ZZed 4,510 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 9 hours ago, B1872 said: Only good thing about this whole thing is Hearts dying. At least they’ll have they 1000s of pages worth of Sevco posts to read through on their forum to pass the time at the weekend. 👍🏻 Harsh but fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,530 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 As soon as it’s confirmed there will be a virtue signalling, sanctimonious statement released I’ll bet. I’ll put money on fake humble gratitude acknowledging the poor souls who are sick /dead how they truly didn’t want the title to have to be ‘won’ in these terrible circumstances hope for a brighter future all pulling together and of course ‘the greatest fans in the world’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,380 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sparkle said: As soon as it’s confirmed there will be a virtue signalling, sanctimonious statement released I’ll bet. I’ll put money on fake humble gratitude acknowledging the poor souls who are sick /dead how they truly didn’t want the title to have to be ‘won’ in these terrible circumstances hope for a brighter future all pulling together and of course ‘the greatest fans in the world’ Whatever it is I'll be ignoring it and giving zero fucks. Nothing would please them more than us raging about it, probably more than getting handed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,622 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: The only implications are in contractual terms or in European qualification. The broadcasters have paid for more games than they’ve actually had so far so, technically, we owe them a rebate. Given the reason is a worldwide pandemic killing hundreds of thousands, it would not be good PR to sue the SPFL even if legally entitled. However, the key point is that we have not delivered our full number of games for them to broadcast. The reason is immaterial, despite what Doncaster and Liewell would have you believe. European qualification is a mess. UEFA have sent out so many mixed messages that it’s hard to keep up. As it stands, an incomplete season (like the Dutch have done) is no impediment to qualification so we could easily follow suit. Had Rangers been top, we all know that’s what would have happened. The lie that “Incomplete” (or the dreaded “Null And Void”) was a complete disaster and the nightmare scenario was put out early by both men, it was unchallenged and it has now become accepted as fact, even though there is no truth in it at all. Once again, the lack of integrity in our press and media has failed us. I'd agree. And yet no one, not even ex Rangers players, bloggers, folk close to the club, even the club itself as far as we can tell are exploring or challenging it. It's always the generalisation about how damaging it is but never the detail of why ( particularly compared to PPG). No one for or against us speaks about it, n&v is like a dirty secret. Its bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,380 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I'd agree. And yet no one, not even ex Rangers players, bloggers, folk close to the club, even the club itself as far as we can tell are exploring or challenging it. It's always the generalisation about how damaging it is but never the detail of why ( particularly compared to PPG). No one for or against us speaks about it, n&v is like a dirty secret. Its bizarre. The leagues have been decided on by the majority. Null n void is gone. But I found an article about it, seems that the league would have to hand back alot more money than a ppg finish and the tarriers keep their chance of getting into the champions league next season, that's it.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, Dickie said: Spfl talking about using 1 ground per area(ie west of Scotland) to host all games. So in spfl speak that means the paedodome. Hampden Murrayfield Pittodrie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, Dickie said: Spfl talking about using 1 ground per area(ie west of Scotland) to host all games. So in spfl speak that means the paedodome. Nah they wouldnt use that if it is behind closed doors. It is too big so would cost too much when there are no fans. The spfl will no doubt opt for Hamilton and have the entire season played on that utter joke of a plastic pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,875 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Tiger Shaw said: Sickening but expected What’s sickening is our own embarrassing results that people are conveniently ignoring now We took a combined total of ONE point against St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Hearts and Hamilton in the space of a few weeks which is ultimately our downfall. Even 8/9 points out of those easy games and the SPFL wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on giving them the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,380 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Parlaneloyal said: Hampden Murrayfield Pittodrie Would be McDiarmid instead of Pittodrie and Easter/Tynecastle instead of Murrayfield. Your right about Hampdump though. Still think that'll be a no go. Too many teams using the same facilities all the time is a guaranteed infection disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,722 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I'd agree. And yet no one, not even ex Rangers players, bloggers, folk close to the club, even the club itself as far as we can tell are exploring or challenging it. It's always the generalisation about how damaging it is but never the detail of why ( particularly compared to PPG). No one for or against us speaks about it, n&v is like a dirty secret. Its bizarre. To be fair, as a club, we’re better avoiding it. If we bring it up, then we’ll be swamped with “see, ah telt ye it wiz aw aboot sellick”. The major failing is in our media where not one journalist has challenged the lie spun by Doncaster and Liewell. Although, to a certain extent, I can see why they would be reluctant as that would be seen as outing themselves as Sevco supporters. In fact, if you actually think about it, they’ve played the same game they did over child abuse. They have seized the initiative, led the narrative from day one to the point where anyone challenging them is isolated and identified as point-scoring over children suffering (in the case of child abuse) or is only interested in stopping NIAR (null and void). It is a tried and tested formula and, with a compliant SPFL board, they’ve deployed exactly the same, successful tactic again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,722 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, esquire8 said: The leagues have been decided on by the majority. Null n void is gone. But I found an article about it, seems that the league would have to hand back alot more money than a ppg finish and the tarriers keep their chance of getting into the champions league next season, that's it.... Don’t know where that’s from but the second CONS paragraph sounds like Doncaster or Liewell wrote it. Paid out to who? Who is going to sue because games can’t be played due to hundreds of thousands of deaths? And they’ll only sue if NullAndVoid but they won’t sue if the season is called early? And the payments are based on league placing so that matches played HAVE counted for something. Scum supporter wrote that piece, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sparkle said: As soon as it’s confirmed there will be a virtue signalling, sanctimonious statement released I’ll bet. I’ll put money on fake humble gratitude acknowledging the poor souls who are sick /dead how they truly didn’t want the title to have to be ‘won’ in these terrible circumstances hope for a brighter future all pulling together and of course ‘the greatest fans in the world’ Email will already be typed up as draft and ready to send. