Rangers + Club 1872 Statements

[Sweetheart 8,458]

I expect more will be charge don't forget 2 aged 47 and 57 were arrested at Aberdeen for racially offensive remarks. Age isn't the issue here it's RACISM and the papers should remember that instead of trying to deflect the issue.

Someone asked for the link to the provan article, I hope this helps

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Rangers striker Alfredo Morelos has been on the receiving end of some seriously questionable treatment from some sections of the media ever since his arrival in Scotland – but the Scottish Sun’s Bill Leckie has taken it to new extremes by branding the Colombian goal-machine a “waster” as he launched a bizarre attack on El Buffalo.  https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/Rangers-fans-fume-at-disgusting-newspaper-attack-on-morelos/

 

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Davie Provan has told the Colombian that if he can’t handle being racially abused then he should leave Glasgow – leaving Gers fans on Twitter rightly furious. https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/Rangers-fans-blast-davie-provan-over-shameful-morelos-comment/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OhW 4,669]

3 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said:

I'll  advised behaviour that 

You advised them to do it? 

[scottyscott1963 18,287]

2 hours ago, coopsleftboot said:

Spiers has fallen into the trap of shooting the messenger and ignoring the message.  Shows himself up, yet again, as tolerant of sectarian and racist abuse...so long as the target is Rangers.

Scumbag took it sore when we pointed out his support of a paedophile,when the boy at Hearts was messaging a young girl,and he thought it was "a shame".
You can bet on it this creep has plenty of words of support for the 14 cunts on jerry McSherry's list,who were involved in the paedophile ring at the piggery.
Probably stands shoulder to shoulder with 2 predators who were caught in the last week,like our ex finonce secretary and the cowardly cunt schoffield,who turned out to be nothing but a pair of arse bandits taking advantage of minors.
Spiers is one cunt who deserves something serious to happen to him as far as scribbling is concerned.
He is one dodgy bastard who is worth the watching as far as kids are concerned. 

[tannerall 25,935]

Davie Provan would have been better informed to  advise all the Glasgow Cellic coaches to leave Glasgow when he had the chance. 

Think how many  young players would have been spared the abuse they suffered, would even have saved his favoured club the shame and embarrassment and the need to cover it up. 

 

Much, much more important than any spats Morelos has had. Obviously Provan is a man of no conviction or conscious.

[Moody Blue Legend 61,446]

Sad sad day this.  

[BridgeIsBlue 66,606]

Club 1872 notes the criminal charges filed in relation to the racist abuse of Alfredo Morelos by celtic supporters at the recent Old Firm Game at celtic Park and we hope the police are able to identify and charge the other perpetrators. We also commend Rangers on their statement yesterday which highlighted the disgraceful coverage which this incident has received in the Scottish press and by BBC Scotland.

Having been in constant contact with the club on this matter over the past week, we were aware that it was likely that criminal charges would be forthcoming and that robust comment from the club would follow. On all matters of interest to the support we make strong and frequent representations to the club. Those discussions will not always be made public but they always take place and it is Club 1872’s priority to effect real and meaningful change on behalf of supporters through our influence as major shareholders.

We fully understand the frustration of supporters who were waiting to hear from Rangers or Club 1872 but who, in the meantime, had to put up with Scottish media commentators and columnists who were more interested in conspiracy theories than calling out racism.

Let us be clear here. Every single journalist or commentator who played down this racist incident or tried to cast doubt on it even happening, was well aware that Rangers had reported it to the police, that the police were investigating and that it was referenced in the match delegate’s report. They are also aware that these are not the first charges to be filed in the past year in relation to racist abuse of Rangers players. For Tom English, Michael Stewart, Bill Leckie, Roger Hannah, Davie Provan and Gordon Waddell, to name but a few, to demand more proof than that before accepting that this incident took place was shameful. For several of them to use it as their latest excuse to attack the club or the player himself was even worse. Their comments mirrored and then legitimised the bile which emanated from the worst corners of social media towards Rangers, Alfredo Morelos and his family. In any similar situation, with any other player and any other club, they would be pariahs.

With that in mind we met with Rangers this morning to discuss how this incident should signal a fresh approach to the relationship between the club and the media in Scotland. The access granted to these media outlets is a valuable commodity and as such it should be justifiable from both a commercial and reputational point of view. With huge, ongoing changes to the way information is consumed it is not clear what benefit the club derives on either of these fronts from the traditional Scottish media. On that basis we have made representations to the club about providing the same access for supporter led, new media and that proposal has been well received.

It is our firm belief that Rangers should no longer provide valuable content to traditional outlets without there being measures in place to deal with those who publish the sort of bile we have seen in recent weeks. Having reached the stage where some pundits and journalists feel it is acceptable to publicly deny, downplay or make excuses for the racism suffered by a Rangers player, it is clear that the relationship with those journalists and their employers needs to be carefully and continuously re-examined.

