Club statement | Resolution not deemed competent

[Bearsden bear 2,376]

21 minutes ago, Junior Soprano said:

Fuck off

Not a fan🤣😂

[Sweetheart 8,458]

Deleted as link to statement has been posted 

[British_Empire 9,648]

Here's the Dundee statement if anyone's wanting it....

Good afternoon Dundee fans. I hope this statement continues to find you safe and healthy as we continue to be quarantined in our fight against the Covid-19 virus. The past week has been fraught with anxiety, vitriol, conspiracy theory, and of course a far ranging amount of media conjecture and commentary. Below is a brief enlightenment of our thoughts and processes over the past week.

Impact of the SPFL resolution: Relegated clubs were negatively impacted in two substantial ways: the lost opportunity to avoid relegation, and the lost opportunity for financial support. As we previously stated, the end of the season due to the COVID-19 epidemic should not result in any club being worse off than they were prior to vote. In our opinion the SPFL’s “solution” for the league was not a solution for all teams in the league. Knowing that most teams desperately needed cash flow before the end of April, the quickest and easiest way for the SPFL to achieve that was this proposal; however, the result was immediate inequity, and mid-to long-term instability. Understandably, that was the driving factor for a ‘yes’ vote from many clubs. Outside of clubs receiving an injection of immediate cash, this was unacceptable to us as we feel the actions of the league should be representative of all its members; detrimental impact to one club is ultimately detrimental to all clubs. Furthermore, the proposal left little prospect for league reconstruction, another significant aspect of long-term sustainability for Scottish Football. Whilst the lockdown has resulted in tremendous hardship for the country, one opportunity it has presented, in Dundee FC’s point of view, is the restructuring of the league.

Dundee FC’s vote: Because of the situation detailed above, it was our intention (as the world has seen through the disappointing and regrettable actions of two championship clubs) to vote ‘no’ on the proposed resolution. Despite being electronically submitted, for whatever reason, our vote did not reach the centre (SPFL.) We were not aware of that, however, until the SPFL published the ‘results’ of an incomplete vote and it was shown that Dundee FC’s vote was not received. This raised an immediate red flag for us; not only was our vote missing, but we discovered that at least two Premiership clubs had modified their position from the understanding we had the day prior. It was then that we decided to put our foot on the ball and pause. We conveyed that decision to the centre and ceased taking calls on the subject. We needed time to develop a clearer DFC view on the situation.

Whilst it is not our responsibility to take the lead on solutions for the league (indeed, we believe this is the role of the SPFL), it is our duty to attempt to ensure that the future of Scottish Football remains promising for all the clubs. To that end, we have we have worked tirelessly to achieve solutions to help those who were being disadvantaged and sought ways to help them. We have discussed options with a variety of member clubs to show solidarity to the clubs most negatively impacted by the SPFL proposal. Relegated clubs must have financial assistance to help soften the landing so they can begin the next season on more equitable footing. Through our discussions it appears that there is an appetite to provide various forms of support from other member clubs if these clubs are in fact relegated. Further details of these acts of kindness and solidarity will be worked out amongst the member clubs. Also, we are sorry to disappoint all of the conspiracy theorists by saying that we were never exposed to any ‘deals’ from either of the Glasgow giants. They both acted, as we would expect, with complete professionalism.

Additionally and most importantly for Dundee FC, we spoke to other member clubs regarding their appetite for reconstruction, as the SPFL’s briefing notes does not give us much of a chance and this is the only aspect of any proposal that helps Dundee FC in any way. There are several things that have to be in place in order to deliver a proper opportunity of achieving a better foundation for Scottish Football’s future. First, a working group should be assembled and must have members from the highest levels of Scottish Football with long-term interest in the future success of the game. We need to agree a set of goals that will be the basis of reconstruction which takes into account current and future wants and needs of media; member clubs’ financial benefits; and sporting integrity as a basis. It is our belief that after speaking to numerous clubs that the appetite for reconstruction is there and the intention is to set up an immediate and focused working group to take on this task. The centre will have to accept and support the will of the members.

We do believe the centre has made mistakes in this process, namely not taking into consideration any financial fallout to their member clubs and publishing of the incomplete ballot results, which has put Dundee FC in a position to receive criticism and undue torment. If what we achieved in our pause was presented by the SPFL in the first instance we would have voted in favour of the proposal.

