gazza27 15,283 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Virtuoso said: A fucking liability that needs dropped punted in the January window. But the manager won't admit to 'the golden boy'' failures (or his own) 🙄 He doesn't need punted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinViesel 399 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Arfield has been as shite as Tav has this season and he doesn’t get a fraction of the abuse. Arfield isn't directly costing us goals for or against on a weekly basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Arfield has been as shite as Tav has this season and he doesn’t get a fraction of the abuse. He has been shite. But he hasn’t given goals away and hasn’t missed penalties and he is not club captain. arfield has taken shite but he is not as high profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Arfield has been as shite as Tav has this season and he doesn’t get a fraction of the abuse. Has arfield missed a vital penalty at home when we were losing or cost us 2 points away to hearts or cost us 2 goals away to young boys If so then yeah you are correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, DinViesel said: Arfield isn't directly costing us goals for or against on a weekly basis. He’s still in horrible form. Where’s the 45 page thread on him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,868 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Arfield has been as shite as Tav has this season and he doesn’t get a fraction of the abuse. Arfield’s not missing penalties or gifting goals mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, gazza27 said: He doesn't need punted Why not? An actual question but why not, if he is not contributing at all and we get decent money for him then why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: He’s still in horrible form. Where’s the 45 page thread on him? Harsh given he's being played out of position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I live this “we are seeing the real Tav now” patter too. The guy has been an outstanding attacking outlet for us at a number of levels for almost four years. Some act to manage that for that length of time against teams of ranging levels of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bakbear said: He has been shite. But he hasn’t given goals away and hasn’t missed penalties and he is not club captain. arfield has taken shite but he is not as high profile Arfield is one of our highest earners, is an attacking midfielder and is expected to be one of our most creative outlets and he isn’t scoring goals, assisting goals and is going missing for large spells of games. People are just picking who and what they want to criticise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, DBBTB said: Arfield is one of our highest earners, is an attacking midfielder and is expected to be one of our most creative outlets and he isn’t scoring goals, assisting goals and is going missing for large spells of games. People are just picking who and what they want to criticise. I have been consistent in my criticism of Arfield. However cannot ignore that Tav is currently costing the team much more than anyone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Harsh given he's being played out of position Only harsh because Arfield is a player you like, whereas with Tav you can’t wait to stick the boot in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, Bakbear said: I have been consistent in my criticism of Arfield. However cannot ignore that Tav is currently costing the team much more than anyone else Tav is out of form but some of the stuff being spouted in this thread is just exaggerated nonsense and it’s mainly coming from people who have been desperately waiting for the opportunity to stick the boot into his for years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: Tav is out of form but some of the stuff being spouted in this thread is just exaggerated nonsense and it’s mainly coming from people who have been desperately waiting for the opportunity to stick the boot into his for years now. He is off form and it needs addressed. People are frustrated that it is not happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 If people think tav is shite, ask yourself what goldson brings in comparison? Tav runs the wing constant, his crosses are poor lately, penalties are shocking but in terms of pushing the team up the park, he’s still doing that. Goldson has had nightmares at the back as well, hardly anything’s said because he’s never been as good as tav when tavs on form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bakbear said: He is off form and it needs addressed. People are frustrated that it is not happening There’s being frustrated that it’s not happening and having a sensible discussion about it and there is acting like a petulant childish arsehole and there’s a lot more people who are being the latter in this thread IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Only harsh because Arfield is a player you like, whereas with Tav you can’t wait to stick the boot in. I like all Rangers players, and will criticise the ones when its required, however, and i argued with a good few on here at the start of the season, arfield wide right and drifting inside is detriment to the team, its never worked apart from against utter shite teams Tav is playing in his favoured position with a solid defence next to him, he has no excuses, he has always been howling defensively and it was overlooked due to him putting in a good few crosses and chipping in with goals Now he isnt, so its not hard to see why a guy in his favoured position, playing consistently shite is getting grief while a player played out of position and not as often isnt criticised as much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,551 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, DBBTB said: I live this “we are seeing the real Tav now” patter too. The guy has been an outstanding attacking outlet for us at a number of levels for almost four years. Some act to manage that for that length of time against teams of ranging levels of quality. A number of levels meaning Annan and Brechin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: If people think tav is shite, ask yourself what goldson brings in comparison? Tav runs the wing constant, his crosses are poor lately, penalties are shocking but in terms of pushing the team up the park, he’s still doing that. Goldson has had nightmares at the back as well, hardly anything’s said because he’s never been as good as tav when tavs on form. Wouldnt you be playing worse knowing the fullback beside you is a fucking liability, no surprise why the left hand side of the backline is much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, Bristoe1872 said: A number of levels meaning Annan and Brechin. No I was meaning against teams like Rapid Vienna, Villarreal and Spartak Moscow in the Europa League 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, DBBTB said: I live this “we are seeing the real Tav now” patter too. The guy has been an outstanding attacking outlet for us at a number of levels for almost four years. Some act to manage that for that length of time against teams of ranging levels of quality. "outstanding attacking outlet" Theres the issue right here, he's a right back who's first job is to defend his goal, the fact that our right back is known more for attacking should set alarm bells ringing right away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,778 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: "outstanding attacking outlet" Theres the issue right here, he's a right back who's first job is to defend his goal, the fact that our right back is known more for attacking should set alarm bells ringing right away Most full backs are more known for being attacking outlets nowadays. Defensive full backs who are mostly known for being solid stoppers stopped being a thing about a decade ago now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 That’s Tavernier just got his 8th assist of the season for the Helander goal. Not bad for a guy who’s out of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Beckenbauer 156 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Arfield has been as shite as Tav has this season and he doesn’t get a fraction of the abuse. Arfield has been shite and has been dropped or rested a few times this season. What’s pissing everyone off is how unctouchable Tav is. It’s as if he could literally walk up the park and fire it past McGregor and still be the first name on the team sheet the next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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