backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, British_Empire said: What about if the evidence isn't criminal though but Rangers know an independent enquiry would be enough to show celtic's influence (which also needs addressed) but we can't get the clubs to vote for an inquiry because they are quite happy. Where does that leave us? Therein lies the rub, the statement from the club makes no accusation of criminality, more of widespread incompetence. The statement is not as strong as suggested, releasing damning evidence can rectify that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Why were the league 1 and 2 votes joined together? has the vote already failed, are we supposed to believe that Stranraer, Airdrie and Falkirk all voted for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, BlueThunder said: What is this Ladbrokes stuff? I hope that is the last time i see this shower on our concourses . Shower of taig bastards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Fuck that wigged up prick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,518 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, The Dude said: Exactly but if Dundee can't prove it was sent (they have so far been unwilling to) it raises massive questions over the timeline they presented Quite easy to prove ask their internet service provider Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Gordon Smith is another prick. Another so-called Rangers man with a voice in the media or airwaves who does us no favours at all. Add him to the massive list along with the rest of the cunts. Asking to dish out the prize monies just now, with us taking a financial hit is only looking after ourselfs? jesus christ. What an open goal - he went onto TalkSport, national talk radio with the goal at his mercy and a free shot and he comes out with that shite. Yet you'll see him walking about Ibrox from time to time in a wee tie with a match day gig. Tell people like Smith he's getting enough money from tarrier funded outlets to push their shite and show him the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,915 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Would be madness for Rangers to release anything they have. Keep the cards very close to our chest whilst ascertaining who else is on board to challenge this mob. Once we have the adequate numbers then go for them, get the resolutions out to suspend the usual suspects & start the inquiry. Then, and only then present our evidence. We need to play this right, if the evidence is good enough it would be criminal to let them worm their way out this by any means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,158 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, bornabear said: Unlike the spfl board who showed the vote before it was completed, our board won't be that stupid. Our board must have some super compelling evidence from the "whistleblower", plus calling out the spfl with a politely worded "corruption" plus demanding an independent inquiry plus 2 heads must roll. A statement like that would certainly be watertight when you consider the consequences if it wasn't. With that amount of ammunition, it would be stupid to show your hand anytime soon. Sit back, watch what your opponent is doing, giving them enough rope etc. In hindsight you may well be right mate, In fact having had a chance to think about it in a more calm and rational manner I wouldn’t be surprised if the likes of the Ross county chairman were being used to try and get Rangers to show their hand so the SPFL know what exactly they are up against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,915 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, backup said: Therein lies the rub, the statement from the club makes no accusation of criminality, more of widespread incompetence. The statement is not as strong as suggested, releasing damning evidence can rectify that. It would be incompetent to release evidence without any formal proceedings taking place. We cannot give them any opportunity to work their way out of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Why were the league 1 and 2 votes joined together? has the vote already failed, are we supposed to believe that Stranraer, Airdrie and Falkirk all voted for this? That's always been the format for voting in the SPFL. It's to stop the lower levels essentially having a veto over the rest of the leagues. It impacts the number of reps on the SPFL board (L1&L2 get one seat between them, Championship gets two and the Premiership get three) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, scottyc06 said: Would be madness for Rangers to release anything they have. Keep the cards very close to our chest whilst ascertaining who else is on board to challenge this mob. Once we have the adequate numbers then go for them, get the resolutions out to suspend the usual suspects & start the inquiry. Then, and only then present our evidence. We need to play this right, if the evidence is good enough it would be criminal to let them worm their way out this by any means. I honestly don't think people are saying that mate (unless I've missed a few posts with people actually saying it) I just think people are curious the level of dirt within the evidence. I'm curious as to how we push through an inquiry, depending on what we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, scottyc06 said: It would be incompetent to release evidence without any formal proceedings taking place. We cannot give them any opportunity to work their way out of this. What proceedings ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, The Dude said: To a much lesser degree. It's being reported down south now that, rather than a £300m+ rebate for the games missed this season, Sky will just settle for the PL making it up in additional games next season. We aren't being afforded such a luxury as BT's contract ends in the summer and has no way of being made up with extra games. Sorry but this argument does not stack up. The breach of contract is about the number of games played and shown by the broadcaster. It makes no difference if we end the league now and call it null and void compared to ending it now and declaring a champion. In either circumstance, the broadcaster has been able to show X number of the contracted Y games. Down south, they are talking about making up the number of games next season, so sky are being given the number of games they paid for. If we end the season early then our contract is has not been fulfilled. Calling the league null and void does no more harm to the contract with the broadcaster than calling it early and naming a champion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, scottyc06 said: It would be incompetent to release evidence without any formal proceedings taking place. We cannot give them any opportunity to work their way out of this. But there might be a point where you have to so, in order to get proceedings started. Like a chicken and egg predicament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, backup said: It’s a crop I made from drysdale’s whatsapp post. I wasn't having a pop at you backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: That's always been the format for voting in the SPFL. It's to stop the lower levels essentially having a veto over the rest of the leagues. It impacts the number of reps on the SPFL board (L1&L2 get one seat between them, Championship gets two and the Premiership get three) Thought they’d tried to pull a fast one, as I can see 3 possibly 4 clubs who 100% wouldn’t want the season theme end as is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Unless the tv companies have a force majeure/pandemic clause in their contracts, they haven’t a leg to stand on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,202 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 45 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Go get him girl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,202 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, pcbear said: Lots of guesswork bouncing this thread all over the place, I assume Mr Park will have all the bullets in place ready to fire so best wait and see our next move, Spot on mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanRain 2,845 Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 Worth reminding people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, backup said: The evidence needs to be presented to the police, who would investigate and report to the Crown Office, anything else is conjecture. That's a potential bundle of evidence lost then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I think this is the quietest I’ve ever heard the bheasts and Liewell. .Very revealing eh Or maybe we will hear from them in coming hours 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, backup said: Unless the tv companies have a force majeure/pandemic clause in their contracts, they haven’t a leg to stand on. TV companies are in a fairly strong position actually. They will have been contracted to a certain amount of games in a season. If they don't get all the games they have signed up for, then they could withhold a proportion of the cash in the contract. What doesn't change a thing in the TV companies favour is calling the league void or calling it early and naming a champion. Either outcome still means that they have not been able to show the number of games in their contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,158 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: I think this is the quietest I’ve ever heard the bheasts and Liewell. .Very revealing eh Or maybe we will hear from them in coming hours 🤔 You no heard mate, Nothing to do with them apparently 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I wonder if we could come out with some of the milder evidence to get the inquiry started and then feed them the truly fuck the Scottish football system stuff then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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