BroonBear 696 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 hours ago, bornabear said: Spfl know that if we get around 50% or even more of the vote , a vote of confidence may arise. I say may, as, if Doncaster were to resign after what would be a disasterous vote for them, I think negotiations behind closed doors might take place. DP would ask, nay demand, the fat boy goes too, if not, then a confidence vote. Tomorrow's vote is just the beginning of what could be a long protracted business. You maybe right but it can't just stop at those two going. From what i have read, the actions from both of them at Brechin and Dunfermline needs to be investigated. We are after all looking to help Scottish football from top to bottom. Nothing should stop Rangers taking this all the way until it has been investigated. This is for Kelty, Bora, Partick, Falkirk and ICT as much as it is for Hearts and Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Dickie said: 11am with the vote expected by 10 am. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the vote was Yes-18 No- 39 Nothing to see here, move along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweetheart said: This is how I think the vote will pan out Scottish Premiership YES: Rangers,Heart of Midlothian,Aberdeen,Hibernian,Livingston,StJohnstone NO: celtic,Hamilton Academical,Kilmarnock,St Mirren,Motherwell,RossCounty Scottish Championship YES: Inverness Caledonian Thistle,PartickThistle,(Alloa Athletic,Arbroath,Ayr United,Greenock Morton,Queen of the South) NO: Dundee,Dundee United,Dunfermline Athletic Scottish League One YES: Falkirk,Dumbarton,Clyde,EastFife,Stranraer,Airdrieonians,Forfar Athletic,Peterhead,Raith Rovers NO: Montrose Scottish League Two YES: Edinburgh City, Stirling Albion,(Albion Rovers,Annan Athletic,Cove Rangers,Cowdenbeath,Elgin City,Queen's Park,Stenhousemuir) NO: Brechin City Voteless YES: Kelty and Brora Some fairly wild assumptions in there. From the Premiership only us, Hearts & Aberdeen will vote in favour. Small chance Hibs might. Championship: Alloa will absolutely vote no, Morton, Arbroath & QOTS almost certainly will as well. It was hoped Ayr would votes yes but looks like they’ll vote no League 1: Falkirk & Stranraer will vote yes. Raith & Montrose are guaranteed to vote no. The rest unknown with Dumbarton, East Fife & Clyde the most likely to support League 2: Brechin & Cove will vote no, with the rest unknown, Stenhousemuir & Edinburgh City most likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,988 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 In a sense sections of the media have done their paymasters job here. The last few days there has been a drip fed narrative of 'civil war', distrust and a clear setting up of dividing lines. We won't win this vote today but I do hope that enough clubs support the call for an independent inquiry that the SPFL leadership are shown to have no confidence. It just absolutely baffles me how anyone could not want an inquiry. Surely even if there is truly nothing to see here, no administrative deficiencies it is always good to be analysed from the outside. There's always room for improvement no matter how good you think current practices may be. I do note that most of the brow beating comes from the old boys club that sit on the SPFL board (us aside) and that they are trying to sully the name of some good business people. At the very least the professionalism of these people and the ones charged with running the game has been atrocious. At worst, collusion and skullduggery. Again though, we see the influence exerted by the few or the one and how Scottish football has been consumed and blinded by a hatred of one club and one section of society. It does boil down to that as if it were a purely football and governance issue then clubs would vote for the inquiry. It's the right and sensible thing to do. Being analysed is a good thing. It helps you see your mistakes and your strengths. Whatever happens today I'm proud of our club from top to bottom and also proud of the other clubs in Scotland who are voting to do the right thing no matter how this pans out. Shows you something when community run clubs like Kelty and Brora are better run and more professional than some of the league clubs, some of them an absolute disgrace. Feels like the journey is just starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Swally said: Sadly it’s not as pithy, nothing will equal Blinky Wan Baw I’m damn proud of my Blinky Wanbaw But the sad thing is I will never match it 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,005 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 hours ago, psb07158 said: Is he wrong? Not necessarily, however there have been that many 'sleeper' accounts that I am ver suspicious of people that have been members for 7 years and their first post is not to offer opinion but to abuse another poster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: Some fairly wild assumptions in there. From the Premiership only us, Hearts & Aberdeen will vote in favour. Small chance Hibs might. Championship: Alloa will absolutely vote no, Morton, Arbroath & QOTS almost certainly will as well. It was hoped Ayr would votes yes but looks like they’ll vote no League 1: Falkirk & Stranraer will vote yes. Raith & Montrose are guaranteed to vote no. The rest unknown with Dumbarton, East Fife & Clyde the most likely to support League 2: Brechin & Cove will vote no, with the rest unknown, Stenhousemuir & Edinburgh City most likely I did say this is how I think the vote will pan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Heshootshescores said: The trouble these clubs are going to, to avoid an independent investigation into what should be an organisation setup for the benefit of ALL clubs, is quite extraordinary. Worthy of an investigation in its own right. This every day of the week. