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The SPFL are one of the most shambolic institutions I have ever seen. 
During a court proceeding which was referred to the governing football body they broke company law by asking some members to go against other members, which is illegal, because they are duty bound to act in the best interests of all members. 
It defies belief and I just can’t see how Scottish football recovers from this. The only way for me is a disbandment of the SPFL and a new league body formed. 
The trust has completely gone. 

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1 hour ago, magic8ball said:

Each home game for Peado Fc will be at least 1m at the gate ,they are desperate to try and get as many in as soon as possible ,

Luckily our fans have backed the club knowing they won’t be seeing many games anytime soon 

Theres no way they make a million at the gate every home game, at 30 quid a ticket they'd need 30k tickets sold, their ST base leaves them with 15k max fan allowance if not less

They want the test and fans in for euro games, thats where they make their ticket money from

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5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Theres no way they make a million at the gate every home game, at 30 quid a ticket they'd need 30k tickets sold, their ST base leaves them with 15k max fan allowance if not less

They want the test and fans in for euro games, thats where they make their ticket money from

I’m including season tickets ,they ain’t shifting them like they need to ,the minute they can get folk in then they will get a boost in numbers ,

They will eventually get a decent number of season tickets sold but the longer without fans the price of that ticket goes down 

Each home game without fans will be at least 1/2M less in the biscuit tin 

 

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Don’t know if it’s been picked up and mentioned somewhere else ,This “random” fixture list has given us 2 away ties against the top 6 from last season. And the tarriers have 2 home ties against the bottom 6 ,

 

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7 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

Don’t know if it’s been picked up and mentioned somewhere else ,This “random” fixture list has given us 2 away ties against the top 6 from last season. And the tarriers have 2 home ties against the bottom 6 ,

 

This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides?

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1 minute ago, Creampuff said:

This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides?

The problem comes after the split where we could have 3 away games against E.G. Aberdeen, Hibs and Motherwell. 

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1 hour ago, Creampuff said:

This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides?

Its corrupt and as much of a fix as can be made pre season. Theres more about it in the fixtures 20/21 thread. 

The top 6 teams by points were the scum, us, motherwell, sheep, livi and hivs in the season just ended.

Simplifying it, we will play all of them twice away by the split, none of them home twice. The scum play none twice away, all of them home twice.

Post split the scum tie will obviously be at ibrox. But if those other teams make the top 6 as is likely then we will play 2 of them a 3rd time away from home, whilst the scum play 2 of them a 3rd time at home.

Its as rigged as it can be based on making one team play more away fixtures against the previous season's top teams whilst another plays them more at home. Based on last season's points finish, it literally is as rigged as it could possibly be as all 4 of the top 6 outside the OF are in the 'wrong' side of the draw for us.

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8 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Its corrupt and as much of a fix as can be made pre season. Theres more about it in the fixtures 20/21 thread. 

The top 6 teams by points were the scum, us, motherwell, sheep, livi and hivs in the season just ended.

Simplifying it, we will play all of them twice away by the split, none of them home twice. The scum play none twice away, all of them home twice.

The scum tie will obviously be at ibrox. But if those other teams make the top 6 as is likely then we will play 2 of them a 3rd time away from home, whilst the scum play 2 of them a 3rd time at home.

Its as rigged as it can be based on making one team play more away fixtures against the previous season's top teams whilst another plays them more at home. Based on last season's points finish, it literally is as rigged as it could possibly be as all 4 of the top 6 outside the OF are in the 'wrong' side of the draw for us.

Even simplified its complicated,maybe it is a coincidence this time don’t think they have the brains to work that out 

 

Starting to think the season end vote was cleverly thought out ,they knew a corrupt vote for bottom leagues would get challenged but having the premiership as a seperate “clean” vote weeks later would be unaffected by the corrupt vote if exposed 

Maybe I’m thinking to much but that’s modern Scotland ,corrupt in every instance 

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47 minutes ago, Creampuff said:

This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides?

Its actually quite unbelievable, the top 6 from last season we go to twice pre split, tarriers only go their once, 

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2 hours ago, magic8ball said:

Even simplified its complicated,maybe it is a coincidence this time don’t think they have the brains to work that out 

 

Starting to think the season end vote was cleverly thought out ,they knew a corrupt vote for bottom leagues would get challenged but having the premiership as a seperate “clean” vote weeks later would be unaffected by the corrupt vote if exposed 

Maybe I’m thinking to much but that’s modern Scotland ,corrupt in every instance 

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In a 44 game league in the last 1/4 of fixtures we would have home games versus the rest of last season's top 6*, away versus last season's bottom 6 (well, Hearts or Dundee Utd). The scum would be the exact opposite.

The split stops this from happening and makes us both play the new season's top 6 again. If its last season's top 6 then we are obliged to play several away again, whilst the scum play several at home again. Simples 😁

The practicality of us playing last seasons top 6 twice away compared to the scum playing twice at home is that our schedule is obviously harder. They never really have a difficult run that matches ours at the turn of the year, given they play harder teams at home and lesser teams away. But funnily enough even that wasn't a big enough guarantee, the spfl wanted it so that they themselves could decide on how the season was to be concluded in the event of a situation similar to this season.  Almost like a further safety blanket 

Theres literally nothing more within the rules they could do to benefit the fixture scheduling for the scum, and the exact opposite for us.

