2nd Flute 14,036 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, gogzy said: mate, people aren't using it as a blanket for anything. They are simply pointing out the rules that we singed up to, and explaining why that it's being called racist. It's obviously not racist to shout fuck the pope, but UEFA lump anti religious songs in with racist songs. Not much we can do about it, other than clean up the song book, or don't and wait to see what punishments we get. You have spelled it out as clearly as possible, unfortunately, some will never get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, 2nd Flute said: You have spelled it out as clearly as possible, unfortunately, some will never get it. I completely understand where CB is coming from though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,279 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dickie1963 said: Tim's will be sending FARE copies of Daily Record This is why I'm expecting us to get done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Ger_onimo said: It’s a big deal to UEFA. Everybody else’s opinion is completely irrelevant Sweet caroline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Ghoul 6,051 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Sweet caroline is a shite song as well. Such a waste of a good fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, pollok-bear said: Sweet caroline Sweet Caroline, nice song, without the add ons is far better for Rangers mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,909 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2nd Flute said: You have spelled it out as clearly as possible, unfortunately, some will never get it. All I hear is they get away with this and that, they don't get punished for what they do , it's only a song, we're doing nothing wrong , this will probably still be getting said when they shut the fuckin gates 5 hours ago, pollok-bear said: It's a fucking joke. The worlds went bonkers to many people offended by everything. Yes we cant keep harming the club but I'm not going to rip into our own fans. Ppl are passionate drunk on holiday man. To me it's no big deal but obv it seems to be for every cunt else. Lost count of the times the club and manager have asked to put a stop to it - aye it is a big deal when it's affecting the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, gogzy said: You can moan about it if you want, it won't change anything. The clubs don't seem in any hurry to take up the fight on behalf of fans that want to sing shit that UEFA don't want them singing. It's not going to happen. All we can do is what is in or power to do, which is stop singing things like fuck the pope. It's really that simple mate. So I’m not allowed to moan either as well have an irrelevant opinion. FFS mate your not giving much to do each day 😂😂 Im with UEFA having rules on Offensive chants and racist chants but not together as they are so far apart in the grand scheme of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, gogzy said: mate, people aren't using it as a blanket for anything. They are simply pointing out the rules that we singed up to, and explaining why that it's being called racist. It's obviously not racist to shout fuck the pope, but UEFA lump anti religious songs in with racist songs. Not much we can do about it, other than clean up the song book, or don't and wait to see what punishments we get. And I get all that mate. But it still shouldn’t stop clubs having a wait a minute moment, if you really want to have a crack at racism in football maybe you’re going about it the wrong way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So I’m not allowed to moan either as well have an irrelevant opinion. FFS mate your not giving much to do each day 😂😂 Im with UEFA having rules on Offensive chants and racist chants but not together as they are so far apart in the grand scheme of things. I type " you can moan about it if you want" and you read " You're not allowed to moan about it" Maybe pay attention mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Rfc52 said: Porto was one of the best away atmospheres I've ever been in and there was none of it. Sometimes things happen sadly. But I'd say its best to avoid this shit completely in European competitions Is there a distance element to this? The problems in Manchester back in 2008 perhaps another example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: All I hear is they get away with this and that, they don't get punished for what they do , it's only a song, we're doing nothing wrong , this will probably still be getting said when they shut the fuckin gates Lost count of the times the club and manager have asked to put a stop to it - aye it is a big deal when it's affecting the club When the stadium is closed for an important European qualifying match, and Rangers, and Steven Gerrard have appealed to fans again, you'll still get usual look what celtic get away with shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So I’m not allowed to moan either as well have an irrelevant opinion. FFS mate your not giving much to do each day 😂😂 Im with UEFA having rules on Offensive chants and racist chants but not together as they are so far apart in the grand scheme of things. They already do, that's the difference between illicit chants like celtic have been fined for and what we've been fined for. That's because ours are viewed as discriminatory against a protected class (religion/sexual orientation/gender/disability/ethnicity) rather than simply 'offensive.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: They already do, that's the difference between illicit chants like celtic have been fined for and what we've been fined for. That's because ours are viewed as discriminatory against a protected class (religion/sexual orientation/gender/disability/ethnicity) rather than simply 'offensive.' Religion shouldn't be in among that though as religion is the one thing in that list you can choose. I get the point obviously. I think that's one of the main reasons people think the rule is so unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, gogzy said: I type " you can moan about it if you want" and you read " You're not allowed to moan about it" Maybe pay attention mate Aye but you said like my Auld Gran used to when it was obvious she didn’t want to hear it anymore. 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, gogzy said: Religion shouldn't be in among that though as religion is the one thing in that list you can choose. I get the point obviously. I think that's one of the main reasons people think the rule is so unfair. Roman catholicism is the biggest and most powerful religion in Europe the thought that it needs protection from uefa is laughable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: All I hear is they get away with this and that, they don't get punished for what they do , it's only a song, we're doing nothing wrong , this will probably still be getting said when they shut the fuckin gates Lost count of the times the club and manager have asked to put a stop to it - aye it is a big deal when it's affecting the club I fucking said the tune in general is mo big deal in my fucking eyes. For fuck sake ya bunch a woman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Dude said: They already do, that's the difference between illicit chants like celtic have been fined for and what we've been fined for. That's because ours are viewed as discriminatory against a protected class (religion/sexual orientation/gender/disability/ethnicity) rather than simply 'offensive.' Are u alex Salmond? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, gogzy said: Religion shouldn't be in among that though as religion is the one thing in that list you can choose. I get the point obviously. I think that's one of the main reasons people think the rule is so unfair. It's always going to be there though. That's probably the one thing more than any of the others that causes issues. Tbh, it isn't all that much different from the actual law itself in the way it is managed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Thermopylae said: Roman catholicism is the biggest and most powerful religion in Europe the thought that it needs protection from uefa is laughable Mate, honestly, I'm an auld Loyalist, but the fact that Rangers fans, watching Steven Gerrards team, our team, getting a great result against Feyenoord, need to sing about the pope and Catholicism is laughable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, pollok-bear said: Are u alex Salmond? He is right unfortunately. That's the way it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: Roman catholicism is the biggest and most powerful religion in Europe the thought that it needs protection from uefa is laughable It's the most evil religion in the world and uses its power to control everything. Brain washes cunts to the max. Offended by everything and wants to divide themselves from everyone who arent a catholic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, 2nd Flute said: Mate, honestly, I'm an auld Loyalist, but the fact that Rangers fans, watching Steven Gerrards team, our team, getting a great result against Feyenoord, need to sing about the pope and Catholicism is laughable I think uefa being worried about it is laughable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dude said: It's always going to be there though. That's probably the one thing more than any of the others that causes issues. Tbh, it isn't all that much different from the actual law itself in the way it is managed. The law is an ass when it comes to things like this. You're right, but it shouldn't be that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, gogzy said: He is right unfortunately. That's the way it works. I'm not debating that mate. I just feel the world we live in now is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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