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1 hour ago, esquire8 said:

There will be no evidence until the independent investigation or the courts. We ain't showing a thing at the EGM.

Sorry mate,anger gets the better of me some times ,

What i really meant serious questions asked ,at the end of the day the only big questions were I our dossier ,been a bit of evidence today with ICT statement 

the sheer arrogance of these SPFL board members really fucks me off ,hopefully these times are coming close to an end though 

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1 hour ago, Darth Bear said:

I've had enough beer to take on any five cunts.

Currently working on making it ten.

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Just be careful mate ...... this guy might be amongst them ..... and there is no telling the damage he might do to your cuticles when buffing your nails.

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1 minute ago, bornabear said:

What a load of pish,

" Dundee refuse to be drawn ................"

The writer then goes on to tell most of ICT statement of today, but there's nothing quoted from Dundee.

Par for the course on Scottish journalism.

Refuse to be drawn, because they and someone at the SPFL would be incriminated.

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3 minutes ago, pcbear said:

One reason why every rock needs looked under.

They also managed to get another space on the board for a league 1 club to be represented. Just happened to be that league 1 club representative is very much a Lawwell follower.

Never wondered why Montrose are even on the board considering there is only meant to be 1 representative member for both League 1 and 2? 🤷‍♂️ 

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6 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

Sorry mate,anger gets the better of me some times ,

What i really meant serious questions asked ,at the end of the day the only big questions were I our dossier ,been a bit of evidence today with ICT statement 

the sheer arrogance of these SPFL board members really fucks me off ,hopefully these times are coming close to an end though 

All good lad 👍 it's really pissing me off too.

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18 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Mal is Mal Brannigan. The now ex-chief exec of Dundee Utd. We don't think he threatened him.

Yes left them just a couple of hours after the spfl meeting.  Probably bumped.  Be interesting to know why.  

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34 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

The Courier

 by Marc Deanie

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Dundee refuse to be drawn into war of words with Inverness Caley Thistle as Championship rivals take aim at Dark Blues chief John Nelms

Dundee are refusing to be drawn into a war of words with Inverness Caley Thistle after their Championship rivals took aim at Dark Blues managing director John Nelms. Caley today issued a 2000-word statement attacking the SPFL’s handling of the coronavirus shutdown, calling it “a disingenuous, incompetent shambles”. They also contradicted a claim by league chief Neil Doncaster that no club had made allegations of bullying over the key vote which saw the three divisions below the Premiership curtailed.

Just days after Rangers devoted two sections of their long-awaited dossier to the Dark Blues’ controversial vote U-turn, chief executive Scot Gardiner and chairman Ross Morrison put last month’s events back under the microscope. The Ibrox side hope to persuade clubs to instigate an independent investigation into the ballot at Tuesday’s general meeting. Declaring their support for Gers’ proposal, Gardiner and Morrison said: “We believe that serious questions remain over the actions of the MD of one club during the now infamous vote on April 10 and what happened between the submission of their legally binding ‘No’ vote before the fake 5pm deadline.

“And five days later when they became the only club out of 42 to have ‘negotiations’ with the CEO and chairman of the SPFL and with ‘big hitters’ or persons unknown, before being allowed to vote for a second time. “This time to carry the SPFL Board’s resolution with a Yes vote. A genuinely independent investigation is the only possible route to try and uncover what happened and it may or may not reveal the reasoning behind their apparently contradictory statements since then.” Caley’s dig at Nelms comes a month after Gardiner – a former Dundee chief executive and Rangers commercial sales manager – read out private WhatsApp messages involving the Dens Park club on live radio.

The Dark Blues managing director was angry they had entered the public domain. Last week the leaked exchanges involving several Championship clubs formed part of Rangers’ dossier. Speaking on April 30, Nelms said: “It’s unbelievable. The way that was handled was not business-like and was very poor. “It has caused a lot of bad blood throughout the league, the way that was done, taking private messages and putting them out there. “Of course, they have been taken out of context at some levels because you don’t know exactly what was going on and what the conversations were. “There were a lot of conversations going on at that time, loads of them, so you don’t get the full context of it but you do get one view and that’s what they wanted.”

Meanwhile, Inverness say they were willing to testify to an allegation of bullying which they insist was reported on the day it occurred. The statement said: “Without going into the specifics at this time, please know that we will testify to the bullying and threats made against our club on Friday 10th (of April) by an SPFL board member and the threats against others by the same SPFL board member. “These threats were ‘reported back to the centre’ and to the SPFL CEO directly on the day with evidence at any genuine independent investigation with the proper and appropriate scope, should there be one, or at any further subsequent action thereafter.  “These were threats and not robust conversations.”

