clarification demanded but sadly not,for me this is seen as weakness by not only our 'haters' but also by our own support.

[ChampionsAgain 1,373]

2 hours ago, Sket said:

Was Ibrox a library prior to 2007? I'm right behind the UB on this but this myth that they ARE the atmosphere is fucking nonsense. The majority of them weren't even born while Ibrox was rocking on European nights/old firms etc.

Aye, but as you point out European nights/old firms. What about the other 90% of the games? 

Union bears are consistent every game, whether the rest of the stadium joins in or not is a completely different story.

[B1872 20,654]

Everytime the Union Bears have done a silent process (Hearts 2018, Sheep in first half of Scottish Cup quarter final) the atmosphere has been terrible. Fucking murder being able to hear the players talking etc. The Union Bears have been totally shafted on this and are being made to being scapegoats.

It's been the majority singing the Billy Boys not just them and I'm not convinced they started it either!

[Sket 13,610]

10 minutes ago, ChampionsAgain said:

Aye, but as you point out European nights/old firms. What about the other 90% of the games? 

Union bears are consistent every game, whether the rest of the stadium joins in or not is a completely different story.

So there have been many times prior to the UB being formed where Ibrox has been rocking.  Glad you agree.

[gj923 1,457]

2 hours ago, Blue Avenger said:

Pish. They did what they always do. Sit on it and hope it goes away. If not, they can always blame the fans. Cue! Not a fucking brain cell between them and delinquent in their duties.

Never one to support the board but we don’t know what the initial report mentioned and if it included potential sanctions. Also who was made aware of it on the board? We where fined last year I am sure for bog roll on the pitch so it’s potentially they thought another fine was forthcoming.

[Escobar 13,676]

8 minutes ago, Sket said:

So there have been many times prior to the UB being formed where Ibrox has been rocking.  Glad you agree.

Ibrox is a completely different place than it used to be. Far too many greeting faces bastards and people who genuinely just go to moan. 

Old firm games take care of themselves atmosphere wise, it’s the shite at home where they are needed. Fans start moaning if we aren’t up 3-0 after 10 minutes against the rubbish in the league.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

30 minutes ago, gj923 said:

Never one to support the board but we don’t know what the initial report mentioned and if it included potential sanctions. Also who was made aware of it on the board? We where fined last year I am sure for bog roll on the pitch so it’s potentially they thought another fine was forthcoming.

It matters not what they thought the sanction would be. The point is they knew the offence and stayed stoom.

IF they were even half way competent as a board, all possible outcomes would have identified, mitigated and contingency measures at the ready.

Maybe they did. Maybe they already planned to make the UB/BF1 the fall guys and get their own back, but their history shows they have not a strategic bone in their body and knee jerked as always, but did have a good opportunity to do the UB down when they got round to it.

This board are no less culpable than those who sang the naughty words.

As I said in the other thread, we but only need clarity and we move forward, but this board apoear reluctant to do so, being both the cowards and incompetents that they are.

Not one fan wants to hurt this club and if it means dropping naughty words, then so be it, but I will defend our right to sing wtf we want within reason. Dropping fenian bastard and up to our knees in them is easily changed, with far more appropriate and very relevant ones these days that will hurt our greatest rival more. Give us a level playing field, we destroy them with truth and fact.

if only for the shit stirrers in here who give it ah but some won't change it, like they are fucking clairvoyants. Their only agenda is to further divide the support and impose their appeasing agenda on the majority and should be fucking ashamed of themselves doing taigs work for them.

End of!

 

[D'Artagnan 13,319]

Interesting that these comments from the SLO are contradictory to the events alluded to in the UB's statement.

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

So they had meetings about this but decided to keep the fan base in the dark? Where's the transparency?

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

13 hours ago, Bad Robot said:

Here’s a thought, what if it was uefa who has targeted the BF1 and not the club

UEFA can close a section they can’t ban an individual. 

[Bertent 2,081]

11 minutes ago, D'Artagnan said:

Interesting that these comments from the SLO are contradictory to the events alluded to in the UB's statement.

So the club are saying that the Norwegian was able to single out a section of the stadium that was solely singing?

Call me cynical, but that seems very specific. Almost targeted. 

 

 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

10 hours ago, gogzy said:

So they admit/claim they are the "voice of Ibrox" yet are confused as to why the board chose to close that section

Board were told to close that section. 

Doesnt mean they couldn’t have gave BF1 the same option as the other closed sections. 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

3 minutes ago, D'Artagnan said:

Interesting that thes comments from the SLO are contradictory to the events alluded to in the UB's statement.

If it was the minimum sanction, then why did the board sit on the complaint for five weeks and at the last minute decimate/scapegoat UB/BF1. I smell shite!

Also in line with UEFA rules  why is the eddiface of nonce fc still open?! 

Our board are well culpable in all this, firstly for staying stoom for five weeks, leaving us open to further sanction that may come our way. For not providing clarity in exactly what is offending and for not challenging the very obvious double standards that exist both domestically and at European level. It isn't hard to challenge when you have truth and fact to readily back up your case.

