TamCoopz 8,263 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, BlueKnight87 said: I remember game against hibs at ibrox we lost 3-2. That day I was convinced we were being cheated, Beaton was the ref. One of the most bias displays I'd seen. We have been cost points by ref decisions without a doubt. Imagine if the ones you highlighted mate went against scum fc. We all know the media barrage that would follow. As @eejay the dj pointed out our club know this. Stronger action is needed and that likely means having to fight fire with fire. Fucking wrestling match that day except we weren’t allowed to fight scottyscott1963 and BlueKnight87 like this Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Brubear 1,869 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 Regarding arbitration and the subsequent SFA charges brought against Hearts and PT the cynic in me thinks that the following will happen. Hears/PT will get a partially victory by being awarded compensation but not having relegation overturned. That will happen in final week of July in order that league can start on 1st August. Then at the SFA hearing addressing the charges brought against the pair ,scheduled for the 6th August, they will be each fined a very similar amount to the compensation they were awarded a week earlier. There will then be some rule pulled from somewhere that says the SFA can provide funds to the SPFL if they are suffering financial hardship. End result, Hearts/PT seen to have had justice on their case against SPFL but ends with SPFL not being out of pocket as SFA recover it from Hearts/PT for them. BlueAvenger, Teamgers, HG5 and 2 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
Alwaysblue 686 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Brubear said: Regarding arbitration and the subsequent SFA charges brought against Hearts and PT the cynic in me thinks that the following will happen. Hears/PT will get a partially victory by being awarded compensation but not having relegation overturned. That will happen in final week of July in order that league can start on 1st August. Then at the SFA hearing addressing the charges brought against the pair ,scheduled for the 6th August, they will be each fined a very similar amount to the compensation they were awarded a week earlier. There will then be some rule pulled from somewhere that says the SFA can provide funds to the SPFL if they are suffering financial hardship. End result, Hearts/PT seen to have had justice on their case against SPFL but ends with SPFL not being out of pocket as SFA recover it from Hearts/PT for them. Cynic 😀 glasgow argyle likes this Link to post Share on other sites
DietofWorms 1,844 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Brubear said: Regarding arbitration and the subsequent SFA charges brought against Hearts and PT the cynic in me thinks that the following will happen. Hears/PT will get a partially victory by being awarded compensation but not having relegation overturned. That will happen in final week of July in order that league can start on 1st August. Then at the SFA hearing addressing the charges brought against the pair ,scheduled for the 6th August, they will be each fined a very similar amount to the compensation they were awarded a week earlier. There will then be some rule pulled from somewhere that says the SFA can provide funds to the SPFL if they are suffering financial hardship. End result, Hearts/PT seen to have had justice on their case against SPFL but ends with SPFL not being out of pocket as SFA recover it from Hearts/PT for them. It's like you can see the future. HG5 likes this Link to post Share on other sites
Swally 6,287 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, DietofWorms said: It's like you can see the future. Ask him if we'll win the league this season! Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post GersInCanada 4,935 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 I was looking forward to the season starting again but right now I could not care if it is delayed. This mess needs sorted. What's the point in taking part in a competition we will not, under any circumstances, be allowed to win. The entire cabal needs to be dragged down and booted from the game. That, to me, is more important that starting on Aug 1. alibali59, Bad Robot, kelvd1873 and 15 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: I was looking forward to the season starting again but right now I could not care if it is delayed. This mess needs sorted. What's the point in taking part in a competition we will not, under any circumstances, be allowed to win. The entire cabal needs to be dragged down and booted from the game. That, to me, is more important that starting on Aug 1. Scottish football is such a shambles and so deep in corruption that I honestly couldn’t give a fuck when it starts to be honest. Looking forward to Rangers playing a friendly tomorrow, the league I really don’t care. magic8ball, Almacger, LiverpoolBlue and 10 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
