Robmc1 4,741 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Hadron Collider said: So you have no real questions over this inquiry? There are far more questions in relation to that enquiry than answers given... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, esquire8 said: Refuse any and all support to clubs who vote against this obvious need for an independent investigation. No away tickets, nothing. That would be coersion and bullying. Exactly what we're accusing the SPFL of and would be thrown straight back in our face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroonBear 695 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: Anyone reading that 19 page document can't possibly suggest all is above board and deny the need for an independent investigation - unless they've still got their Rangers hating hats on. Were the investigation to take place then that's where I'd expect to see the hard hitting stuff. Presumably Doncaster and his band of fenian appeasers do too, hence why all and sundry have been having a pop at us for bringing it to the fore. Of course, I fully expect us to have to draft another document detailing the underhand tactics they'll be using to steer the general meeting too The 19 pages show EXACTLY what should have been looked at in the Deloitte investigation. Failure after failure actually proves that ND is not fit for the job and should be removed, just as in any other conpany. I said it many pages back, an investigation needs to look at the procedures and processes of the SPFL and the SPFL MUST have a valid audit trail backing up all decisions they have made. The ONLY way to answer any of the points raised is through an external investigation. This is exactly why the SPFL are down playing this dossier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 15,965 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, SkylineBlue said: Never seen someone try to use the word "smidge" in an authoritative manner before. I know used it this morning in work n thought I can use that somewhere else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 15,965 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, coopsleftboot said: That would be coersion and bullying. Exactly what we're accusing the SPFL of and would be thrown straight back in our face. We could take the tickets, not sell them and return them, no bullying at all,the voice of the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,804 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, bluenoz said: This in its simplicity x 100 We can talk all day about how good or insignificant the dossier is but it won't pass. We would however win in court. Well, maybe not in a Scottish court. Alex Salmond anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 41,914 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: That would be coersion and bullying. Exactly what we're accusing the SPFL of and would be thrown straight back in our face. If this gets voted down it no longer matters. Burn all the bridges. Cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said: Possibly. But the counter question would be why didn’t we just go straight to court and avoid all this nonsense There are avenues for this sort of thing isn't there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,840 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wafflesniffer said: Indeed. Who gave him the authority to negotiate the redistribution of money and to arrange friendlies? Even if the money was only redistributed having landed in United and Raith's pockets, how do they square that in their accounts and with their fans? I'd be astonished if clubs (even scum like United) would put themselves in that position with word from the SPFL directly or indirectly. That said, nothing should surprise anymore really! All questions needed answered in a full enquiry without actually using the words this dossier is basically saying that the game is corrupt and a few individuals are doing what they like to get what they want ,that just can’t go on if this was happening down the local bowling club questions would be asked What makes these cunts think it’s ok and they should get away with it a nice wee cosy taig infested clique is what is running out game and not by the book Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS4_wul 4,095 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, MorelosRangers said: There's no way we will get the number of clubs required to vote. Court is our only option. Absolutely no chance of it whatsoever mate. That has always been the case from the outset regardless of what our dossier says, too many Rangers hating cunts in this country. We are following protocol, taking it step by step. This is going to take time but hopefully we eventually expose all the rancid, corrupt fuckwits "running" our game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, dummiesoot said: We could take the tickets, not sell them and return them, no bullying at all,the voice of the fans. Yes, that would be the only way. The club could not be seen to be promoting this. Of course if the fans decide to do that then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,804 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, magic8ball said: All questions needed answered in a full enquiry without actually using the words this dossier is basically saying that the game is corrupt and a few individuals are doing what they like to get what they want ,that just can’t go on if this was happening down the local bowling club questions would be asked What makes these cunts think it’s ok and they should get away with it a nice wee cosy taig infested clique is what is running out game and not by the book If this was happening in the bowling club then members would be leaving for other clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,439 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: People may be disappointed but Rangers as a member club are fully justified in highlighting maladministration to the other members. To simply accept what was and is going on would have been totally remiss of our board. The problem with the SPFL is that 42 clubs are involved and it seems clear that a significant number of their chairmen and chief executives are morally bankrupt and or gutless. Hopefully there may be a route for legal action for which we do not require the backing of the other clubs. Exactly. 21 minutes ago, Lets go 55 said: Letter sent to UEFA 6 days before the vote,Lies. Lap dogs McArthur,Mulraney, threatening other clubs. Cant finish the league but will make sure the Scottish Cup is completed no matter when , how can you complete a cup when the teams left will have different players. Oh forgot, because the scum are still involved. All the points raised by Rangers are valid but will probably be kicked into touch . Take the cunts to court. Folk are saying there was nothing new, but that Uefa letter was surely something new. If we had released this document just after the vote change then perhaps more people would be positive about it. The media narrative is it had to be ‘explosive’. Even people on here are buying that line. There is a clear justification for an external investigation but it looks like the other clubs hate us more than they care about an open and honest Scottish game. It is also pretty clear why the SPFL took the actions they did. We can’t say that out loud though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton2008 646 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: So you have no real questions over this inquiry? Loads. Most of them answer themselves but. Without even getting into the relationship between Delloite staff, a certain club and the spfl is ask: Why would an independent be carried out without terms, backing and limitations agreed by the clubs Why Deloitte and the cost The timing? But they answer themselves and prove it to be a sham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,253 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: Flicking through the pish being posted by so called journos online and not one of them are looking into the questions we’re asking, their simply brushing it off as “no evidence”. The usual suspects will be looking for the smoking gun in words of no more than two syllables. Anything that requires actual reading or analysis will be left to people with more than one brain cell, unlikely to be found in the scottish media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,242 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, MorelosRangers said: There's no way we will get the number of clubs required to vote. Court is our only option. It's an absolute gimme we won't get the numbers. I think the club are just exhausting all options via the SPFL protocol. Before going to court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Malkster said: If this was happening in the bowling club then members would be leaving for other clubs If it was happening at the bowling clubs I've been a member of it would have been "haw you, wee word outside pal." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,011 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman10 148 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said: Surely that must be a generic us thread. No way could they have amassed that many pages 😂 Was gonna say maybe as they are all off work on furlough but ye know....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 12,683 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, bornabear said: I may be a mongo, I love titles. I must be a Mongo as well mate .... because I like titties too ..... two. ....... OH! ..... you meant Titles ...... Mongo definitely a pair .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: Yes, that would be the only way. The club could not be seen to be promoting this. Of course if the fans decide to do that then Just like 2012, clubs hid behind their fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,291 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 So Doncaster and maxwell told uefa on April the 4th that the vast majority of clubs wanted the season ended immediately, this before any vote or resolution by both spfl and sfa, April the fkn 4th, this alone should be enough to convince any club that an ind enq is justified, if they have done this without any correspondence from all clubs then what else have they done? For me the only way forward is to go legal, far to many appeasers to get anywhere near the 75% required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: It's an absolute gimme we won't get the numbers. I think the club are just exhausting all options via the SPFL protocol. Before going to court. CAS more likely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,011 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 41,914 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Yeah I think the number code at the start of the document name gives away which clubs are leaking. The ones on twitter have 2 other number combinations at the start of it. Meaning at least 3 clubs have leaked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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