We fully understand that it is not desirable to completely ban media outlets from Ibrox but it is also not acceptable for media outlets to target our club, fans and players and still expect to be granted unfettered access to the content generated by the club. We will continue our dialogue with both the club and those media outlets over the coming weeks and months with the aim of ensuring that the situation significantly improves.

Issued by Supporters Voice Limited, a Club 1872 company. 

[dougie76 15,359]

8 minutes ago, Moody Blue Legend said:

Sad sad day this.  

We should be discussing the abuse Morelos and his family get put through in this shithole but we end up arguing over petty shit, this is a time to unite as a support. 

[BridgeIsBlue 66,606]

 

[Vision 16,729]

2 hours ago, beararse said:

He seems to believe he has the divine right to shout down opinion on here.

Anyone he disagrees with gets labelled a mongo or a Fenian or a mutant, and he’s usually backed up by the same cronies who pop up to genuflect at his greatness and offer their support.

I reckon he has a Messiah complex brought upon by the sheer volume of his posts which average out at an astonishing 22 post EVERY single day over the last 11 years!

 

 

 

Needs to go into Ibrox and go on the course for being to Staunch imo. 

[Supersonic 4,654]

I guess in theory we can't ban everyone but we absolutely should be banning some of that absolute scum cunts that have been more than happy to show their racist colours in the past few weeks.

Stewart and the cunts at the sun would be a nice start. Also, refuse to work with any cunts that works with them and make it clear why.

They will continue to abuse Morelos, even long after he is away. 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

1 hour ago, beararse said:

But you’ve got admit it’s fairly obvious they would look for a weakness in the statement and pounce.

Shouldn’t have gave them the opportunity.

 

But they get away with it because no one pulls them up for it. 
Just once it would be good for someone to point out what they are doing. 

[16BlueSherbert90 19,223]

23 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said:

Club 1872 notes the criminal charges filed in relation to the racist abuse of Alfredo Morelos by celtic supporters at the recent Old Firm Game at celtic Park and we hope the police are able to identify and charge the other perpetrators. We also commend Rangers on their statement yesterday which highlighted the disgraceful coverage which this incident has received in the Scottish press and by BBC Scotland.

Having been in constant contact with the club on this matter over the past week, we were aware that it was likely that criminal charges would be forthcoming and that robust comment from the club would follow. On all matters of interest to the support we make strong and frequent representations to the club. Those discussions will not always be made public but they always take place and it is Club 1872’s priority to effect real and meaningful change on behalf of supporters through our influence as major shareholders.

We fully understand the frustration of supporters who were waiting to hear from Rangers or Club 1872 but who, in the meantime, had to put up with Scottish media commentators and columnists who were more interested in conspiracy theories than calling out racism.

Let us be clear here. Every single journalist or commentator who played down this racist incident or tried to cast doubt on it even happening, was well aware that Rangers had reported it to the police, that the police were investigating and that it was referenced in the match delegate’s report. They are also aware that these are not the first charges to be filed in the past year in relation to racist abuse of Rangers players. For Tom English, Michael Stewart, Bill Leckie, Roger Hannah, Davie Provan and Gordon Waddell, to name but a few, to demand more proof than that before accepting that this incident took place was shameful. For several of them to use it as their latest excuse to attack the club or the player himself was even worse. Their comments mirrored and then legitimised the bile which emanated from the worst corners of social media towards Rangers, Alfredo Morelos and his family. In any similar situation, with any other player and any other club, they would be pariahs.

With that in mind we met with Rangers this morning to discuss how this incident should signal a fresh approach to the relationship between the club and the media in Scotland. The access granted to these media outlets is a valuable commodity and as such it should be justifiable from both a commercial and reputational point of view. With huge, ongoing changes to the way information is consumed it is not clear what benefit the club derives on either of these fronts from the traditional Scottish media. On that basis we have made representations to the club about providing the same access for supporter led, new media and that proposal has been well received.

It is our firm belief that Rangers should no longer provide valuable content to traditional outlets without there being measures in place to deal with those who publish the sort of bile we have seen in recent weeks. Having reached the stage where some pundits and journalists feel it is acceptable to publicly deny, downplay or make excuses for the racism suffered by a Rangers player, it is clear that the relationship with those journalists and their employers needs to be carefully and continuously re-examined.

We fully understand that it is not desirable to completely ban media outlets from Ibrox but it is also not acceptable for media outlets to target our club, fans and players and still expect to be granted unfettered access to the content generated by the club. We will continue our dialogue with both the club and those media outlets over the coming weeks and months with the aim of ensuring that the situation significantly improves.

Issued by Supporters Voice Limited, a Club 1872 company. 

Now that is a really really good statement! Excellent in fact. I hope this is followed through. 

[beararse 6,374]

13 minutes ago, Vision said:

Needs to go into Ibrox and go on the course for being to Staunch imo. 

He's that staunch it hurts 🙂

[16BlueSherbert90 19,223]

For goodness sake....give the bickering a rest!!!!

I remember the days on here where this sort of stupid playground nonsense would be nipped in the bud. 

