Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, bornabear said: Fucking he'll mate, which any way you want to spin this out, we have been fucking woeful since the turn of the year, exactly the same as this time last year, so we've been here before and learnt nothing. As others have said, any other manager and we would be calling for his head, but you reckon we should stay with Stevie the Scouser. I admire your loyalty, but loyalty only goes so far and right now we have reached the point where, even tomorrow would be too much time to give him. I'm not trying to spin anything. In the cold light of day, I have no loyalty to Gerrard. Players and managers will come and go. All that matters is us winning trophies. Right now, I agree that's looking pretty bleak. And if we continue to fail Gerrard and a number of players will move on. We have been so off it this year but it's not Gerrards fault Morelos was suspended for the first 3 games, Tav, Borna, Jack and Defoe have been injured. Most of the squad are off form and some of the decisions we've had (or not had) have been scandalous. Of course, Gerrard doesn't get a pass. He has made mistakes, several mistakes but any time he makes a mistake it's because he is a rookie, inexperienced manager. Over the past few weeks i've seen managers at Man City, Barca, Real Juve, Dortmund etc make mistakes too. I agree, if it wasn't for Gerrard's name he would be under far more pressure. That won't last much longer if results and performances don't change. IMO, at this moment in time, to rip up and start again would potentially create far bigger problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: Good to see you back posting. A positive out of tonight! Thank you mate - I had to share my disappointment 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,748 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Prso's headband said: The tarriers shoot on sight, attack with 6-7 players and continue to do so until they get their goal (s). If we actually had the tactical awareness to attack in numbers and continue to go for the jugular when we’re up 1-0 we’d be in a much better place. Instead we go side to side, out to the wing, whip it in to one guy and repeat. There simple has to be a degree of directness in this league. Not Sam Allardyce route one but you have to get the ball forward quickly and with purpose. Passing it side to side at a snails pace gets you nowhere in games like tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: This. It’s easy for people to say teams will try harder against us than them but that’s the true reality. We have a far superior team to 99% of the teams we play domestically. We have one player who costs more than than every teams squad we play bar them. We had no problem beating teams before the winter break this season and last. The reason we are this far behind again is piss poor mentality and our bottle being that of losers. When we hVe a chance to cement our place at the top or take advantage we shit the bed... Its a recurring theme. To say its just cause they have better players is naive as fuck. Any competent manager and team with the resources we have wouldnt struggle to break down the shite we have dropped points to. Didn't see Warburton or Pedro getting this defence and rightly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,774 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bertent said: Gio Blanc HOughton These aren't anywhere close to guaranteed upgrades for fuck sake. Republic of Ireland international Hughton? That's before we talk about the fact he's won next to fuck all in his managerial career and been sacked from just about every club he's been at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,790 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: Gerrard simply has to be given next season. Changing managers and therefore players is not the answer to stopping ten. There is a good nucleus in that squad. We simply have to keep going. Maybe a new Chairman and new investment can spark new ideas. Gerrard is NOT without fault but I don't think he is the reason for us not catching them. He needs more time. I'm beginning to wonder however if he will be up for the fight. Where is the good nucleus of a title winning squad. Bearing in mind our squad next season will have added pressure of trying to stop 10 in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Inigo said: Btw, maybe we don't want to admit it, but sellic have better players, so they WILL find breaking teams down easier. celtic setup in a more attacking way which helps them break teams down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory awaits 284 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Some right pish spouted on here.... Lennon the tactical genius, he will bomb absolutely guaranteed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Laudrupsleftfoot said: These aren't anywhere close to guaranteed upgrades for fuck sake. Republic of Ireland international Hughton? That's before we talk about the fact he's won next to fuck all in his managerial career and been sacked from just about every club he's been at? You asked for names fanny baws theres three now fuck off you fucking bell end, we have a manager that was a kid coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,774 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: This. It’s easy for people to say teams will try harder against us than them but that’s the true reality. Exactly - look how buzzing Brophy and O'Donnell were in the post match interview. It wasn't for fucking Kilmarnock that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,338 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, DBBTB said: There simple has to be a degree of directness in this league. Not Sam Allardyce route one but you have to get the ball forward quickly and with purpose. Passing it side to side at a snails pace gets you nowhere in games like tonight. No coincidence for the most part we’ve looked fantastic in Europe because teams come out and play. We’re far too pedestrian and conservative allowing opponents to get back into position. Without watching it the majority of the tarriers