STEPPS BOY 73,799 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Reconstruction that lasts 5 years now suddenly on the 4.95 million pound table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,357 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Sky have limited each club to only stream games to the same amount that bought season tickets the previous season. Which means everyone having piss ups at a season ticket holders house. Farcical to enforce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,149 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, esquire8 said: Sky have limited each club to only stream games to the same amount that bought season tickets the previous season. Which means everyone having piss ups at a season ticket holders house. Farcical to enforce. Madness, and costing clubs much needed revenue at this time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,357 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, 6superbarry6 said: Madness, and costing clubs much needed revenue at this time Sky wouldn't want all games going on IPTV. Even if a club got double the season ticket holders than last season they won't all get the home games. Good to see Rangers board not charging extra for this. I expect this generosity won't be spreading very far in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,650 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Reconstruction that lasts 5 years now suddenly on the 4.95 million pound table. In the final phase of specky and the Jap's plan now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,149 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, esquire8 said: Sky wouldn't want all games going on IPTV. Even if a club got double the season ticket holders than last season they won't all get the home games. Good to see Rangers board not charging extra for this. I expect this generosity won't be spreading very far in the league. Good to see the club not charging season ticket holders, but could’ve been a decent revenue stream for the club selling this to non season ticket holders, a shame that some fans who sometimes attend games but for whatever reason don’t have a season ticket can’t watch us now, shouldn’t really be any skin off sky’s nose as these games wouldn’t have been televised anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEarle 9,727 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 From the BBC just now. Smacks of desperation from Doncaster possibly to avoid Hearts taking legal action? Talk about painting yourself into a corner.... Pathetic!! The SPFL has asked clubs if they would back a 14-team Scottish Premiership for next season and, if not, how might their objections be overcome. In a letter to clubs in the top two tiers, chief executive Neil Doncaster queried if enlarging the Premiership for five years would be more palatable. He also asked clubs what other factors should be taken into account around league reconstruction. Responses have been requested by 17:00 BST on Friday. Doncaster is also expected to ask similar questions of clubs in Leagues One and Two following their divisional meetings on Wednesday. The letter comes after talks early this week over Hearts owner Ann Budge's reconstruction proposal. Budge had suggested a change for two seasons to replace the current 12-10-10-10 configuration - one which would mean Hearts would avoid relegation. It would also lead to Championship runners-up Inverness Caledonian Thistle being promoted. It has since been clarified that Budge's focus is on a 14-team top tier, with the lower league clubs agreeing on whatever configuration suits them. Hearts were condemned to the Scottish Championship in May after the top flight was curtailed. Before that was confirmed, Budge co-chaired a reconstruction task force which was abandoned when several Premiership clubs intimated that they would not support a 14-team top flight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,650 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, SteveEarle said: From the BBC just now. Smacks of desperation from Doncaster possibly to avoid Hearts taking legal action? Pathetic!! The SPFL has asked clubs if they would back a 14-team Scottish Premiership for next season and, if not, how might their objections be overcome. In a letter to clubs in the top two tiers, chief executive Neil Doncaster queried if enlarging the Premiership for five years would be more palatable. He also asked clubs what other factors should be taken into account around league reconstruction. Responses have been requested by 17:00 BST on Friday. Doncaster is also expected to ask similar questions of clubs in Leagues One and Two following their divisional meetings on Wednesday. The letter comes after talks early this week over Hearts owner Ann Budge's reconstruction proposal. Budge had suggested a change for two seasons to replace the current 12-10-10-10 configuration - one which would mean Hearts would avoid relegation. It would also lead to Championship runners-up Inverness Caledonian Thistle being promoted. It has since been clarified that Budge's focus is on a 14-team top tier, with the lower league clubs agreeing on whatever configuration suits them. Hearts were condemned to the Scottish Championship in May after the top flight was curtailed. Before that was confirmed, Budge co-chaired a reconstruction task force which was abandoned when several Premiership clubs intimated that they would not support a 14-team top flight. Hearts will stay up - nothing surer mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,357 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, B1872 said: Hearts will stay up - nothing surer mate! Wouldn't be too sure. 2 years, 5 years, 10 years. It doesn't matter, premiership clubs aren't all going to agree to a much lesser slice of an already draining money pot for any seasons and championship clubs aren't going to want to be in a huge relegation battle when the time comes to switch back. Temporary, permanent, it doesn't matter. Reconstruction will not happen. Hearts will go down with a compensation payment, this is just Doncaster trying to escape paying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,617 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, SteveEarle said: From the BBC just now. Smacks of desperation from Doncaster possibly to avoid Hearts taking legal action? Talk about painting yourself into a corner.... Pathetic!! The SPFL has asked clubs if they would back a 14-team Scottish Premiership for next season and, if not, how might their objections be overcome. In a letter to clubs in the top two tiers, chief executive Neil Doncaster queried if enlarging the Premiership for five years would be more palatable. He also asked clubs what other factors should be taken into account around league reconstruction. Responses have been requested by 17:00 BST on Friday. Doncaster is also expected to ask similar questions of clubs in Leagues One and Two following their divisional meetings on Wednesday. The letter comes after talks early this week over Hearts owner Ann Budge's reconstruction proposal. Budge had suggested a change for two seasons to replace the current 12-10-10-10 configuration - one which would mean Hearts would avoid relegation. It would also lead to Championship runners-up Inverness Caledonian Thistle being promoted. It