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,279 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sparkle said: As soon as it’s confirmed there will be a virtue signalling, sanctimonious statement released I’ll bet. I’ll put money on fake humble gratitude acknowledging the poor souls who are sick /dead how they truly didn’t want the title to have to be ‘won’ in these terrible circumstances hope for a brighter future all pulling together and of course ‘the greatest fans in the world’ Don't 😔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 The best precedent was surely the Scottish Rugby Association's . Traditionally an association where sporting integrity and openness is paramount, they quickly concluded that from the 5 options possible, only 2 were viable. Around 1/2 the clubs chose null and "void" whilst around 1/4 chose the positions at the time option. It is also believed that there were no bullying tactics, impassioned speeches, or mysterious votes which were cast, got lost, then arrived late and had been changed. Respect to the Scottish Rugby Authorities for realising the importance of making a quick decision and then completing it in a fair and prompt fashion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jb85 1,783 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Don’t know where that’s from but the second CONS paragraph sounds like Doncaster or Liewell wrote it. Paid out to who? Who is going to sue because games can’t be played due to hundreds of thousands of deaths? And they’ll only sue if NullAndVoid but they won’t sue if the season is called early? And the payments are based on league placing so that matches played HAVE counted for something. Scum supporter wrote that piece, mate. Exactly. What commercial agreements would be breached? The whole world is on lock down practically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,622 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, esquire8 said: The leagues have been decided on by the majority. Null n void is gone. But I found an article about it, seems that the league would have to hand back alot more money than a ppg finish and the tarriers keep their chance of getting into the champions league next season, that's it.... It may well be gone but it's never been explained why never an option. It's always woolly, generalised answers. Even from the above angry folk and apparent meaningless games mean more than wrongfully relegating teams in an incomplete season? League handouts couldnt have a new rule applied to cover this the same way PPG new rule was applied? European competition entrants, really? None of these are insurmoubtable with just a little effort. It's a non starter as it's never been allowed to start. There still no detail as to why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, esquire8 said: The leagues have been decided on by the majority. Null n void is gone. But I found an article about it, seems that the league would have to hand back alot more money than a ppg finish and the tarriers keep their chance of getting into the champions league next season, that's it.... The bit where they considered ending the season with the current standings, paying out against the current positions and ending the season without champion awards or relegations, and using the current positions to decide european places seems to be missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,654 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: As soon as it’s confirmed there will be a virtue signalling, sanctimonious statement released I’ll bet. I’ll put money on fake humble gratitude acknowledging the poor souls who are sick /dead how they truly didn’t want the title to have to be ‘won’ in these terrible circumstances hope for a brighter future all pulling together and of course ‘the greatest fans in the world’ These cunts will be celebrating it like they’ve won the champion league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,358 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, ElBufalo20 said: What’s sickening is our own embarrassing results that people are conveniently ignoring now We took a combined total of ONE point against St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Hearts and Hamilton in the space of a few weeks which is ultimately our downfall. Even 8/9 points out of those easy games and the SPFL wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on giving them the title. I’m not ignoring that mate I’ve said as much in other posts that after the winter break we were a shambles, doesn’t make the spfl handing their favourite team a title for an incomplete season any less sickening. Them winning or being handed a title under any circumstances is sickening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robmc1 4,741 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, B1872 said: These cunts will be celebrating it like they’ve won the champion league. They will mate, thing is as much as they go on about 9 iar, put any spin on it they like but they only won 8iar (4 with no opposition) and were awarded the 9th. Regardless of them, press or pundits ignoring this fact, it is a fact that I personally will never get tired of reminding people about... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,530 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, B1872 said: These cunts will be celebrating it like they’ve won the champion league. Aye the classless fans will no doubt. The rancid club will have their corporate face on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFamousPigeon 9,352 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, Sparkle said: Aye the classless fans will no doubt. The rancid club will have their corporate face on True winners and athletes wouldn't want something handed to them. But that's not who we're talking about so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,194 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, B1872 said: These cunts will be celebrating it like they’ve won the champion league. And the lockdown restrictions that will inevitably be broken in doing so will be completely ignored by the entire country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Robmc1 said: They will mate, thing is as much as they go on about 9 iar, put any spin on it they like but they only won 8iar (4 with no opposition) and were awarded the 9th. Regardless of them, press or pundits ignoring this fact, it is a fact that I personally will never get tired of reminding people about... Ditto. I'll care not a jot when the ayebuttery and EBTsssss shit starts flying. Fact will always be there, 4 with no opposition and 1 they never won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,281 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheFamousPigeon said: True winners and athletes wouldn't want something handed to them. But that's not who we're talking about so... Exactly I'm expecting their classless manager and captain to be front and centre celebrating once it's confirmed. It's all they have cared about since lockdown went into effect. It's still sickens me that Lennon press conference and the no one is taking this from us line 🤢 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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