Jimfanciesthedude 24,484 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 24/12/2019 at 14:33, AlCapone said: You better let Davis and Defoe know that... Tbf it took a while for davis to get up to speed and defoe is a one in a million type loan, usually when epl clubs loan players in jan its guys who are miles away from match fitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,768 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 24/12/2019 at 00:43, Cedrick said: He’s went the way I expected , these type of players never improve no matter the age , nothing else in his locker other than pace , easily stoped by the defender , we’ve seen it with wylde and o halloran , no trick can’t beat a man , never 40/50 yards of space to run in behind with us coz the opposition is so deep , everything has to go to feet so their fucked I thought exactly the same and said as much even when others were raving about him at times last season. Looked shit scared at first team level and I thought at times he moved into positions on the pitch that might as well have said 'don't give the ball to me'. Absolutely shat it for example against Logan and Foster to name two players he should have held no fear taking on. However, after then watching him against his own age group he's a class above almost anything we or the scum have on our respective books. Much more to his game than just pace at that level. He's shown some of them at first team level for us at times, good finishing being one, but at youth level he took players on, showed great strength and close control, good shooting from distance etc. The problem's not just limited to Middleton as bar maybe Kelly not many of the younger players out on loan have done that well. But at what, 19?, I wouldn't be giving up on him yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Tbf it took a while for davis to get up to speed and defoe is a one in a million type loan, usually when epl clubs loan players in jan its guys who are miles away from match fitness He said a player signed in January won’t add any quality to our squad, I’m waiting on anyone saying Defoe or Davis haven’t added quality to our squad. Both have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 951 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 24/12/2019 at 19:26, OhW said: What do you think was his best game playing right wing? Yes smart arse he has played mostly for us on the left but he is a natural right footer as is seen the number of times when running down the left he had to cut back inside to get the ball on his preferred right foot. That is why I said as Kent will be the better option on the left he could play on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 11 hours ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: I thought exactly the same and said as much even when others were raving about him at times last season. Looked shit scared at first team level and I thought at times he moved into positions on the pitch that might as well have said 'don't give the ball to me'. Absolutely shat it for example against Logan and Foster to name two players he should have held no fear taking on. However, after then watching him against his own age group he's a class above almost anything we or the scum have on our respective books. Much more to his game than just pace at that level. He's shown some of them at first team level for us at times, good finishing being one, but at youth level he took players on, showed great strength and close control, good shooting from distance etc. The problem's not just limited to Middleton as bar maybe Kelly not many of the younger players out on loan have done that well. But at what, 19?, I wouldn't be giving up on him yet. Hopefully he makes the step up mate 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 7 hours ago, bluenose48 said: Yes smart arse he has played mostly for us on the left but he is a natural right footer as is seen the number of times when running down the left he had to cut back inside to get the ball on his preferred right foot. That is why I said as Kent will be the better option on the left he could play on the right. He’s left-footed you spazzy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnybear1972 8,130 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,652 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Nice to see him playing in the training videos today. I would probably keep him and send Ojo back but that isn't going to happen. He will need to pick his next loan better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA1972 9,483 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 He should be getting as many chances as Barker and Ojo have had, he offered an equal amount if not more when he played last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRanger86 281 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I don't think him or McCrorie should have been sent out on loan this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, LoyalRanger86 said: I don't think him or McCrorie should have been sent out on loan this season Both should be sold, along with the guy we bought from Hamilton and sent out on loan, at remember his name right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,770 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I certainly do not think we should be writing off young Middleton yet. He needs a good loan for the second half of this season and take from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 23/12/2019 at 23:46, jjbscotty12 said: He’s never good enough to play for us long term. Hard to right a player off at 19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,281 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Tbh he's a better option than ojo and barker.was there not a team from Holland that wanted him before the hibs move popped up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,318 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Get him out tae St Johnstone or Hearts I’d say. Start working loans in our favour with fines if the player doesn’t play X amount of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,055 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 For me it's a worry that he couldn't get a game for a piss poor hibs team....whilst I agree that Ojo and Barker are poor....to suggest Middleton will be of the quality required to make major impacts is doubtful for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,820 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Prso's headband said: Get him out tae St Johnstone or Hearts I’d say. Hearts are fucking guff mate and get gubbed week after week. I wouldn't send my worst enemy there. They'll be relegated this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Not just Middleton but in general as a club we need to get much better at who our players are loaned out to. Far too many go to a club, barely kick a ball & end up having their loans terminated early. Waste of everyones time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iakona 2,258 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I'd rather give Hastie a chance before Middleton. Whilst his loan hasn't been a roaring success at least he had been playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,388 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hastie won't get a look in anytime soon due to Defoe however I would keep him with us rather than loaned out to gain experience from Defoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelydan1690 20,228 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Iakona said: I'd rather give Hastie a chance before Middleton. Whilst his loan hasn't been a roaring success at least he had been playing 6 games in half a season and pretty sure not all them are starts ,total.waste of time for everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, mclovin9091 said: Hastie won't get a look in anytime soon due to Defoe however I would keep him with us rather than loaned out to gain experience from Defoe. On what planet is Defoe keeping Hastie out of the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,863 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 He needs to get regular games somewhere, his confidence will be shot and he showed previously it affected him playing at Ibrox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelydan1690 20,228 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Creampuff said: On what planet is Defoe keeping Hastie out of the team? Defoe is some winger tbf 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Smile said: Hard to right a player off at 19. Not for idiots it’s not. boys a player no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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