has since been clarified that Budge's focus is on a 14-team top tier, with the lower league clubs agreeing on whatever configuration suits them. Hearts were condemned to the Scottish Championship in May after the top flight was curtailed. Before that was confirmed, Budge co-chaired a reconstruction task force which was abandoned when several Premiership clubs intimated that they would not support a 14-team top flight. Tell us what we need to do to make it happen amd save our arses please clubs. Some difference from them dictating which proposals were to be voted on and which weren't, and how these were to be linked to payouts and reconstruction. Dont remember clubs being negotiated with to see what worked then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,357 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Good to see the club not charging season ticket holders, but could’ve been a decent revenue stream for the club selling this to non season ticket holders, a shame that some fans who sometimes attend games but for whatever reason don’t have a season ticket can’t watch us now, shouldn’t really be any skin off sky’s nose as these games wouldn’t have been televised anyway. It's the whole IPTV and streaming that's the issue with Sky. Always has been. Limiting season ticket streams will eliminate this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,617 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Wouldn't be too sure. 2 years, 5 years, 10 years. It doesn't matter, premiership clubs aren't all going to agree to a much lesser slice of an already draining money pot for any seasons and championship clubs aren't going to want to be in a huge relegation battle when the time comes to switch back. Temporary, permanent, it doesn't matter. Reconstruction will not happen. Hearts will go down with a compensation payment, this is just Doncaster trying to escape paying it. More teams into a reduced prize pot due to their reimbursements to Sky and BT wont suit many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,315 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, The Dude said: Or...pay Rangers. Did you read the word donation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Sky have limited each club to only stream games to the same amount that bought season tickets the previous season. Which means everyone having piss ups at a season ticket holders house. Farcical to enforce. Clubs giving it away to season ticket holders (rightly) means there's no additional revenue generated. Farcical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,357 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: More teams into a reduced prize pot due to their reimbursements to Sky and BT wont suit many. Won't suit 11 out of the 12 they need. The reimbursements and no sponsor money means the pot is actually less than previous seasons. Add that to clubs having less season tickets, less single game tickets and no match day revenue then you've got a major income problem. You think they want to add to that problem by getting much less of the pot just to save Budge and Hearts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS said: Did you read the word donation? I did. Would you suggest folk buy fake Rangers kits and just make a donation instead too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,149 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, esquire8 said: It's the whole IPTV and streaming that's the issue with Sky. Always has been. Limiting season ticket streams will eliminate this issue. Sky are cunts, wish they’d go bust tbh, they pay us absolute pittance then have the brasss neck to still try call the shots, if only we had people with a set of balls running out game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,357 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Clubs giving it away to season ticket holders (rightly) means there's no additional revenue generated. Farcical. The man in charge of the leagues is now Sky's bitch along with being Lawwells rent boy. Hope all other 40 member clubs are proud of themselves.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,280 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Wouldn't be too sure. 2 years, 5 years, 10 years. It doesn't matter, premiership clubs aren't all going to agree to a much lesser slice of an already draining money pot for any seasons and championship clubs aren't going to want to be in a huge relegation battle when the time comes to switch back. Temporary, permanent, it doesn't matter. Reconstruction will not happen. Hearts will go down with a compensation payment, this is just Doncaster trying to escape paying it. At this point mate I wouldn't put anything past clubs in Scotland. The same premiership clubs were quite happy to vote through the last set of proposals that left us with a reduced pot. I honestly wouldn't put past them voting this through as well. Doncaster will throw some other scraps their way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,315 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, The Dude said: I did. Would you suggest folk buy fake Rangers kits and just make a donation instead too? Stop trying to be controversial just for the sake of it 'fake Rangers kits' have nothing to do with the argument of not giving Sky any money. My point was succinct - get IPTV and make a donation to Rangers for what you would have paid to Sky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, esquire8 said: The man in charge of the leagues is now Sky's bitch along with being Lawwells rent boy. Hope all other 40 member clubs are proud of themselves.... Cant wait for Robertson to piss on us from on high while telling us its raining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,357 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, 6superbarry6 said: Sky are cunts, wish they’d go bust tbh, they pay us absolute pittance then have the brasss neck to still try call the shots, if only we had people with a set of balls running out game. Sky ain't the issue, its Doncaster and Lawwell. Sky aren't "trying" to call the shots, they technically are now. Doncaster and Lawwell have given the entire game to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS said: Stop trying to be controversial just for the sake of it 'fake Rangers kits' have nothing to do with the argument of not giving Sky any money. My point was succinct - get IPTV and make a donation to Rangers for what you would have paid to Sky. Or again, just pay Rangers directly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robmc1 4,741 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Sky are cunts, wish they’d go bust tbh, they pay us absolute pittance then have the brasss neck to still try call the shots, if only we had people with a set of balls running out game. I don’t blame sky, they are a business who’s job is to maximise profit, highlighted above is the problem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,315 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, The Dude said: Or again, just pay Rangers directly. At what point don't you grasp the fact that 'making a donation to Rangers for the amount you would have given Sky' is in fact 'giving money to Rangers' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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