@admin these threads are getting ridiculous and have no decent flow anymore.  Having a laugh and silly banter is one thing, this is getting seriously petty by grown men though. If you want to rip one another, the OT is a great place for it. 

Yes that's right....pass it on, I am a grass. 

Can we get back to topic now yes? 

[ForeverAndEver 71,457]

22 minutes ago, Sweettartangirl said:

For goodness sake....give the bickering a rest!!!!

I remember the days on here where this sort of stupid playground nonsense would be nipped in the bud. 

@admin these threads are getting ridiculous and have no decent flow anymore.  Having a laugh and silly banter is one thing, this is getting seriously petty by grown men though. If you want to rip one another, the OT is a great place for it. 

Yes that's right....pass it on, I am a grass. 

Can we get back to topic now yes? 

There’s like 4 admin and that @ isn’t any of them btw

[ger4life_1872 29,454]

Just now, ForeverAndEver said:

There’s like 4 admin and that @ isn’t any of them btw

@administrators is the 1 shes looking for 

[ricksen92 460]

I believe the club and also club 1872 where right to put out statements, but also believe now is the time to ban or withhold press passes from certian journo's or papers with no interviews given buy Rangers players staff or directors to said jouno's.

[magic8ball 27,901]

Any apologies from any of the cunts yet ,that includes lieswell 

a couple of years ago when Sinclair got abused at Ibrox they cunts milked it for all it was worth ,Full team pictured showing racism the Red card ,Media all over it sucking up and exposing the great scandal 

Even some making comment months later when we signed a few Black players ,why are they going to Ibrox when it’s so racist 

[eejay the dj 31,964]

4 hours ago, jintybear said:

They issue far more statements about us than we do! They are obsessed by us and we live rent free in their heads. I think it’s a great statement 

disagree on that one , tbf they utilise  all their friends in the media . We don't have any 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

3 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

disagree on that one , tbf they utilise  all their friends in the media . We don't have any 

Hence why we should turn into action what we do have control of. Pull privilages and ban cunts.

Then see how long they ridicule or stay stoom on our press releases.

[eejay the dj 31,964]

1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said:

Hence why we should turn into action what we do have control of. Pull privilages and ban cunts.

Then see how long they ridicule or stay stoom on our press releases.

If we don't try it . We will never know . Still think its all mealy mouthed and apologetic in it's tone 

We need hard action. Not discussion and words .Simple as that 

We are 5 years down the road from action should have been taking place 

Some would say at least 8 years 

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

Herein lies the root cause of our problem (borrowed from D'Art's post/thread)............

 

"There has been something of a mixed reaction to the Rangers statement on social media. Whether you liked or loathed it, I’m far from convinced that the silence of the Rangers board is justified due to ongoing Police investigations. Much of the unedifying media content and conduct occurred well before the game which gave rise to the latest criminal proceedings. Call me cynical, but the catalyst to this latest Rangers statement release appears to be the recent attack on James Traynor rather than the long standing catalogue of attacks on Alfredo Morelos. As many of us repeatedly warned the Murray regime “So as you sow, so shall ye reap”. Dignified silence is neither dignified nor effective, it is a complete abdication of responsibility – an easy out for those are afraid to fulfil the sacred trust bestowed upon them as directors and guardians of our club."

 

[eejay the dj 31,964]

13 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

Any apologies from any of the cunts yet ,that includes lieswell 

a couple of years ago when Sinclair got abused at Ibrox they cunts milked it for all it was worth ,Full team pictured showing racism the Red card ,Media all over it sucking up and exposing the great scandal 

Even some making comment months later when we signed a few Black players ,why are they going to Ibrox when it’s so racist 

Yeah and we just accepted all that shite without any come back 

[eejay the dj 31,964]

1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said:

Herein lies the root cause of our problem (borrowed from D'Art's post/thread)............

 

"There has been something of a mixed reaction to the Rangers statement on social media. Whether you liked or loathed it, I’m far from convinced that the silence of the Rangers board is justified due to ongoing Police investigations. Much of the unedifying media content and conduct occurred well before the game which gave rise to the latest criminal proceedings. Call me cynical, but the catalyst to this latest Rangers statement release appears to be the recent attack on James Traynor rather than the long standing catalogue of attacks on Alfredo Morelos. As many of us repeatedly warned the Murray regime “So as you sow, so shall ye reap”. Dignified silence is neither dignified nor effective, it is a complete abdication of responsibility – an easy out for those are afraid to fulfil the sacred trust bestowed upon them as directors and guardians of our club."

 

100% bang on the money 

[Robmc1 4,741]

10 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

disagree on that one , tbf they utilise  all their friends in the media . We don't have any 

Decided to tune in to SSB, Roger Hanna on tonight and wondered if he might form some sort of apology re his Morelos nonsense, I lasted about 3 minutes, no apology and straight on to fawning about Edouard. For an ex Rangers player Dalziel, co presenter, has become an all things celtic cheerleader...