dummiesoot 16,268 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 What about Alfie? SG gave him a new contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,569 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, dummiesoot said: What about Alfie? SG gave him a new contract He's turned to dug shite anaw. Overweight. 12 league goals and four goals in the last twelve. Not good. Head's gone. He doesn't help himself though and I could blame both Gerrard and the club for a lot of it. However, reputations mean fuck all when you win fuck all year on year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: What about Alfie? SG gave him a new contract Added fail for me, due to the way he is now. quicker he goes the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Goldson has been massively overrated on here since he's arrived, imo. There's a few got that tag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 McGregor and Arfield were identified my Mark Allen and were alredy holding contract talks prior to Gerrard's arrival. Gerrard inherited the deal for Jamie Murphy. Mark Allen also said that Katic was an indication that the new scouting system was working. So Gerrard didn't identify him, the scouts did. Pedro never gets credit for signing Morelos because he didn't identify him personally, so why should Gerrard get stick for guys he didn't identify personally? That would be hypocritical. Loan deals are very low risk but can bring high rewards (like Hagi) so I wouldn't call any of them a fail. If it works out and we get the player permanently then great, if it doesn't work out we send them back to their parent club. Labelling Hastie as a failed transfer seems strange when he's only 20 and brought in as a project seems strange. The boy could go on to be a fantastic player for us. Why write him off now? Strange. Guys like Gareth McAuley were only ever brought in as short-term backup. He served that purpose so it's not a fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, TMB said: McGregor and Arfield were identified my Mark Allen and were alredy holding contract talks prior to Gerrard's arrival. Gerrard inherited the deal for Jamie Murphy. Mark Allen also said that Katic was an indication that the new scouting system was working. So Gerrard didn't identify him, the scouts did. Pedro never gets credit for signing Morelos because he didn't identify him personally, so why should Gerrard get stick for guys he didn't identify personally? That would be hypocritical. Loan deals are very low risk but can bring high rewards (like Hagi) so I wouldn't call any of them a fail. If it works out and we get the player permanently then great, if it doesn't work out we send them back to their parent club. Labelling Hastie as a failed transfer seems strange when he's only 20 and brought in as a project seems strange. The boy could go on to be a fantastic player for us. Why write him off now? Strange. Guys like Gareth McAuley were only ever brought in as short-term backup. He served that purpose so it's not a fail. Manager signs off on deals managers extends contracts given the new deal it's that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Smile said: Added fail for me, due to the way he is now. quicker he goes the better. The value of Morelos has increased quite a bit since Gerrard took over so why wouldn't we offer him a new contract? You tie down your most valuable players on long contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Smile said: Manager signs off on deals managers extends contracts given the new deal it's that simple. So you agree that Pedro Caixinha brought Alfredo Morelos to Rangers. It was his signing and he gets all the credit for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Shite whole first season, very good August-December, and rank rotten since. A get Goldson’s been shite and should be dropped but c’mon to fuck. Barisic is an outstanding player who will go on to earn us 10x the money we paid for him. How is that not a successful bit of business in the transfer market? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, TMB said: So you agree that Pedro Caixinha brought Alfredo Morelos to Rangers. It was his signing and he gets all the credit for that? Yes as he has the final say, he's a Gerrard player now as he chose to resign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, TMB said: Barisic is an outstanding player who will go on to earn us 10x the money we paid for him. How is that not a successful bit of business in the transfer market? Give us your pass and fails as that's what this thread is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,666 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 What's certain is even the worst of them with a half decent manager are good enough to beat Hamilton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Smile said: Give us your pass and fails as that's what this thread is about. The squad is worth a lot more now than when he came in. The prize money and gate receipts for reaching the last 16 of the Europa pays for Kent and Helander. When you’re looking at it in that context it’s nothing but good business from a financial perspective. Funny seeing people flip flop on the issue of who gets credit for the signings. People hated Pedro and didn’t want to give him any credit for bringing Morelos here. Now people are turning