Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 The SPFL are one of the most shambolic institutions I have ever seen. During a court proceeding which was referred to the governing football body they broke company law by asking some members to go against other members, which is illegal, because they are duty bound to act in the best interests of all members. It defies belief and I just can’t see how Scottish football recovers from this. The only way for me is a disbandment of the SPFL and a new league body formed. The trust has completely gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 22,457 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: Dear Idiots who kissed celtic's arse You are getting nothing from us. Go fuck yourselves. Rangers FC You and your fucking legal jargon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 They’re all going begging to the man they’ve been following this whole time, only for Uncle Peter to do as he always does when things start looking bleak: remind them that they’re separate legal entities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,804 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: Dear Idiots who kissed celtic's arse You are getting nothing from us. Go fuck yourselves. Rangers FC Surely not legal parlance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, magic8ball said: Each home game for Peado Fc will be at least 1m at the gate ,they are desperate to try and get as many in as soon as possible , Luckily our fans have backed the club knowing they won’t be seeing many games anytime soon Theres no way they make a million at the gate every home game, at 30 quid a ticket they'd need 30k tickets sold, their ST base leaves them with 15k max fan allowance if not less They want the test and fans in for euro games, thats where they make their ticket money from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,561 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: You and your fucking legal jargon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,840 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Theres no way they make a million at the gate every home game, at 30 quid a ticket they'd need 30k tickets sold, their ST base leaves them with 15k max fan allowance if not less They want the test and fans in for euro games, thats where they make their ticket money from I’m including season tickets ,they ain’t shifting them like they need to ,the minute they can get folk in then they will get a boost in numbers , They will eventually get a decent number of season tickets sold but the longer without fans the price of that ticket goes down Each home game without fans will be at least 1/2M less in the biscuit tin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,840 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Don’t know if it’s been picked up and mentioned somewhere else ,This “random” fixture list has given us 2 away ties against the top 6 from last season. And the tarriers have 2 home ties against the bottom 6 , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, magic8ball said: Don’t know if it’s been picked up and mentioned somewhere else ,This “random” fixture list has given us 2 away ties against the top 6 from last season. And the tarriers have 2 home ties against the bottom 6 , This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Creampuff said: This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides? The problem comes after the split where we could have 3 away games against E.G. Aberdeen, Hibs and Motherwell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canabear 4,558 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alwaysblue said: The problem comes after the split where we could have 3 away games against E.G. Aberdeen, Hibs and Motherwell. Assuming they all make the top 6?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Canabear said: Assuming they all make the top 6?? One assumes they will! 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,261 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Creampuff said: This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides? Its corrupt and as much of a fix as can be made pre season. Theres more about it in the fixtures 20/21 thread. The top 6 teams by points were the scum, us, motherwell, sheep, livi and hivs in the season just ended. Simplifying it, we will play all of them twice away by the split, none of them home twice. The scum play none twice away, all of them home twice. Post split the scum tie will obviously be at ibrox. But if those other teams make the top 6 as is likely then we will play 2 of them a 3rd time away from home, whilst the scum play 2 of them a 3rd time at home. Its as rigged as it can be based on making one team play more away fixtures against the previous season's top teams whilst another plays them more at home. Based on last season's points finish, it literally is as rigged as it could possibly be as all 4 of the top 6 outside the OF are in the 'wrong' side of the draw for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,840 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Its corrupt and as much of a fix as can be made pre season. Theres more about it in the fixtures 20/21 thread. The top 6 teams by points were the scum, us, motherwell, sheep, livi and hivs in the season just ended. Simplifying it, we will play all of them twice away by the split, none of them home twice. The scum play none twice away, all of them home twice. The scum tie will obviously be at ibrox. But if those other teams make the top 6 as is likely then we will play 2 of them a 3rd time away from home, whilst the scum play 2 of them a 3rd time at home. Its as rigged as it can be based on making one team play more away fixtures against the previous season's top teams whilst another plays them more at home. Based on last season's points finish, it literally is as rigged as it could possibly be as all 4 of the top 6 outside the OF are in the 'wrong' side of the draw for us. Even simplified its complicated,maybe it is a coincidence this time don’t think they have the brains to work that out Starting to think the season end vote was cleverly thought out ,they knew a corrupt vote for bottom leagues would get challenged but having the premiership as a seperate “clean” vote weeks later would be unaffected by the corrupt vote if exposed Maybe I’m thinking to much but that’s modern Scotland ,corrupt in every instance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, Creampuff said: This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides? Its actually quite unbelievable, the top 6 from last season we go to twice pre split, tarriers only go their once, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,261 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, magic8ball said: Even simplified its complicated,maybe it is a coincidence this time don’t think they have the brains to work that out Starting to think the season end vote was cleverly thought out ,they knew a corrupt vote for bottom leagues would get challenged but having the premiership as a seperate “clean” vote weeks later would be unaffected by the corrupt vote if exposed Maybe I’m thinking to much but that’s modern Scotland ,corrupt in every instance 👍 In a 44 game league in the last 1/4 of fixtures we would have home games versus the rest of last season's top 6*, away versus last season's bottom 6 (well, Hearts or Dundee Utd). The scum would be the exact opposite. The split stops this from happening and makes us both play the new season's top 6 again. If its last season's top 6 then we are obliged to play several away again, whilst the scum play several at home again. Simples 😁 The practicality of us playing last seasons top 6 twice away compared to the scum playing twice at home is that our schedule is obviously harder. They never really have a difficult run that matches ours at the turn of the year, given they play