 

*based on points not PPG

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3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Its actually quite unbelievable, the top 6 from last season we go to twice pre split, tarriers only go their once, 

I think on the whole folk are pretty much unaware of this and the implications, loads seem to think the fixtures somehow even themselves out. Far from it.

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2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Its actually quite unbelievable, the top 6 from last season we go to twice pre split, tarriers only go their once, 

If I remember right last season post split they would of been giving a lot of home games due to having played the top 6 away twice already. Could it be something they agree on season to season with the random computer too off course. 

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8 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

If I remember right last season post split they would of been giving a lot of home games due to having played the top 6 away twice already. Could it be something they agree on season to season with the random computer too off course. 

Last season the scum didn't face playing each of the previous season's top 6 (excl themselves) away from home twice before the split in the way our fixture scheduling has guaranteed this season.

If the ones previously bottom 6 make it into the top 6 post split then the scum will possibly face them a 3rd time away from home. But thats a far different outcome than it being planned for us to face the previous season's top ranked teams away twice whereas the scum have the bottom ranked twice.  The corruption in the scheduling 👍

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1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Last season the scum didn't face playing each of the previous season's top 6 away from home twice before the split in the way our fixture scheduling has guaranteed this season.

“However, by that point celtic will have already played every single team in the current top six away from home twice.“

If we reached the split they could of been in a position where they had played all of the top 6 twice away. 

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SPFL fired Hearts and Partick Thistle warning as court overturns Belgian relegation decision

Waasland-Beveren were initially demoted but have won a landmark ruling.

The SPFL have been given a legal warning from Belgium, after Waasland-Beveren's relegation was overturned.

Hearts and Partick Thistle will go to SFA arbitration after the early end to the season saw them relegated with games still to play.

With the season due to start on August 1 it could throw the Premiership into crisis, with Dundee United on the other of the arbitration process after winning promotion.

And the SPFL now face a worrying precedent after the Belgian Court of Arbitration for Sport overturned the decision to relegate Waasland-Beveren.

On May 15 the season was declared over based on the table as it stood, with Club Brugge declared champions.

But Beveren challenged that and the CBAS has now quashed the decision.

In another worrying echo for Neil Doncaster and Co, the Belgian fixture list had already been published.

Club spokesman Martijn De Jonghe said: "We never lost hope

"We found it very odd that the fixtures were already released while legal proceedings were still under way.

"It's a small victory, even if we obviously don't know what's going to happen next."

While the Hearts and Thistle case will be arbitrated by the SFA, they do have the right to further appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne.

With relegation overturned in both France and Belgium, at least provisionally, CAS may use that precedent if called to make a ruling.

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11 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

If I remember right last season post split they would of been giving a lot of home games due to having played the top 6 away twice already. Could it be something they agree on season to season with the random computer too off course. 

Nah because if one team whos expected to make the top 6 fails to, then it fucks the whole planned fixtures

The only thing that makes me think we just got unlucky is that if they picked this and the top 6 stays the same as last season, then we'd have played more away games than home, so my guess is that the fixture computer was told that the top 6 is going to be a different 6 from last season, so we'd need to find two teams who we only play away once that could make top 6, 

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2 minutes ago, Canabear said:

SPFL fired Hearts and Partick Thistle warning as court overturns Belgian relegation decision

Waasland-Beveren were initially demoted but have won a landmark ruling.

The SPFL have been given a legal warning from Belgium, after Waasland-Beveren's relegation was overturned.

Hearts and Partick Thistle will go to SFA arbitration after the early end to the season saw them relegated with games still to play.

With the season due to start on August 1 it could throw the Premiership into crisis, with Dundee United on the other of the arbitration process after winning promotion.

And the SPFL now face a worrying precedent after the Belgian Court of Arbitration for Sport overturned the decision to relegate Waasland-Beveren.

On May 15 the season was declared over based on the table as it stood, with Club Brugge declared champions.

But Beveren challenged that and the CBAS has now quashed the decision.

In another worrying echo for Neil Doncaster and Co, the Belgian fixture list had already been published.

Club spokesman Martijn De Jonghe said: "We never lost hope

"We found it very odd that the fixtures were already released while legal proceedings were still under way.

"It's a small victory, even if we obviously don't know what's going to happen next."

While the Hearts and Thistle case will be arbitrated by the SFA, they do have the right to further appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne.

With relegation overturned in both France and Belgium, at least provisionally, CAS may use that precedent if called to make a ruling.

I think hearts and PT will get compo

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5 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

“However, by that point celtic will have already played every single team in the current top six away from home twice.“

If we reached the split they could of been in a position where they had played all of the top 6 twice away. 

Last season they could have been in the position of having played twice the teams who would end up in the post split top 6.  But some of those teams weren't in the top 6 at the end of season 18/19.

We are scheduled to play twice away against each of the teams that finished season 19/20 with the most points. The scum will play twice away against NONE of these teams. 

The corruption is in the planning.

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1 hour ago, Creampuff said:

This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides?

Think he means we are away twice to celtic, Aberdeen, Livingston, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and Hibs twice , and all Celtics double away games are at the bottom 6 from last season.

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