The Dude 20,026 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: 5 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: 1:Drysdale is the author of that information. 2:Unsure, waiting for outcome of police investigation before making any statement...maybe? 3:The evidence Rangers have has never been made public. And its Drysdale who is the author of the information which says Dundee's vote was submitted AND Drysdale who posted the whatsapp picture. If we're taking Drysdale at his word that he submitted the vote with no evidence to back it up, why wouldn't we take his word Nelms told him not to resubmit? If I'm being honest, I'd be STUNNED if there's any police involvement at this point. Had it been passed to the polis, you can bet your last that it would have leaked by now. Rangers' evidence hasn't been made public but it the polis are involved, wouldn't the whistleblower have gone there instead of to Rangers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,620 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweetheart said: Has anyone done a timeline of the events so far? Aye. We're on page 139 of it 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,346 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 When the compliant tarrier media are turning on their club you know it’s big. We’ve been battered from pillar to post for years, clubs have lost millions/sponsors etc to benefit one club in the top league who were walking into the CL unchallenged for years on the spin. It’s our time now to turn the tables again and I believe that’s coming now, it has too. Lawwell knew of UEFAs position about abandoning leagues, that’s why this has been railroaded so quickly so that they can be given the title. The fact that they’ve been untouchable for years has led to a perception they can literally do what they want, only this time someone’s fucked up along the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Ally McCoist has a chance to let a lot of English listeners know about the corruption in the Scottish game. Hopefully he grabs it with both hands ans hammers that fat alike bastard Brazil at the same time. Their whole 8 in a row must be under suspicion now. Their favourite ref Kevin Clancy started reffing in 2013, his very first game was in the SPL. Fast tracked by whom and based on what? Has any other ref went straight to the top league like that before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, tina-duncan said: What do we know so far about the evidence we have? Is it the same as whats out in the public just now, or is it claimed we have something else that no ones seen? If Dundee tried to work a flanker did they not think it would be exposed anyway? Or did they think the 'unexpected bargaining power' would get them off the hook? Dundee, and the Thistles always had that leverage anyway as they knew they could crash the proposal at any time. The only thing that makes sense is Dundee have been pushed/persuaded to wiithdraw. If Rangers have clear evidence of this things will get very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,321 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: “Record journo talk sense” shocker!! Glad you posted that, we really need to be told EXACTLY why the least contentious, the fairest and most obvious solution was taken off the table before discussions or voting began. Who decided it wasn’t an option? When? Why? Who did he consult? The “losers” (scum, Dundee scum, cove) have worked and their efforts would end up counting for nothing. But that doesn’t begin to compare to relegating teams who could easily have stayed up. That’s not unfortunate, that is unjust. We haven’t pushed for null and void nor should we but I would expect others in the media to start asking the questions above. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,620 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: And its Drysdale who is the author of the information which says Dundee's vote was submitted AND Drysdale who posted the whatsapp picture. If we're taking Drysdale at his word that he submitted the vote with no evidence to back it up, why wouldn't we take his word Nelms told him not to resubmit? If I'm being honest, I'd be STUNNED if there's any police involvement at this point. Had it been passed to the polis, you can bet your last that it would have leaked by now. Rangers' evidence hasn't been made public but it the polis are involved, wouldn't the whistleblower have gone there instead of to Rangers? Polis too busy Tik Tok dancin to be bothered by trivial stuff like corruption 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Has anyone done a timeline of the events so far? 2009 Neil Doncaster got his job at the SPL 2009-2020 Scottish football has been corrupt In a nutshell 😂👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Aye. We're on page 139 of it 😁 LOL 😁 I'll rephrase has anyone done a bullet point timeline of events? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,352 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, pcbear said: You guessing all this or have you seen his deadline script? Guessing. Turns out I was wrong. Ally is on script Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,620 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, Sweetheart said: LOL 😁 I'll rephrase has anyone done a bullet point timeline of events? Well volunteered Corporal SH 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,873 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Has anyone done a timeline of the events so far? stolen from FF Wednesday 5.33pm Stewart Robertson sent a copy of RFC resolution to Neil Doncaster 6.24pm Neil Doncaster said he would forward to the Board and be back in touch shortly Thursday 11.03 am ND emailed back to say that before the resolution could be circulated by the Board there needed to be a requisition by at least 3 clubs 1.43pm James Blair spoke to Rod McKenzie regarding the resolution. There was no suggestion of any issues with the text 2.50pm RFC emailed the resolution to the SPFL SPFL acknowledged receipt shortly thereafter. No issues were raised with the text then or at any other time until we contacted them further. James Blair was advised by Stewart Robertson late Thursday evening that the SPFL had suggested to Championship clubs that the resolution was not competent and wouldn’t be sent to members. They were being told this before the SPFL had communicated with us on the resolution. 