We would like to thank the fans for their patience, and most of the member clubs for their cooperation and support during this time. Make no mistake, we continue to have a daunting task ahead of us, but we are encouraged by everyday acts of kindness, resolution, and humanity that we are all sharing as we get through this together. Stay safe and hope we see you soon in a newly revamped league.

[ritchieshearercaldow 22,393]

7 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said:

https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/club-statement-26/
 

doesn’t say anything new 

It’s gone the same way as their vote.....lost

[Bluekev 47,194]

15 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

So, how the fuck do we go to an independent chair without us making a move?

We go the the SPFL and they say fuck off as they basically have, stating our claims have no foundations and want evidence?

Now what?

Go to the SFA, we'll probably get a fuck off from then so go to UEFA, if we get a fuck off from them go to FIFA.

[STEPPS BOY 77,602]

Dundee now trolling Scottish Football..

[NeoGeo7 11,285]

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We needed time to develop a clearer CFC view on the situation

 

[GaryMc 2,409]

So have they voted as that's some size of statement without saying anything worthwhile.

[Bad Robot 21,513]

31 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

I can't see it mate. That would mean delaying European competitions until league winners and runners-up are determined. Champions league is UEFA's money chest. Surely a fresh slate is needed. 

A delay is better than cancelling and it needs a radical plan but who know what will be decided but whatever option generates the most money will always be the one they choose regardless of public health or the spectator’s experience.

[chris182 6,531]

Just fucking cancel the whole vote FFS, it's getting tiresome.

There's no way it's got any integrity

[GersInCanada 7,775]

At least Dundee are confirming their vote was NO.

[Prso's headband 36,807]

By having to come out and say you’ve had no “deals” with the “Glasgow giants” then you have absolutely been having talks about a deal. 
 

The use of “Glasgow giants” instead of Old firm lol

[6superbarry6 14,618]

Not even reading that scripted pish from Dundee, their vote much like their club is irrelevant now 

[Bad Robot 21,513]

11 minutes ago, Malkster said:

error establishing connection

it’s been down since yesterday 

[esquire8 45,271]

Good afternoon Dundee fans. I hope this statement continues to find you safe and healthy as we continue to be quarantined in our fight against the Covid-19 virus. The past week has been fraught with anxiety, vitriol, conspiracy theory, and of course a far ranging amount of media conjecture and commentary. Below is a brief enlightenment of our thoughts and processes over the past week. Impact of the SPFL resolution: Relegated clubs were negatively impacted in two substantial ways: the lost opportunity to avoid relegation, and the lost opportunity for financial support. As we previously stated, the end of the season due to the COVID-19 epidemic should not result in any club being worse off than they were prior to vote. In our opinion the SPFL’s “solution” for the league was not a solution for all teams in the league. Knowing that most teams desperately needed cash flow before the end of April, the quickest and easiest way for the SPFL to achieve that was this proposal; however, the result was immediate inequity, and mid-to long-term instability. Understandably, that was the driving factor for a ‘yes’ vote from many clubs. Outside of clubs receiving an injection of immediate cash, this was unacceptable to us as we feel the actions of the league should be representative of all its members; detrimental impact to one club is ultimately detrimental to all clubs. Furthermore, the proposal left little prospect for league reconstruction, another significant aspect of long-term sustainability for Scottish Football. Whilst the lockdown has resulted in tremendous hardship for the country, one opportunity it has presented, in Dundee FC’s point of view, is the restructuring of the league. Dundee FC’s vote: Because of the situation detailed above, it was our intention (as the world has seen through the disappointing and regrettable actions of two championship clubs) to vote ‘no’ on the proposed resolution. Despite being electronically submitted, for whatever reason, our vote did not reach the centre (SPFL.) We were not aware of that, however, until the SPFL published the ‘results’ of an incomplete vote and it was shown that Dundee FC’s vote was not received. This raised an immediate red flag for us; not only was our vote missing, but we discovered that at least two Premiership clubs had modified their position from the understanding we had the day prior. It was then that we decided to put our foot on the ball and pause. We conveyed that decision to the centre and ceased taking calls on the subject. We needed time to develop a clearer DFC view on the situation. Whilst it is not our responsibility to take the lead on solutions for the league (indeed, we believe this is the role of the SPFL), it is our duty to attempt to ensure that the future of Scottish Football remains promising for all the clubs. To that end, we have worked tirelessly to achieve solutions to help those who were being disadvantaged and sought ways to help them. We have discussed options with a variety of member clubs to show solidarity to the clubs most negatively impacted by the SPFL proposal. Relegated clubs must have financial assistance to help soften the landing so they can begin the next season on more equitable footing. Through our discussions it appears that there is an appetite to provide various forms of support from other member clubs if these clubs are in fact relegated. Further details of these acts of kindness and solidarity will be worked out amongst the member clubs. Also, we are sorry to disappoint all of the conspiracy theorists by saying that we were never exposed to any ‘deals’ from either of the Glasgow giants. They both acted, as we would expect, with complete professionalism. Additionally and most importantly for Dundee FC, we spoke to other member clubs regarding their appetite for reconstruction, as the SPFL’s briefing notes does not give us much of a chance and this is the only aspect of any proposal that helps Dundee FC in any way. There are several things that have to be in place in order to deliver a proper opportunity of achieving a better foundation for Scottish Football’s future. First, a working group should be assembled and must have members from the highest levels of Scottish Football with long-term interest in the future success of the game. We need to agree a set of goals that will be the basis of reconstruction which takes into account current and future wants and needs of media; member clubs’ financial benefits; and sporting integrity as a basis. It is our belief that after speaking to numerous clubs that the appetite for reconstruction is there and the intention is to set up an immediate and focused working group to take on this task. The centre will have to accept and support the will of the members. We do believe the centre has made mistakes in this process, namely not taking into consideration any financial fallout to their member clubs and publishing of the incomplete ballot results, which has put Dundee FC in a position to receive criticism and undue torment. If what we achieved in our pause was presented by the SPFL in the first instance we would have voted in favour of the proposal. We would like to thank the fans for their patience, and most of the member clubs for their cooperation and support during this time. Make no mistake, we continue to have a daunting task ahead of us, but we are encouraged by everyday acts of kindness, resolution, and humanity that we are all sharing as we get through this together. Stay safe and hope we see you soon in a newly revamped league.