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, WATP-FOREVER said: @admin when was the last time we had a +1,000 pager - must be during the charles green era Well to be fair . They have let everyone lump everything into this one thread . Probably easier to keep an eye on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweetheart said: This is how I think the vote will pan out Scottish Premiership YES: Rangers,Heart of Midlothian,Aberdeen,Hibernian,Livingston,StJohnstone NO: celtic,Hamilton Academical,Kilmarnock,St Mirren,Motherwell,RossCounty Scottish Championship YES: Inverness Caledonian Thistle,PartickThistle,(Alloa Athletic,Arbroath,Ayr United,Greenock Morton,Queen of the South) NO: Dundee,Dundee United,Dunfermline Athletic Scottish League One YES: Falkirk,Dumbarton,Clyde,EastFife,Stranraer,Airdrieonians,Forfar Athletic,Peterhead,Raith Rovers NO: Montrose Scottish League Two YES: Edinburgh City, Stirling Albion,(Albion Rovers,Annan Athletic,Cove Rangers,Cowdenbeath,Elgin City,Queen's Park,Stenhousemuir) NO: Brechin City Voteless YES: Kelty and Brora I hope that is the case, but I think it may well be very optimistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,988 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: In a sense sections of the media have done their paymasters job here. The last few days there has been a drip fed narrative of 'civil war', distrust and a clear setting up of dividing lines. We won't win this vote today but I do hope that enough clubs support the call for an independent inquiry that the SPFL leadership are shown to have no confidence. It just absolutely baffles me how anyone could not want an inquiry. Surely even if there is truly nothing to see here, no administrative deficiencies it is always good to be analysed from the outside. There's always room for improvement no matter how good you think current practices may be. I do note that most of the brow beating comes from the old boys club that sit on the SPFL board (us aside) and that they are trying to sully the name of some good business people. At the very least the professionalism of these people and the ones charged with running the game has been atrocious. At worst, collusion and skullduggery. Again though, we see the influence exerted by the few or the one and how Scottish football has been consumed and blinded by a hatred of one club and one section of society. It does boil down to that as if it were a purely football and governance issue then clubs would vote for the inquiry. It's the right and sensible thing to do. Being analysed is a good thing. It helps you see your mistakes and your strengths. Whatever happens today I'm proud of our club from top to bottom and also proud of the other clubs in Scotland who are voting to do the right thing no matter how this pans out. Shows you something when community run clubs like Kelty and Brora are better run and more professional than some of the league clubs, some of them an absolute disgrace. Feels like the journey is just starting. Posted before finishing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweetheart said: This is how I think the vote will pan out Scottish Premiership YES: Rangers,Heart of Midlothian,Aberdeen,Hibernian,Livingston,StJohnstone NO: celtic,Hamilton Academical,Kilmarnock,St Mirren,Motherwell,RossCounty Scottish Championship YES: Inverness Caledonian Thistle,PartickThistle,(Alloa Athletic,Arbroath,Ayr United,Greenock Morton,Queen of the South) NO: Dundee,Dundee United,Dunfermline Athletic Scottish League One YES: Falkirk,Dumbarton,Clyde,EastFife,Stranraer,Airdrieonians,Forfar Athletic,Peterhead,Raith Rovers NO: Montrose Scottish League Two YES: Edinburgh City, Stirling Albion,(Albion Rovers,Annan Athletic,Cove Rangers,Cowdenbeath,Elgin City,Queen's Park,Stenhousemuir) NO: Brechin City Voteless YES: Kelty and Brora Are you mad? As much as id love it to be true the vote is likely to be at least 70% No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Parlaneloyal said: Are you mad? As much as id love it to be true the vote is likely to be at least 70% No. just optimistic that other clubs have read and understood the dossier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,289 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The sooner these propaganda pushers go to the wall (DR and Sun) the better. It's not healthy to have one person wield such a powerful influence over the national game. Either that or the cancer itself is outed and removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the cry was no 3,034 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweetheart said: This is how I think the vote will pan out Scottish Premiership YES: Rangers,Heart of Midlothian,Aberdeen,Hibernian,Livingston,StJohnstone NO: celtic,Hamilton Academical,Kilmarnock,St Mirren,Motherwell,RossCounty Scottish Championship YES: Inverness Caledonian Thistle,PartickThistle,(Alloa Athletic,Arbroath,Ayr United,Greenock Morton,Queen of the South) NO: Dundee,Dundee United,Dunfermline Athletic Scottish League One YES: Falkirk,Dumbarton,Clyde,EastFife,Stranraer,Airdrieonians,Forfar Athletic,Peterhead,Raith Rovers NO: Montrose Scottish League Two YES: Edinburgh City, Stirling Albion,(Albion Rovers,Annan Athletic,Cove Rangers,Cowdenbeath,Elgin City,Queen's Park,Stenhousemuir) NO: Brechin City Voteless YES: Kelty and Brora Livingston will vote whatever way the are told to by the jap. Their ceo is a bitter bitter rancid tarrier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,700 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The Daily Record have done everything they possibly could to discredit Rangers case and strengthen the case of the SPFL. They have lied on several occasions. Once this is over I’d like us to look at the access and press privileges we give them and remove everything. 