British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said: I’m sure an independent enquiry can be asked for by the clubs and the board don’t have a say. Just need a certain amount of backup and a valid reason. There has never been a better reason. But if they are complicit in voting the way certain parties wanted, as have been claimed, why would they implicate themselves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,297 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mr Soprano said: Listen, just cos you’re having brunch after mass doesn’t mean every cunt else is pal. 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,456 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, backup said: ‘If‘ we have proof of criminality (bribery) an independent inquiry is and would be secondary to a criminal investigation/trial. Get it out what we have, we can then see if we are pushed back onto the back foot, or indeed have a very strong presentable case in our favour.....so which one will it be ? Does offering the services of three or four youth/fringe players constitute “bribery”? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, backup said: What a telling comment from drysdale. The dude appeaser will have another mock up in about a few minutes to defend the SPFL and by inference the scum. as to how it cannot be proven or true (or indeed who sent it...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Could it be we will on Tuesday, it’s still a holiday weekend 👍 We are on cov-19 time, normality is suspended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Colin Traive said: Does offering the services of three or four youth/fringe players constitute “bribery”? They can only register two though so why would they get three or four? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,631 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, magic8ball said: They have tried to be clever here ,it’s only the championship and below that’s settled now ,they are still waiting on UEFA calling the big shot ,But very sneakily they are setting a precedent Ultimately that is what they are attempting to do. If you call the winners and losers in the lower leagues, it makes sense to do exactly the same thing in the top league when the time comes. So obvious that it’s actually embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Malvern said: The dude appeaser will have another mock up in about a few minutes to defend the SPFL and by inference the scum. as to how it cannot be proven or true (or indeed who sent it...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Malvern said: The dude appeaser will have another mock up in about a few minutes to defend the SPFL and by inference the scum. as to how it cannot be proven or true (or indeed who sent it...). Mate, you should try actually reading my posts rather than getting sand in your cunt because you read my name at the top of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, British_Empire said: But if they are complicit in voting the way certain parties wanted, as have been claimed, why would they implicate themselves? That’s a very good point. Hopefully we only need good reason then 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Does offering the services of three or four youth/fringe players constitute “bribery”? That would have the cover-all of Inchoate offences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, British_Empire said: I’m sure an independent enquiry can be asked for by the clubs and the board don’t have a say. If criminality is known, again any inquiry would be after and secondary to criminal investigation/proceedings, if any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, backup said: If criminality is known, again any inquiry would be after and secondary to criminal investigation/proceedings, if any. In that case, could Rangers present the evidence to lawyers and they could facilitate proceedings and an independent enquiry would be forthcoming, even if the majority of other teams don't vote for it anyway? there's a mechanism for it even if the teams don't vote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Malvern said: The dude appeaser will have another mock up in about a few minutes to defend the SPFL and by inference the scum. as to how it cannot be proven or true (or indeed who sent it...). It’s a crop I made from drysdale’s whatsapp post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 People need to calm down and trust Rangers on this one park went nuclear yesterday you don't do that without substantial evidence. No just some what's app messages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Lots of guesswork bouncing this thread all over the place, I assume Mr Park will have all the bullets in place ready to fire so best wait and see our next move, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, British_Empire said: In that case, could Rangers present the evidence to lawyers and they could facilitate proceedings and an independent enquiry would be forthcoming, even if the majority of other teams don't vote for it anyway? there's a mechanism for it even if the teams don't vote? The evidence needs to be presented to the police, who would investigate and report to the Crown Office, anything else is conjecture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,287 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, KingKirk said: People need to calm down and trust Rangers on this one park went nuclear yesterday you don't do that without substantial evidence. No just some what's app messages. Exactly. Rangers lawyers are not going to turn over evidence to the perpetrator just because they ask for it. We all want to know but I would be surprised if Rangers make a statement today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, backup said: The evidence needs to be presented to the police, who would investigate and report to the Crown Office, anything else is conjecture. What about if the evidence isn't criminal though but Rangers know an independent enquiry would be enough to show celtic's influence (which also needs addressed) but we can't get the clubs to vote for an inquiry because they are quite happy. Where does that leave us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Quote Former Rangers player and director of football Gordon Smith has accused the club of only being out for themselves following their accusations of corruption against the SPFL. The Glasgow side called for the SPFL’s chief executive Neil Doncaster to be suspended after the governing body’s vote on how to end the season. Rangers say a whistleblower has provided them with allegations that the vote on how to end the Scottish Championship, League One and League Two was not carried out fairly. A statement read: “We have been presented with evidence via a whistleblower that raises serious concerns surrounding the SPFL’s processes relating to its stewardship of the voting on the resolution presented to member clubs. “Rangers’ Interim Chairman, Douglas Park, attempted to discuss this evidence with SPFL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, who initially refused to do so. The SPFL followed up that call with an e-mail, which we believe was a thinly disguised attempt to silence legitimate concerns. “Rangers will not be bullied into silence. We believe it is in the interests of all Scottish clubs and supporters that the evidence, which is alarming, be addressed as quickly as possible. “The voting debacle and the evidence we possess raise serious questions concerning the corporate governance of the SPFL.” Meanwhile, Gers’ interim chairman Douglas Park added: “The lack of leadership and responsibility from the SPFL as a members’ organisation has shocked me. “We call for the suspension of the SPFL’s chief executive Neil Doncaster and its legal adviser, Rod McKenzie, while an independent investigation is conducted.” It’s a huge stand Rangers have taken, however, Smith believes this has only been done to serve the club’s own interests. Smith, who held the position of Scottish Football Association chief executive for three years, suggested that Rangers and every other club votes based on how it suits their club ahead of what’s good for the game as a whole. https://talksport.com/football/693730/Rangers-themselves-amid-spfl-corruption-allegations/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, KingKirk said: People need to calm down and trust Rangers on this one park went nuclear yesterday you don't do that without substantial evidence. No just some what's app messages. Way to many people getting their soiled knickers in a twist . It is embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,186 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said: Time for Rangers to come out All Guns Fucking Blazing and get The Evidence in The Public Domain, Only way to get these sycophantic cunts back in their box. Unlike the spfl board who showed the vote before it was completed, our board won't be that stupid. Our board must have some super compelling evidence from the "whistleblower", plus calling out the spfl with a politely worded "corruption" plus demanding an independent inquiry plus 2 heads must roll. A statement like that would certainly be watertight when you consider the consequences if it wasn't. With that amount of ammunition, it would be stupid to show your hand anytime soon. Sit back, watch what your opponent is doing, giving them enough rope etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,439 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 What is this Ladbrokes story? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: Exactly. Rangers lawyers are not going to turn over evidence to the perpetrator just because they ask for it. We all want to know but I would be surprised if Rangers make a statement today. I don't think we need another statement the now mate this has a long way to go yet. We have all the aces here. The voting is utterly meaning now regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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