[esquire8 45,271]

So much for my day in the sun 😂

[Ayrblue1 2,042]

5 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

for whatever reason, our vote did not reach the centre (SPFL.) We were not aware of that,

So they thought their vote went through but then thought they would change it? Fucking idiots man. Still making a cunt of it 

[SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,496]

Interesting that they say at least 2 Premiership clubs changed there stance between Thursday & Friday, one will be the sheep no doubt but who is the other? 

[6superbarry6 14,618]

Scripted long winded pish, to basically say the taigs never bribed us 

[MoodyBlue1872 3,078]

Dundee really think are a big deal in football. 

They are a diddy club with a shitty wee stadium in a random street in Scotland, who haven't filled their small capacity ground in decades. 

Scottish football needs a clearout. 42 clubs  - mostly diddy as fuck - is utterly ridiculous.  4 fucking leagues is mental. 

I hope some do go to the wall. No-one would miss most of them.  For the diddy ones that survive, they need to be put into non-league football set ups. 

[Malkster 5,112]

3 minutes ago, Bad Robot said:

it’s been down since yesterday 

more like taken offline 😉

[bluenoz 32,497]

Lies by the spfl - If there was an error in the email, Dundee would have been notified by the server that it wasn't received. They just said this didn't happen. The spfl received it.

Lies by Dundee - between 5-6 pm they were bought out to change their minds and resubmit. Blaming Partick & Caley for exposing the vote application is changing the direction.

Both are lying.

[gmcf 35,411]

3 minutes ago, Prso's headband said:

By having to come out and say you’ve had no “deals” with the “Glasgow giants” then you have absolutely been having talks about a deal. 
 

The use of “Glasgow giants” instead of Old firm lol

Technically they're probably correct . The tarriers aren't stupid - they'll  be talking to them via their placemen in the spfl .

[esquire8 45,271]

1 - Dundee now putting the blame on SPFL. Trying to counter the SPFL objective of blaming Dundee

2- The two championship clubs are ICT and Partick.

3- The two Premiership clubs that changed were Hibs and Aberdeen. SPFL coercing.

4 - Dundee still admitting they are in discussions with SPFL. Should not be happening. Other clubs lawyers all over this.

[ritchieshearercaldow 22,393]

We are no further forward, it’s going to be a war of attrition, Dundee are going to collapse at some point.