harder teams at home and lesser teams away. But funnily enough even that wasn't a big enough guarantee, the spfl wanted it so that they themselves could decide on how the season was to be concluded in the event of a situation similar to this season. Almost like a further safety blanket Theres literally nothing more within the rules they could do to benefit the fixture scheduling for the scum, and the exact opposite for us. *based on points not PPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,261 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Its actually quite unbelievable, the top 6 from last season we go to twice pre split, tarriers only go their once, I think on the whole folk are pretty much unaware of this and the implications, loads seem to think the fixtures somehow even themselves out. Far from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Its actually quite unbelievable, the top 6 from last season we go to twice pre split, tarriers only go their once, If I remember right last season post split they would of been giving a lot of home games due to having played the top 6 away twice already. Could it be something they agree on season to season with the random computer too off course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,261 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: If I remember right last season post split they would of been giving a lot of home games due to having played the top 6 away twice already. Could it be something they agree on season to season with the random computer too off course. Last season the scum didn't face playing each of the previous season's top 6 (excl themselves) away from home twice before the split in the way our fixture scheduling has guaranteed this season. If the ones previously bottom 6 make it into the top 6 post split then the scum will possibly face them a 3rd time away from home. But thats a far different outcome than it being planned for us to face the previous season's top ranked teams away twice whereas the scum have the bottom ranked twice. The corruption in the scheduling 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Last season the scum didn't face playing each of the previous season's top 6 away from home twice before the split in the way our fixture scheduling has guaranteed this season. “However, by that point celtic will have already played every single team in the current top six away from home twice.“ If we reached the split they could of been in a position where they had played all of the top 6 twice away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canabear 4,558 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 SPFL fired Hearts and Partick Thistle warning as court overturns Belgian relegation decision Waasland-Beveren were initially demoted but have won a landmark ruling. The SPFL have been given a legal warning from Belgium, after Waasland-Beveren's relegation was overturned. Hearts and Partick Thistle will go to SFA arbitration after the early end to the season saw them relegated with games still to play. With the season due to start on August 1 it could throw the Premiership into crisis, with Dundee United on the other of the arbitration process after winning promotion. And the SPFL now face a worrying precedent after the Belgian Court of Arbitration for Sport overturned the decision to relegate Waasland-Beveren. On May 15 the season was declared over based on the table as it stood, with Club Brugge declared champions. But Beveren challenged that and the CBAS has now quashed the decision. In another worrying echo for Neil Doncaster and Co, the Belgian fixture list had already been published. Club spokesman Martijn De Jonghe said: "We never lost hope "We found it very odd that the fixtures were already released while legal proceedings were still under way. "It's a small victory, even if we obviously don't know what's going to happen next." While the Hearts and Thistle case will be arbitrated by the SFA, they do have the right to further appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne. With relegation overturned in both France and Belgium, at least provisionally, CAS may use that precedent if called to make a ruling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,358 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: If I remember right last season post split they would of been giving a lot of home games due to having played the top 6 away twice already. Could it be something they agree on season to season with the random computer too off course. Nah because if one team whos expected to make the top 6 fails to, then it fucks the whole planned fixtures The only thing that makes me think we just got unlucky is that if they picked this and the top 6 stays the same as last season, then we'd have played more away games than home, so my guess is that the fixture computer was told that the top 6 is going to be a different 6 from last season, so we'd need to find two teams who we only play away once that could make top 6, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Canabear said: SPFL fired Hearts and Partick Thistle warning as court overturns Belgian relegation decision Waasland-Beveren were initially demoted but have won a landmark ruling. The SPFL have been given a legal warning from Belgium, after Waasland-Beveren's relegation was overturned. Hearts and Partick Thistle will go to SFA arbitration after the early end to the season saw them relegated with games still to play. With the season due to start on August 1 it could throw the Premiership into crisis, with Dundee United on the other of the arbitration process after winning promotion. And the SPFL now face a worrying precedent after the Belgian Court of Arbitration for Sport overturned the decision to relegate Waasland-Beveren. On May 15 the season was declared over based on the table as it stood, with Club Brugge declared champions. But Beveren challenged that and the CBAS has now quashed the decision. In another worrying echo for Neil Doncaster and Co, the Belgian fixture list had already been published. Club spokesman Martijn De Jonghe said: "We never lost hope "We found it very odd that the fixtures were already released while legal proceedings were still under way. "It's a small victory, even if we obviously don't know what's going to happen next." While the Hearts and Thistle case will be arbitrated by the SFA, they do have the right to further appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne. With relegation overturned in both France and Belgium, at least provisionally, CAS may use that precedent if called to make a ruling. I think hearts and PT will get compo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,261 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: “However, by that point celtic will have already played every single team in the current top six away from home twice.“ If we reached the split they could of been in a position where they had played all of the top 6 twice away. Last season they could have been in the position of having played twice the teams who would end up in the post split top 6. But some of those teams weren't in the top 6 at the end of season 18/19. We are scheduled to play twice away against each of the teams that finished season 19/20 with the most points. The scum will play twice away against NONE of these teams. The corruption is in the planning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Creampuff said: This sounds like one of those things where if I bothered to check it’s not as bad as it sounds. What about the other 4 games? Presumably we have home ties against bottom six sides and they gave away ties against top 6 sides? Think he means we are away twice to celtic, Aberdeen, Livingston, Motherwell, Kilmarnock and Hibs twice , and all Celtics double away games are at the bottom 6 from last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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