against Gerrard everyone brought here during his tenure is his signing despite the fact he didn’t identify or scout all these players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: What's certain is even the worst of them with a half decent manager are good enough to beat Hamilton. The previous 4 meetings with Hamilton we beat them 4 times scoring 17 times and conceding 2. These players are more than capable of beating Hamilton, or anyone in this league. They’re going through a very poor run of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, TMB said: The squad is worth a lot more now than when he came in. The prize money and gate receipts for reaching the last 16 of the Europa pays for Kent and Helander. When you’re looking at it in that context it’s nothing but good business from a financial perspective. Funny seeing people flip flop on the issue of who gets credit for the signings. People hated Pedro and didn’t want to give him any credit for bringing Morelos here. Now people are turning against Gerrard everyone brought here during his tenure is his signing despite the fact he didn’t identify or scout all these players. Pass or fail. Its not hard to work out what to do here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ForeverAndEver 73,911 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, TMB said: Barisic is an outstanding player who will go on to earn us 10x the money we paid for him. How is that not a successful bit of business in the transfer market? We’re talking about performances, Barisic has kicked his arse for four months. Hardly outstanding. As much of a fail as he is a pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Hes signed a lot of shite and plenty that he himself wants to get rid of . The fact they have won fuck all in two years confirms it..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: We’re talking about performances, Barisic has kicked his arse for four months. Hardly outstanding. As much of a fail as he is a pass. Barisic has 12 assists and 3 goals from free-kicks this season. Performances good enough for some big teams to sit up and take notice. Even if Barisic never kicked a ball for us signing a guy who we can sell for 10x profit automatically makes it a successful transfer. If we could do that with everyone we brought in we would quickly become the richest club in the country. Barisic will probably go on to be outstanding at the Euros this summer with Croatia. Yet, we’ll still have folk on here claiming he’s not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: Hes signed a lot of shite and plenty that he himself wants to get rid of . The fact they have won fuck all in two years confirms it..... So shite they played 19 league games prior the winter break and only dropped 7 points. So shite they reached the League Cup final, dominated the game, and only lost due to the officials allowing an offside goal to stand. So shite they’ve beaten Midtjylland, Legia, Porto, Feyenoord, and Braga, on the way to the Europa last 16. Imagine what he could do with good players... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 How can prople say Kamberi and Hagi are passes when they have hardly played that many games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,288 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Difficult to say things were ok before the break but of course you really find out their worth when things start going wrong and they have to stand up to be counted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: How can prople say Kamberi and Hagi are passes when they have hardly played that many games? It's their opinion, over the short time seeing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
In walter we trust 228 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Smile said: James Tavernier (extended contract) pass Allan McGregor (Free Hull) pass Andy Firth( barrow) not seen him Borna Barasic (£1.5m Osijek) pass Ovie Ejaria (loan Liverpool) fail Connor Goldson (£3m Brighton) hit or miss but a pass Nikola Katic (£2m Slaven Belupo) pass Ryan Kent (loan first, 7m Liverpool) on the fence Eros Grezda (£1m Osijek) fail Steven Davis (loan, signed now Southampton) on the fence Lassana Coulibaly (loan Angers) fail Kyle Lafferty (£450k Hearts) fail Jermain Defoe (loan, Bournemouth signed now) pass Umar Sadiq (loan Roma) fail Scott Arfield (free Burnley) pass Joe Worrall (loan Nottingham Forest) fail Gareth McAuley (free West Brom) fail Andy King (loan Leicester) fail Jamie Murphy (undisclosed fee signed now on loan) fail Jordan Jones ( 500k fuck knows remember they turned down 350k) fail Greg Stewart fail George Edmundson( 500k) hit or miss early days for him as a player. Jo aribo(300k) pass Filip Helander ( 4M) hit or miss looking like a pass Brandon Barker fail Sheyi Ojo ( loan Liverpool) fail Jake Hastie( motherwell) fail Flo Kamberi(loan) pass Ianis Hagi( loan with option to buy) pass Morelos (red cards discipline and attitude goalscorering all went to fuck) fail Not sure on all the fees or if this is all the players will add then when posters spot who's missing. Most fails are free transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Smile said: It's their opinion, over the short time seeing them. It’s flawed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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