Inigo 32,526 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I think you give them to much credit honestly. I dunno. One thing these kinds of folk tend to be concerned about is their own reputation. Avoid the worst outcome... don't be shown to have ignored impropriety staring you in the face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hutton2008 said: I’m a tarrier Knew it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Gollum on the bbc says he has spoken to several clubs and although they agree there are issues highlighted, none of them thinks it’s enough to persuade them to back Rangers. Not even surprised. Circling the wagons? Was never going to go any other way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wafflesniffer 399 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Gollum on the bbc says he has spoken to several clubs and although they agree there are issues highlighted, none of them thinks it’s enough to persuade them to back Rangers. Not even surprised. what a cesspit Scottish football is. Populated by a majority of short sighted, agenda driven fuckwits. If the last few weeks isn't enough for them to put their hands up for a fair and impartial governing body then what's the fucking point up here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 The SPFL have not answered any question and put out their expected condemnation of the allegations as a whole. But it's up to the clubs. If any other club apart from the obvious publicly states that these allegations do not merit an independent investigation they should be very very ashamed. Maybe I'm daft but I'm optimistic we might just get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,600 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inigo said: For appearances? Give folk the chance to do the right thing. Would seem like showing you acted in good faith etc, etc, by escalating in stages and only going to court when none of the concerns were reasonably addressed. Keeping moral high ground. Would work in any other country bar Scotland, yet we're constantly told that we have people running the club who are on the same wavelength as us, which is obviously complete and utter ballocks. Give Scottish football the chance to do the right thing when the lot of them wanted us gone in 2012,fuck me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 People may be disappointed but Rangers as a member club are fully justified in highlighting maladministration to the other members. To simply accept what was and is going on would have been totally remiss of our board. The problem with the SPFL is that 42 clubs are involved and it seems clear that a significant number of their chairmen and chief executives are morally bankrupt and or gutless. Hopefully there may be a route for legal action for which we do not require the backing of the other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wafflesniffer 399 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hutton2008 said: Their tarrier Deloitte investigation was solely on the events of their resolution and how they conducted themselves, timeline and all. No? The Deloitte 'investigation' wasn't shared with members until it was complete; no one had a say in the parameters of the investigation and it specifically left most of the events/timeline surrounding the vote out. A sham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,873 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Robmc1 said: celtic, Dundee Utd, Dundee... per chance?:-)... St Boo, livi, murdewell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 39 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: John Nelms, having backtracked on the initial vote, offering to negotiate to get Dundee United and Raith Rovers to forego some monies,so it could be given to Partick Thistle and Stranraer, as well as arranging friendlies with big hitters, according to the document. Fucking scandalous. "Here, have some cash and shut the fuck up". I do believe that is an ideal example of corruption Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,363 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: what a cesspit Scottish football is. Populated by a majority of short sighted, agenda driven fuckwits. If the last few weeks isn't enough for them to put their hands up for a fair and impartial governing body then what's the fucking point up here. Zero, take them fucks to court whilst leaving for the North West Counties League in the English Pyramid. Scottish Football is officially dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets go 55 2,136 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Letter sent to UEFA 6 days before the vote,Lies. Lap dogs McArthur,Mulraney, threatening other clubs. Cant finish the league but will make sure the Scottish Cup is completed no matter when , how can you complete a cup when the teams left will have different players. Oh forgot, because the scum are still involved. All the points raised by Rangers are valid but will probably be kicked into touch . Take the cunts to court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bydo 3,211 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, left winger said: Just read it all. Don’t know the legalities of all that was said, but any logical reading of it surely says there has to be an independent enquiry. There's your problem. Too many have already made their minds up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton2008 646 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: The Deloitte 'investigation' wasn't shared with members until it was complete; no one had a say in the parameters of the investigation and it specifically left most of the events/timeline surrounding the vote out. A sham. 100% it was a sham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Flicking through the pish being posted by so called journos online and not one of them are looking into the questions we’re asking, their simply brushing it off as “no evidence”. all this reporting about no evidence and they had one of the biggest scandals in sporting history with all the evidence against celtic regarding child abuse and nothing from any of them. absolutely riddled with scum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,131 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said: Flicking through the pish being posted by so called journos online and not one of them are looking into the questions we’re asking, their simply brushing it off as “no evidence”. all this reporting about no evidence and they had one of the biggest scandals in sporting history with all the evidence against celtic regarding child abuse and nothing from any of them. absolutely riddled with scum. Seen on twitter someone say it's easy to spot a journalist over a reporter today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Would work in any other country bar Scotland, yet we're constantly told that we have people running the club who are on the same wavelength as us, which is obviously complete and utter ballocks. Give Scottish football the chance to do the right thing when the lot of them wanted us gone in 2012,fuck me. You have to be seen to. You'd end up losing the few allies you have and it'd end up just looking like an angry crusade. As things stand we already have some clubs as allies, and against the odds have some press asking questions. I suspect even courts would look more favourably on a considered approach of encouraging clubs to do what's right rather than going for hell for leather on a crusade from the off. 100% the way we're going about things just now looks correct, professional and patient and shows up the SPFL approach in stark contrast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidermansGaffer 2,552 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, left winger said: Just read it all. Don’t know the legalities of all that was said, but any logical reading of it surely says there has to be an independent enquiry. Pretty much sums up what I thought too. Very clear breakdown of all their shenanigans & lies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: what a cesspit Scottish football is. Populated by a majority of short sighted, agenda driven fuckwits. If the last few weeks isn't enough for them to put their hands up for a fair and impartial governing body then what's the fucking point up here. Nail on head buddy. Not only is Scottish football filled with corruption but even when Rangers and some others point it out the equally corrupt Scottish media fail to comment about it and actually do their best to cover it up. Not the only thing that Scottish football and the Scottish media have brushed under the carpet in the last 50 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,529 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 There's no way we will get the number of clubs required to vote. Court is our only option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wafflesniffer 399 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, magic8ball said: I do believe that is an ideal example of corruption Indeed. Who gave him the authority to negotiate the redistribution of money and to arrange friendlies? Even if the money was only redistributed having landed in United and Raith's pockets, how do they square that in their accounts and with their fans? I'd be astonished if clubs (even scum like United) would put themselves in that position without word from the SPFL directly or indirectly. That said, nothing should surprise anymore really! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,782 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Hutton2008 said: Their tarrier Deloitte investigation was solely on the events of their resolution and how they conducted themselves, timeline and all. No? So you have no real questions over this inquiry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,363 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, MorelosRangers said: There's no way we will get the number of clubs required to vote. Court is our only option. Refuse any and all support to clubs who vote against this obvious need for an independent investigation. No away tickets, nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,873 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: what a cesspit Scottish football is. Populated by a majority of short sighted, agenda driven fuckwits. If the last few weeks isn't enough for them to put their hands up for a fair and impartial governing body then what's the fucking point up here. in spades Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,687 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, MorelosRangers said: There's no way we will get the number of clubs required to vote. Court is our only option. This in its simplicity x 100 We can talk all day about how good or insignificant the dossier is but it won't pass. We would however win in court. Well, maybe not in a Scottish court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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