magic8ball 27,901 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Dude said: You might want to double check that one. I can categorically say youre absolutely wrong. Well from my experience and I live in Falkirk they are just like a smaller version of Hearts ,That being the older guys ,guys who are getting towards their 60s and older who are Falkirk fans almost all have Rangers as a 2nd team ,same with most of the older guys I know from Edinburgh who are Jambos , Only ever heard 1 reason for it ,brotherhood Almost all under 50 though from both sides can’t stand us now though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, magic8ball said: Well from my experience and I live in Falkirk they are just like a smaller version of Hearts ,That being the older guys ,guys who are getting towards their 60s and older who are Falkirk fans almost all have Rangers as a 2nd team ,same with most of the older guys I know from Edinburgh who are Jambos , Only ever heard 1 reason for it ,brotherhood Almost all under 50 though from both sides can’t stand us now though They've put a statement out saying they are voting against it. Im also local to Falkirk and have worked particularly closely with them this season. Plenty there who still have a lot of time for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: They've put a statement out saying they are voting against it. Im also local to Falkirk and have worked particularly closely with them this season. Plenty there who still have a lot of time for us. If your talking about board level than that could be a different ball game,The support generally can’t stand us ,well under 50 anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, The Dude said: Becuase the remaining budget is dependent on clubs final league position. Cant pay out a reward based on where they finish if they haven't finished. Thats in the current rules, in your opinion. Are you saying a resolution couldnt have been raised against that but can against terminating the league early? In fact, to simplify, the spfl couldnt have a resolution re paying out the remaining budget as a standalone issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, magic8ball said: If your talking about board level than that could be a different ball game,The support generally can’t stand us ,well under 50 anyway I am. And that's who will be doing the voting. Dunno if you read the quotes I posted earlier...but...😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Thats in the current rules, in your opinion. Are you saying a resolution couldnt have been raised against that but can against terminating the league early? In fact, to simplify, the spfl couldnt have a resolution re paying out the remaining budget as a standalone issue? Not in my opinion. That's when the final payment is due. A resolution could have been raised. None of the 42 member clubs (including ours) did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, The Dude said: I am. And that's who will be doing the voting. Dunno if you read the quotes I posted earlier...but...😉 Missed a few out sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 6 hours ago, The Dude said: Not in my opinion. That's when the final payment is due. A resolution could have been raised. None of the 42 member clubs (including ours) did. Again, i t doesnt state that, you've interpreted it that way. 153.1. The whole of the Net Commercial Revenues referable to any one Season shall, subject to Article 153.3 (this is the table of payments starting position 1 at 13.4% to position 42 at 0.18% share) be paid as fee payments to the Clubs participating in the League during the relevant Season in accordance with their respective League positions, determined in accordance with the Rules, as set out in Table A in Article 153.2. Reading the above, in relation to the current circumstances, the rule imposed fits well with paying out based on respective league positions. Those positions being determined by the Rules ie membership, participation etc. The determining league position based on rules is about how positions are got to, not when they're got to. Respective positions rather than final positions. I agree this rule is normally implemented at the end of the league season but dont see that explicitly defined here. If the rules exist and can be imposed fairly today, theres no need to link completion of the league to them. So the were given the opportunity to lead and chose to fuck it up by combining it with league termination. They didnt do what they could have and now a club, ours, have. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 hours ago, The Dude said: Aye it is based on what the SPFL are telling them. What I'm suggesting is, based on clubs having their own concerns over their commercial deals if null and void happens, it may well be a similar scenario with the SPFL. Why would it benefit the commercial deals if the season ends with the board picking who loses/wins against the league finishing as is with no winner or loser. Surely all they’re concerned about is tv viewings, games played etc which won’t happen with either scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 10 hours ago, The Dude said: Not fishing at all. You made a demonstrably bullshit claim. A couple of mods had my source named to them and will be able to confirm if theyve since 'rubbished it' You really are a sad lonely man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 7 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Thats in the current rules, in your opinion. Are you saying a resolution couldnt have been raised against that but can against terminating the league early? In fact, to simplify, the spfl couldnt have a resolution re paying out the remaining budget as a standalone issue? It’s sad to see .The more you debate with him.The more he appears to run rings round you .In his head of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,705 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I fear if they relegate hearts but then reconstruct league and bring them back then our statement looks slightly wasted as that point will have been dealt with.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 So 25% of 42 clubs need to vote no which is 11 clubs? Could be a close vote if the potential play off teams are not happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 hours ago, The Dude said: Becuase the remaining budget is dependent on clubs final league position. Cant pay out a reward based on where they finish if they haven't finished. So we can give away a League trophy without finishing but fuck giving clubs money until we know where they finished. That's fenian logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imodium 410 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 If they are ending this early and looks like they will be, should be splitting the total prize fund equally among the twelve teams. There will be a legal challenge from Hearts and the lower league relegated teams so this will drag on for months. League ‘winners’ will have an asterisk against this one for sporting integrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, Shuggy said: So 25% of 42 clubs need to vote no which is 11 clubs? Could be a close vote if the potential play off teams are not happy. Think this will be a lot closer than we initially thought ,Another it thing that I’m thinking ,Remember Stewart Milne’s comment about Lieswell having too much control over the game in this country ,Well there will be no way he’s the only one with that view and this could be also seen as an opportunity to go against them ,I know a lot of clubs are desperate for some cash but some of the part time teams won’t have such a pressing cash flow issue than some of the full time clubs higher up the tier Monday night will be interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, magic8ball said: Think this will be a lot closer than we initially thought ,Another it thing that I’m thinking ,Remember Stewart Milne’s comment about Lieswell having too much control over the game in this country ,Well there will be no way he’s the only one with that view and this could be also seen as an opportunity to go against them ,I know a lot of clubs are desperate for some cash but some of the part time teams won’t have such a pressing cash flow issue than some of the full time clubs higher up the tier Monday night will be interesting Seemingly the sheep have voted against the filth getting the league,along with us and Hearts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sket said: Seemingly the sheep have voted against the filth getting the league,along with us and Hearts. Iv had a wee inkling that they would ,not just because of their borderline league position but the guy that took over from Milne ,He was in the job only a few days and came out with a statement along the lines of fuck Lieswell and was basically told to go back in his box ,He will have no time for the regime either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On 09/04/2020 at 00:06, magic8ball said: Well from my experience and I live in Falkirk they are just like a smaller version of Hearts ,That being the older guys ,guys who are getting towards their 60s and older who are Falkirk fans almost all have Rangers as a 2nd team ,same with most of the older guys I know from Edinburgh who are Jambos , Only ever heard 1 reason for it ,brotherhood Almost all under 50 though from both sides can’t stand us now though I think that is pretty accurate . We can't prove it but i believe it . Most young ones nowadays believe all the negative headlines we get in the red tops . The last 8 years have been very damaging with all the young supporters of other clubs . Not that it really matters . It's what matters in their boardrooms .And i firmly believe Slanty eyes will have sussed them all out by now and have the necessary ones fall into line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support_The_Troops 89 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 https://m.facebook.com/notes/Rangers-fc/Rangers-football-club-members-update/3176863932332340/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,708 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 The corruption within our game might just show itself through all this. Hopefully more and more people/clubs are now seeing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,573 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Is it me or are our statements bloody brilliant recently? Certainly not missing the intended targets thats for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup2 1,535 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Is it me or are our statements bloody brilliant recently? Certainly not missing the intended targets thats for sure. But will it make a difference with the corrupt Spfl they seem to get away with everything for 1 glasgow club and not enough fight from the other teams in our division . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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