👍🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,446 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Heshootshescores said: The trouble these clubs are going to, to avoid an independent investigation into what should be an organisation setup for the benefit of ALL clubs, is quite extraordinary. Worthy of an investigation in its own right. And paraphrasing what Gerry Britton said, Surely an organisation that has admitted that things could have been done better, would welcome an independent investigation that would help improve their governance. Unless they’ve got something to hide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,988 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, B1872 said: The Daily Record have done everything they possibly could to discredit Rangers case and strengthen the case of the SPFL. They have lied on several occasions. Once this is over I’d like us to look at the access and press privileges we give them and remove everything. 👍🏻 Absolutely. They have been so transparent in their agenda. There has been one writer for the DR who has been fair, but Jackson is a disgrace. Same with the Herald. A good thing to come out of this is the number of journos who have outed themselves and the ones who are there for the right reasons and have been a bit fairer. Definitely remove access for the former. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,352 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, B1872 said: The Daily Record have done everything they possibly could to discredit Rangers case and strengthen the case of the SPFL. They have lied on several occasions. Once this is over I’d like us to look at the access and press privileges we give them and remove everything. 👍🏻 Gary Ralston has been excellent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,988 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Dickie1963 said: Gary Ralston has been excellent That's the one. Couldn't mind his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroonBear 696 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: just optimistic that other clubs have read and understood the dossier. Or simply want to prove all is above board, show they are being "lead" correctly and that they were provided ALL information prior to undertaking a massive vote for the game in Scotland for FREE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, B1872 said: The Daily Record have done everything they possibly could to discredit Rangers case and strengthen the case of the SPFL. They have lied on several occasions. Once this is over I’d like us to look at the access and press privileges we give them and remove everything. 👍🏻 Personally I would like the club to look at press privileges as a whole and only give them to qualified sports journalist. I think pundits with opinion pieces have damaged the game over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just a little reminder of what our great club is up against today .A decade of unsurpassed and unreported corruption on the grandest scale .From 2010 to present times . And covering up child abuse for the past 40 plus years . They have had plenty of years to get everyone into their positions of power to protect this evil football club . And even after today . Like a vampire in its coffin , it will use it's captured ones to show their poisoned fangs on it's behalf . In the guise of Scotland's pitiful and compliant media Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc holliday 1,653 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 WE have played this matter absolutely correctly despite and according to proper protocol,unlike and contrasted with the actions of the SPFL and certain member clubs, irrespective of some very unfair,shoddy and far from objective reporting from certain sections of the media but that was to be fully expected. Given we have followed due process ,and the rebuttal of our request for an Independent Inquiry. Following the EGM this morning I hope and expect that Rangers will announce that they are mounting a Legal Case against the SPFL. There is a real sense of anger and injustice within our Boardroom which is fully endorsed and backed by our huge fanbase. I hope the club ask for crowdfunding from the the support to assist with the costs of the legal action. We are Glasgow Rangers , lets get fully behind our club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,988 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweetheart said: Personally I would like the club to look at press privileges as a whole and only give them to qualified sports journalist. I think pundits with opinion pieces have damaged the game over the years. Completely agree with that. Most of the pieces you see from chief sports writers are dressed up as opinion pieces, probably just so they can legally get away with potentially libellous points of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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