10.17pm James Blair emailed Rod McKenzie asking if he could advise how the resolution might be amended to overcome any concerns the SPFL might have. 10.51pm Rod McKenzie replied saying he had forwarded to Neil and Iain Blair. He did not otherwise respond 11.25 pm JB emailed back saying it would be helpful to hear from him in advance of the board meeting scheduled for this morning. That didn’t occur. Friday 11.00am James Blair emailed this morning and then spoke to Rod McKenzie. 1452 Partick Thistle 1st to vote No and put vote on Championship Whatsapp group 1624 Dundee vote No and put vote on Championship Whatsapp group and publish statement to group that appears on Dundee website at 1703 1639 ICT vote No and put vote on Championship Whatsapp group 1652 Dundee text ‘The Die is Cast’ DFC vote submitted on WhatsApp group 1700 SPFL Voting ’Deadline’ 1703 Dundee publish statement on their website 1807 Dundee Secretary gives WhatsApp group ‘solemn promise’ that vote was cast 1821 Dundee WhatsApp that ‘presented with unexpected bargaining position Dundee’s owner requested they hold back resubmission of vote. Stresses that this wasn’t planned by Dundee 1832 WhatsApp group again, Dundee Secretary ‘imagines’ Neil Doncaster will have spoken to Peter Liewell just after 5pm Saturday 1500 Rangers release our statement of war Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Ally McCoist has a chance to let a lot of English listeners know about the corruption in the Scottish game. Hopefully he grabs it with both hands ans hammers that fat alike bastard Brazil at the same time. Their whole 8 in a row must be under suspicion now. Their favourite ref Kevin Clancy started reffing in 2013, his very first game was in the SPL. Fast tracked by whom and based on what? Has any other ref went straight to the top league like that before? Verifiably false. He done several league one games in 09/10 League One, League Two, Challenge Cup, Scottish Cup and Championship in 10/11 Premiership, League One, League Two,, Scottish Cup and two internationals in 11/12 Prem, championship, L1, L2, LC, CC, SC, international friendlies and two world cup qualifiers in 12/13. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,650 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Little weasel will be gushing over Brazil’s every word no doubts .I will be astonished if he isn’t apologetic You could not be more wrong! Plus calling a Rangers legend a little weasel is bang out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,134 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Ally McCoist has a chance to let a lot of English listeners know about the corruption in the Scottish game. Hopefully he grabs it with both hands ans hammers that fat alike bastard Brazil at the same time. Their whole 8 in a row must be under suspicion now. Their favourite ref Kevin Clancy started reffing in 2013, his very first game was in the SPL. Fast tracked by whom and based on what? Has any other ref went straight to the top league like that before? Not listened to Talksport in ages but surely to fuck Adrian Durham will be all over this tomorrow if he is still there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,352 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, The Dude said: He's repeatedly said the opposite so far, why would he change now? Aye apparently so. Knickers in a twist syndrome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,072 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Polis too busy Tik Tok dancin to be bothered by trivial stuff like corruption 👍 VID-20200412-WA0001.mp4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Verifiably false. He done several league one games in 09/10 League One, League Two, Challenge Cup, Scottish Cup and Championship in 10/11 Premiership, League One, League Two,, Scottish Cup and two internationals in 11/12 Prem, championship, L1, L2, LC, CC, SC, international friendlies and two world cup qualifiers in 12/13. My bad. Looked on Soccerbase and it didn’t give anything before 12/13 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,685 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said: Why would they send a signed sheet to the other clubs showing a no vote. That's not dishonest. That would be something much more sinister. Like I said. I’m only guessing that they did this to put themselves in poll position to get a deal that suits them. Did they do it in isolation or were they tapped up, I don’t know. Hopefully that is where the evidence the club say they have comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne8 3,378 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, TEFTONG said: VID-20200412-WA0001.mp4 At least they are doing that they are not stopping cunts coming out of tesco 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,072 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Apologies for posting that. I've been on a 24 hour shift and only got about 4 hours kip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,346 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Whole thing needs be ripped up, even down to the referees. There isn’t a season gone by where a ref is close to picking up a winners medal cause he’s reffed the same team that many times during a season. Clancy was on track to ref about a third of celtics games this season, how is that even possible when there’s at least 6 refs available every weekend? Nobody can come up with a valid explanation for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,685 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, BoydsFavouriteDonut said: Ideally, we have something from the SPFL side discussing how to deal with Dundee’s “vote” or a quid pro quo for them dropping it. Don’t think release of the screenshots would constitute whistleblowing. I hope so. We need something far more damming to push this through. I can’t see the club firing shots at them if we didn’t have it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,620 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gascoigne8 said: At least they are doing that they are not stopping cunts coming out of tesco 🙂 You the one on the left? 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,346 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Dundees vote now means fuck all anyway. There are a good few teams that can now challenge the whole integrity of the vote considering they published the votes before they were recovered in full Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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