ArranRfc 39 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 He needs to change it up a bit and show us he's actually got a plan B. That's the difference with good and great managers knowing when and how to change the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VallancesDog 2,051 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: No Rangers manager survives 2 successive trebles Is that the quadruple treble? Fucking sickening thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 8,671 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 If he doesn’t walk by his own accord then he stays, The board don’t have the bottle to sack him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,141 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 He looked absolutely lost in that interview. Totally Gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,794 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: No one wants to hear it, I don't want to hear it but we have made progress. It's still not what we want though as fans. We crave silverware. We need success. Part of the problem is the praise for Gerrard has been OTT, and equally the criticism now will be OTT. The 11 that started that game let us down more than the manager. It's easy to say Gerrard should do more (and he should) but where was Morelos, Kent, Hagi, Jack, Arfield, Goldson, McGregor, Tav , all big players when we really needed them. It's also easy to say make subs (and I think he should have) but can we all honestly say Kamberi, Stewart or Jones would have made a difference? We're all scunnered but IMO sacking (certainly tonight) is not the answer. Agreed we have made progress but considering what's been spent it's simply not enough. The 11 that start the game did let us down but the manager picks the team and right now all across the team we have round pegs in square holes Halliday at left back Aribo/Arfield both in centre midfield Hagi out right That was just tonight. Gerrard signs players and forces them to play into the same formation/style he's played since he walked in the door, we have 1 game plan and if that doesn't work we don't change anything until the last 5 minutes when we panic and just launch balls forward. He has to take the blame for that because he's spent a small fortune and still doesn't have a team of players who suit what he wants to play & teams know how to play against us now so we're struggling. The subs wouldn't have made any difference because yet again, they aren't good enough signings. Said this last week on another topic but our best players from back to front are Mcgregor, Tav, Jack & Morelos...Gerrard wasn't responsible for signing any of them & has been here for nearly 2 years now...that's the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,986 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, VallancesDog said: Is that the quadruple treble? Fucking sickening thought. Correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,986 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Bigdave30 said: If he doesn’t walk by his own accord then he stays, The board don’t have the bottle to sack him. We don’t have the money to sack him. Him and his squad of backroom staff run into the millions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 What we need above all is some cuntish, greeting, shouting aresehole in midfield that folk, our players and opposition, are a bit feart of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 games since the break that's 720 minutes of football. We've looked like the team we were in December in roughly 90. That entire 2nd half was screaming for changes to be made, but low and behold again Gerrard doesn't pull his finger out his arse until we concede a goal. His record against Kilmarnock, Aberdeen and Hertz away from home is shocking. Slowly losing patience with him, we need answers as to why this team collapse in the business end of a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: No manager should ever be sacked based on this then.. I don't want to go off topic, but generally speaking managers get too much praise when it goes well and too much stick when it goes wrong IMO. We are all probably guilty of it to an extent. There are a number of factors that impact results, and the easy target and sacrifice is always the manager. Ultimately if you have a team/squad of good players you have a chance of doing well and being successful. The players have proven they are good enough in certain matches. They have the talent. I think it's lazy (not a go at anyone) to blame a manager when a player is playing shit. Players have it too easy. Take responsibility. Take ownership. It's always the managers fault. The players need to take a long hard look at themselves as well as Gerrard. Everyone is culpable. To be clear i'm not blindly following Gerrard. Gerrard will never be bigger than Rangers. No one ever will. We simply cannot let the season fizzle out. If performances and results continue, then my opinion will change but for now I don't think he should be sacked. I hope I don't need to change my opinion for our sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,294 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The fact this has happened twice in both seasons at almost identical times is not a coincidence to me. Questions need asked about what why we’re not changing a failing system on the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Gerrard needs to learn how to unlock a 11 man defense and call out refs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, left winger said: Unfortunately, he may well walk in a couple of weeks, then. Yep, looks like Ross Wilson is in for a busy few months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,186 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: No one wants to hear it, I don't want to hear it but we have made progress. It's still not what we want though as fans. We crave silverware. We need success. Part of the problem is the praise for Gerrard has been OTT, and equally the criticism now will be OTT. The 11 that started that game let us down more than the manager. It's easy to say Gerrard should do more (and he should) but where was Morelos, Kent, Hagi, Jack, Arfield, Goldson, McGregor, Tav , all big players when we really needed them. It's also easy to say make subs (and I think he should have) but can we all honestly say Kamberi, Stewart or Jones would have made a difference? We're all scunnered but IMO sacking (certainly tonight) is not the answer. Fucking he'll mate, which any way you want to spin this out, we have been fucking woeful since the turn of the year, exactly the same as this time last year, so we've been here before and learnt nothing. As others have said, any other manager and we would be calling for his head, but you reckon we should stay with Stevie the Scouser. I admire your loyalty, but loyalty only goes so far and right now we have reached the point where, even tomorrow would be too much time to give him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Inigo said: He's criticising them and himself. Rightly. 100% correct to question their mentality. Players that can't take that obvious criticism shouldn't be here. Too many players are too hampered. If they can't deal with a few home truths then they shouldn't be here. Everyone is to blame but ultimately it's the players on the park. Take away bad refereeing decisions, almost everyone was off it tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 654 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Inigo said: If they dowm tools then he's right about them and we're fucked either way. The kind of players that would down tools at a bit of criticism ain't winning anything here. But they're largely his shitebags so he's no one to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Gerrard has bottled it in that interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bigdave30 said: If he doesn’t walk by his own accord then he stays, The board don’t have the bottle to sack him. They won't do it either as it'll be yet another failure of a decision at board level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 As long as this form is arrested, Gerrard gets another season for me. Still think there's alot positive about him. A good deal more positive than negative. He's still new to this. Surely we knew when we took him on we should be expecting mistakes given he's a rookie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,259 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Tbf mate the first thing he said was this is his fault, this is his squad and the board have backed him and this is on him. Then he threw the players under the bus too. Absolute shithsow Good to see you back posting. A positive out of tonight! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 13,976 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: Gerrard has bottled it in that interview. It’s like having Warburton back - same old shit in every interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VallancesDog 2,051 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, left winger said: It’s like having Warburton back - same old shit in every interview. 'Take it on the chin' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, kanjo said: The fact this has happened twice in both seasons at almost identical times is not a coincidence to me. Questions need asked about what why we’re not changing a failing system on the park. Aberdeen, at this stage in their last season challenging at 2nd, had a lower points difference. That really worries me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Come on lads, where's the interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 13,976 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, VallancesDog said: 'Take it on the chin' Liked that, even though I don’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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