Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Clean sheets and winnng goals and we'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Aye him at number 10 and big Ronnie at number 5 sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Number 10’s, more often that not, tend to be luxury players, rarely relied on in big games. We’ve got options to use in that role against teams we can’t break down and Gerrard rarely uses the option. I don’t think we need one at all. Mental how popular an idea this seems to be considering our last number 10 was Josh Windass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsey 1,540 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I wouldn't mind a player that can score from distance in the middle. Jack and Kamara's shooting is very powder puff from distance. One plus they have over us is when they can't break through 11 men packed behind the ball they have McGregor, Christie, Rogic that can all score from distance. Our midfield are very good at controlling the ball but I feel we'd benefit from having an attack minded central player. Overall we have to be pleased with the start to the season. Still naive at times but hopefully this team will go from strength to strength. Kent should add a new dimension when he's back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, pcbear said: What is the definition of a 10? Imo he's a support to a lone striker, who plays off the striker and also nips into the pockets of space that the lone striker creates, think Arfields goal against the tarriers last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissg910 110 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Arfield can play the number 10 well enough. It's the 2 wings where we are extremely poor. A number 10 in a 433 is the attacking centre mid. Arfield infront of davis and jack would work well if we had a decent rw and kent kn left wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 We just need a better midfielder than can grab us 15 goals. Doesn’t matter if it’s from a winger or “10”. What we need is to stop being pedestrian in most of the big games and to also use the nut a bit more as the number of times certain players like arfield give the ball away is like watching semi pro football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,835 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, King Jela said: Number 10’s, more often that not, tend to be luxury players, rarely relied on in big games. We’ve got options to use in that role against teams we can’t break down and Gerrard rarely uses the option. I don’t think we need one at all. Mental how popular an idea this seems to be considering our last number 10 was Josh Windass. That's nonsense mate. # 10's are the most skilled players in the team, not luxury players. Using Windass is a very poor example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 39 minutes ago, bluenoz said: That's nonsense mate. # 10's are the most skilled players in the team, not luxury players. Using Windass is a very poor example. I never used him as an example for all number 10’s but he was our last #10. The lure for one on here is quite romanticised imo. We don’t need one. I wouldn’t say we’ve had much trouble in the creative side at all this season for Gerrard to even think about one and if he did want to try it he has plenty of options to try out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 17 hours ago, TMB said: I’m talking about a CAM like David Turnbull. Do we need this type of player. In a discussing the number 10 role, the example you use to explain it to someone who doesn't get it is David fucking Turnbull? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 17 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: A ‘10’ doesn’t exist in a flat 4-4-2 with 2 out and out strikers like Hateley and McCoist. Durrant was the closest we had to a 10 in that team where he played behind the front two in 92/93 and 93/94 but he wasn’t really a ‘10’. In Italy traditionally the 10 would be a player who is not quite an attacking midfielder and not an out and out striker. It’s Baggio or a Totti or a Del Piero or Raul in Spain. A playmaker and a goal scorer. If a team played with two up front then the 10 is the one in behind or slightly withdrawn. They call it the seconda punta- with the 9 being the prima punta. But you can still play two up front with a 10 in behind. Traditionally the other striker would be a number 8 or 7 or 11 with the 10 still playing behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,761 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: I was with him all the way up to there too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: 3 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: I was with him all the way up to there too Raúl played behind a front two for Real Madrid (Morientes, Mijatović, Anelka, Šuker etc) in a 10 position, especially in big games, mainly up until Zidane signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,761 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Well that's me told Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,761 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Bergkamp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Well that's me told For example - 1998 Champions League Final: Granted, a lot of his early career was also spent in a slightly withdrawn role on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Bergkamp Yep - especially his early Arsenal career where he played off Ian Wright and then Nicolas Anelka or Kanu. When Henry signed he had to play slightly further forward as Henry drifted to the left wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,123 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I wonder if this is a position a fit Jamie Murphy could slot into. He was pretty successful in a few games when he was attacking from the centre rather than the left iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,761 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, BookWorm said: I wonder if this is a position a fit Jamie Murphy could slot into. He was pretty successful in a few games when he was attacking from the centre rather than the left iirc. Jamie Murphy's ibrox career is over I think mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,123 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, born a blue nose said: Jamie Murphy's ibrox career is over I think mate. O, I did not know that, I thought he was still recovering from an injury. I am a bit behind the times. Still, I think he could have fitted a no 10 role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Always remember Sir Alex describing Ronaldinho as a 10 and a half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: Raúl played behind a front two for Real Madrid (Morientes, Mijatović, Anelka, Šuker etc) in a 10 position, especially in big games, mainly up until Zidane signed. Played in a number of positions throughout his career, especially towards the end of it but was predominantly a striker and probably one of the greatest ones of his generation. Just not a name I expected to pop up in a conversation about playmakers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: Played in a number of positions throughout his career, especially towards the end of it but was predominantly a striker and probably one of the greatest ones of his generation. Just not a name I expected to pop up in a conversation about playmakers. He was never an out and out striker though. If he did play in a front two it was always withdrawn behind someone else: Zamorano, Anelka, Ronaldo, van Nistelrooy - in addition to the ones I had mentioned before. I’m pretty sure Raúl also had a higher assist ratio than Totti did, for example, in his career. His playmaking abilities have always been overshadowed by his goal scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 We don't play a shape that accommodates a number 10. We play 3 midfielders, they all need to work hard in both directions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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