goals will have been 6-7 of them piling forward constantly attacking, creating 2 on 1s all over the final 3rd. Our reliance on the front 3 to do something is criminal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,192 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Glory awaits said: Some right pish spouted on here.... Lennon the tactical genius, he will bomb absolutely guaranteed You need help if you actually believe they aren’t winning the league by double figures now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza010 392 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I reckon he will walk end of season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,713 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said: Where is the good nucleus of a title winning squad. Bearing in mind our squad next season will have added pressure of trying to stop 10 in a row. And you are taking out 30 odd goals when Morelos fucks off due to winning nothing here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willis 20,919 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I dont think we can bring in a new manager then win the league next season. I think he has to stay simply because we need at least some consistency, but he needs to get a fucking grip. Maybe bringing in someone with experience in scottish football to be alongside Gerrard would be a good idea If plan A fails he just tries plan A again, teams have sussed us out and know how were going to play, we do the same thing every single game, totally predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Prso's headband said: The tarriers shoot on sight, attack with 6-7 players and continue to do so until they get their goal (s). If we actually had the tactical awareness to attack in numbers and continue to go for the jugular when we’re up 1-0 we’d be in a much better place. Instead we go side to side, out to the wing, whip it in to one guy and repeat. Maybe true. They still have better players though. And generally better players will win more games. Neil Lennon is competent but he's no genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,335 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Gerrard here till end of next season at the earliest. More games like tonight to enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,748 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Glory awaits said: Some right pish spouted on here.... Lennon the tactical genius, he will bomb absolutely guaranteed He’s no tactical genius but he’s making Gerrard look like a diddy and that’s a fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,338 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Inigo said: Maybe true. They still have better players though. And generally better players will win more games. Neil Lennon is competent but he's no genius. Don’t agree they have better players at all tbh. Their mentality and going all out attack is the major difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,774 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Bertent said: You asked for names fanny baws theres three now fuck off you fucking bell end, we have a manager that was a kid coach. Blanc who hasn't managed in half a decade or anywhere outside France, and a fucking Republic of Ireland stalwart? Get to fuck man for fuck sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Inigo said: What we need above all is some cuntish, greeting, shouting aresehole in midfield that folk, our players and opposition, are a bit feart of. midfield is lost without Davis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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born a blue nose 90,712 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: I'm not trying to spin anything. In the cold light of day, I have no loyalty to Gerrard. Players and managers will come and go. All that matters is us winning trophies. Right now, I agree that's looking pretty bleak. And if we continue to fail Gerrard and a number of players will move on. We have been so off it this year but it's not Gerrards fault Morelos was suspended for the first 3 games, Tav, Borna, Jack and Defoe have been injured. Most of the squad are off form and some of the decisions we've had (or not had) have been scandalous. Of course, Gerrard doesn't get a pass. He has made mistakes, several mistake but any time he makes a mistake it's because he is a rookie, inexperienced manager. Over the past few weeks i've seen managers at Man City, Barca, Real Juve, Dortmund etc make mistakes too. I agree, if it wasn't for Gerrard's name he would be under far more pressure. That won't last much longer if results and performances don't change. IMO, at this moment in time, to rip up and start again would potentially create far bigger problems. Gerrard could have been harsher on Morelos last season when he got 5 red cards, Or just properly disciplining him, so to say it’s not his fault he got a 3 game ban is nonsense. 1 of them was for diving too which could fall on the door of the manager. im pissed off and looking for targets mate, my point stands though but I’m off to bed before the realisation kicks in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,493 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, psb07158 said: Thank you mate - I had to share my disappointment 😂 Don’t go into the Politics section. It’s got worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,711 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: The tarriers shoot on sight, attack with 6-7 players and continue to do so until they get their goal (s). If we actually had the tactical awareness to attack in numbers and continue to go for the jugular when we’re up 1-0 we’d be in a much better place. Instead we go side to side, out to the wing, whip it in to one guy and repeat. We could really do with a player similar to McGregor, Armstrong or Rogic who can shoot from distance and score double figures. I don’t know how many goals Jack, Arfield and Aribo have between them in the league but it’s probably less than 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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