Inverness, who finished runners-up in the Championship but will be denied promotion, issued the statement shortly after Doncaster told BBC Radio Scotland that discussions around the vote were “robust” but not out of the ordinary. The SPFL chief said: “No club has reported bullying to me and as far as I’m aware to (chairman) Murdoch MacLennan either. “Clearly there are robust exchanges between clubs. We were aware particularly in the Championship that these robust conversations were ongoing but nobody reported any bullying to me. 

“A number of people expressed concerns about language that was used. There were suggestions, I believe, that if the resolution didn’t pass then there might be an attempt to change the distribution mechanism in the Championship and perhaps make it more equal. That is the sort of discussion you would expect to go on. “That’s what happens when you have got these rough, tough business people in the game. There are no shrinking violets. “We expect there to be robust conversations. That’s wholly different from someone making a formal complaint of coercion or bullying, and that hasn’t happened. “If any club has evidence of bullying and wishes to make a formal complaint then they should do so and it will be dealt with in a formal way.” https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/dundee-fc/1316744/dundee-fc-inverness-john-nelms/

Dundee have a lot to answer for ,but they could redeem themselves by coming out and tell us now what and who were involved in the process that got them to change their vote 

Someway down the line it will come out ,if it’s in a court room the guilty parties will then face the music ,but Dundee will be left without a friend anywhere ,If they spill the beans now then we can all move on quicker an they can maybe save a little bit of reputation 

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2 hours ago, bluenoz said:

Any proxy votes yet?

This worries me a wee bit. I don’t expect to get the full 75% backing but would hope we get up towards 50% or more. If they get enough proxies tomorrow, does the full vote still happen? 

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3 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

Dundee have a lot to answer for ,but they could redeem themselves by coming out and tell us now what and who were involved in the process that got them to change their vote 

Someway down the line it will come out ,if it’s in a court room the guilty parties will then face the music ,but Dundee will be left without a friend anywhere ,If they spill the beans now then we can all move on quicker an they can maybe save a little bit of reputation 

They won't because it will come out they sought out Lawwell, McKenzie and Mulraney to thrash out a sweetener to change their vote, therefor making them just as complicit in the whole thing. Dundee board will never be trusted again.

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4 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

STILL our fault according to the eyelashes, haircut and failed player/politician! Haha!

Beelin'!

 

That ginger prick needs muzzled, the club has to start going after these hacks for defamation, the treatment of Morelos from the media was unforgivable that shouldn’t be forgotten. 

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2 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

They won't because it will come out they sought out Lawwell, McKenzie and Mulraney to thrash out a sweetener to change their vote, therefor making them just as complicit in the whole thing. Dundee board will never be trusted again.

Wouldn't that depend on who contacted who?

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He's a fucking numpty, but thats not new.

5. Let’s not forget the clubs who have been relegated by email rather than on the park, those clubs should’ve been front and centre of the thoughts of the SPFL board when they drafted their resolution and they weren’t, therein lies the problem which has ignited all this.

 

Thought the only reason for all this (and poverty, homlessness, aids, all the other world problems) was soely down to us not wanting to gift them the title??? 

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4 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

STILL our fault according to the eyelashes, haircut and failed player/politician! Haha!

Beelin'!

 

I know I’m biased but I genuinely don’t see what we’ve done that’s so wrong!

We aren’t happy and raised our concerns through the proper channels. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

STILL our fault according to the eyelashes, haircut and failed player/politician! Haha!

Beelin'!

 

I'd love to know specifically what he thinks we've done wrong. We've highlighted issues properly, with legal advice, many of which are now being backed up by other clubs and most of which journalists are now recognising as things that need looking into.

I don't know if he's saying we should have done it in house? But if we'd done it behind closed doors, there's every chance it'd have been buried. We're learning how the SPFL do things behind closed doors. It's kinda the point.

And also, folk wouldn't have been given the opportunity to see how inept their 300k chief is under pressure. 

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1 minute ago, 6superbarry6 said:

That ginger prick needs muzzled, the club has to start going after these hacks for defamation, the treatment of Morelos from the media was unforgivable that shouldn’t be forgotten. 

Aye don’t think you would stop once you started punching him tbh! Similar to Sutton, Spence, Speirs and Leckie. 

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6 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

STILL our fault according to the eyelashes, haircut and failed player/politician! Haha!

Beelin'!

 

Another one that has no answers to the allegations levelled against the spfl , other than ' naw they didnae ' 

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8 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

STILL our fault according to the eyelashes, haircut and failed player/politician! Haha!

Beelin'!

 

Guy is a bellend.  We have followed the stipulated protocol, nothing more, nothing less.

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25 minutes ago, Bobby Hume said:

 

:lol::lol::lol:

Just be careful mate ...... this guy might be amongst them ..... and there is no telling the damage he might do to your cuticles when buffing your nails.

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Just raised the number to 25 😂

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