This board are guilty of gross incompetence, for being cowardly appeasers and in not providing the desired leadership and governance of any entity, far less ours.  The standards are set by the board of any entity and the standards set by our board are no example for anyone to follow. They are a fucking joke, only to be exceeded by their incompetence.

We simply needed clarity, emerging as a consequence of the UEFA complaint lodged 5 weeks ago, but no, why change the habit of a the lifetime of this board. As for the appeasing ah buts in here, they should be ashamed of themselves in their agenda of division and appeasement in doing the taigs work for them.

Not one fan wants to harm this club and the appeasers can go fuck themselves.

 

 

 

[rabc10000 5,061]

5 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

Board were told to close that section. 

Doesnt mean they couldn’t have gave BF1 the same option as the other closed sections. 

Who told the board to close that specific section?? 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

3 hours ago, rabc10000 said:

That's more than likely the scenario as I would hate to think the board deliberately kept quiet and were using it to dismantle the UBs

Was just away to post the same mate. 

For me that is exactly what they did, they want rid of The UB and saw a golden opportunity with this. 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

4 minutes ago, rabc10000 said:

Who told the board to close that specific section?? 

UEFA 

[Bad Robot 21,141]

8 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

UEFA can close a section they can’t ban an individual. 

Yes but I wasn’t meaning them banning individuals as that will always be pushed onto the club the same as closing a section. The club could foolishly refuse but we’d just get kicked out as it’s their club and we’re just a member. 

by the way I fkn hate uefa the way the CL is carved up for the richer clubs/ nations and this seemingly lack of parity with the fenian who seems to do what they like with no real punishment 

[rabc10000 5,061]

Just now, Courtyard Bear said:

UEFA 

I didn't realise uefa specifically chose that section I thought they just meant a sections with 3k seats in it and the board chose that specific area

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

Just now, Bad Robot said:

Yes but I wasn’t meaning them banning individuals as that will always be pushed onto the club the same as closing a section. The club could foolishly refuse but we’d just get kicked out as it’s their club and we’re just a member. 

by the way I fkn hate uefa the way the CL is carved up for the richer clubs/ nations and this seemingly lack of parity with the fenian who seems to do what they like with no real punishment 

So why refuse BF1 an alternative ticket??

They knew this was coming weeks ago, the while handling of this by the club stinks. 

[Bad Robot 21,141]

9 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

If it was the minimum sanction, then why did the board sit on the complaint for five weeks and at the last minute decimate/scapegoat UB/BF1. I smell shite!

Also in line with UEFA rules  why is the eddiface of nonce fc still open?! 

Our board are well culpable in all this, firstly for staying stoom for five weeks, leaving us open to further sanction that may come our way. For not providing clarity in exactly what is offending and for not challenging the very obvious double standards that exist both domestically and at European level. It isn't hard to challenge when you have truth and fact to readily back up your case.

This board are guilty of gross incompetence, for being cowardly appeasers and in not providing the desired leadership and governance of any entity, far less ours.  The standards are set by the board of any entity and the standards set by our board are no example for anyone to follow. They are a fucking joke, only to be exceeded by their incompetence.

We simply needed clarity, emerging as a consequence of the UEFA complaint lodged 5 weeks ago, but no, why change the habit of a the lifetime of this board. As for the appeasing ah buts in here, they should be ashamed of themselves in their agenda of division and appeasement in doing the taigs work for them.

Not one fan wants to harm this club and the appeasers can go fuck themselves.

 

 

 

I think we’ve plea bargained other possible incidents at the last minute as uefa wanted penalties this campaign and us qualifying isn’t confirmed (yet)

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

1 minute ago, rabc10000 said:

I didn't realise uefa specifically chose that section I thought they just meant a sections with 3k seats in it and the board chose that specific area

As far as I’m aware mate, BF1 was specifically named and told to be closed. It is then up to the club what parts they close to make up the 3000 seats. 

[Bad Robot 21,141]

2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

So why refuse BF1 an alternative ticket??

They knew this was coming weeks ago, the while handling of this by the club stinks. 

My answer to BA might answer your question but what I will say is that the timing of this by uefa would be destroyed at the CAS as businesses cant operate on timescales like this which are a joke 

[Bad Robot 21,141]

18 minutes ago, Bertent said:

So the club are saying that the Norwegian was able to single out a section of the stadium that was solely singing?

Call me cynical, but that seems very specific. Almost targeted. 

 

 

I could but maybe not single sections but generally in the direction of groups of sections but yes it also seems targeted whether that was right or wrong 

[rabc10000 5,061]

1 minute ago, Bad Robot said:

My answer to BA might answer your question but what I will say is that the timing of this by uefa would be destroyed at the CAS as businesses cant operate on timescales like this which are a joke 

I asked pretty much that question early on given the game was basically a sellout and only 6 days until the next game. I also asked if their was an appeals process etc we could go through and ask for a real detailed explanation