Canabear 1,905 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Brubear said: Regarding arbitration and the subsequent SFA charges brought against Hearts and PT the cynic in me thinks that the following will happen. Hears/PT will get a partially victory by being awarded compensation but not having relegation overturned. That will happen in final week of July in order that league can start on 1st August. Then at the SFA hearing addressing the charges brought against the pair ,scheduled for the 6th August, they will be each fined a very similar amount to the compensation they were awarded a week earlier. There will then be some rule pulled from somewhere that says the SFA can provide funds to the SPFL if they are suffering financial hardship. End result, Hearts/PT seen to have had justice on their case against SPFL but ends with SPFL not being out of pocket as SFA recover it from Hearts/PT for them. So in other words Hearts and Partick Thistle are going through all this for absolutely nothing? Link to post Share on other sites
Canabear 1,905 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, gmcf said: Yeah , I don't know why it changed , but as eejay said , they seem to hate us even more than the tarriers . There was a time when Hearts were known as the wee Rangers and Clyde , believe it or not , were known as the wee celtic. Bad Robot and bornabear like this Link to post Share on other sites
gmcf 19,803 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Canabear said: There was a time when Hearts were known as the wee Rangers and Clyde , believe it or not , were known as the wee celtic. Oh I can believe it , the proddies of Edinburgh not that long ago . Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post bornabear 5,424 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Brubear said: Regarding arbitration and the subsequent SFA charges brought against Hearts and PT the cynic in me thinks that the following will happen. Hears/PT will get a partially victory by being awarded compensation but not having relegation overturned. That will happen in final week of July in order that league can start on 1st August. Then at the SFA hearing addressing the charges brought against the pair ,scheduled for the 6th August, they will be each fined a very similar amount to the compensation they were awarded a week earlier. There will then be some rule pulled from somewhere that says the SFA can provide funds to the SPFL if they are suffering financial hardship. End result, Hearts/PT seen to have had justice on their case against SPFL but ends with SPFL not being out of pocket as SFA recover it from Hearts/PT for them. The cynic in you may very well be right mate, in that you have unlocked the devious nature of SFA/spfl. Your end result fails only at the compensation bit. Hertz/PT are asking for £10m and I can't see them settling for less than half of that, ie £5m. The SFA can only fine both a max of £1m each, therefore the SFA/spfl would be £3m out of pocket. Plus, having been fined so heavily, Hertz/pt would appeal and the outrage of such a draconian fine would be on their side, forcing the SFA to reduce such fine. HG5, Negri's lovechild, Land Rover and 4 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post GersInCanada 4,935 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, bornabear said: The cynic in you may very well be right mate, in that you have unlocked the devious nature of SFA/spfl. Your end result fails only at the compensation bit. Hertz/PT are asking for £10m and I can't see them settling for less than half of that, ie £5m. The SFA can only fine both a max of £1m each, therefore the SFA/spfl would be £3m out of pocket. Plus, having been fined so heavily, Hertz/pt would appeal and the outrage of such a draconian fine would be on their side, forcing the SFA to reduce such fine. The Law lord warned the SPFL than using that clause could be deemed unlawful. He won't be a happy chap that they have ignored his warning and gone ahead anyway. Any punishment given to Hearts/Thistle will go straight to the court of session for a ruling. It's a last gasp attempt to bully and it simply won't work. Negri's lovechild, Bears r us, Howsitgoing and 8 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
Paisley Blue Loyal 6,821 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Ffs been at work all day and no long in I come in here expecting all hell to have broke loose and for it to take me hours to catch up and what do I find has happened, Sweet Fuck All 😂 Bears r us, scottyscott1963 and HG5 like this Link to post Share on other sites
bornabear 5,424 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said: Ffs been at work all day and no long in I come in here expecting all hell to have broke loose and for it to take me hours to catch up and what do I find has happened, Sweet Fuck All 😂 You're tooooo eager mate. Keep Calm, you just know there are more juicy bits to come. Have to say, I was like you midday though. 🤔 Paisley Blue Loyal likes this Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post BlueKnight87 9,929 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, GersInCanada said: I was looking forward to the season starting again but right now I could not care if it is delayed. This mess needs sorted. What's the point in taking part in a competition we will not, under any circumstances, be allowed to win. The entire cabal needs to be dragged down and booted from the game. That, to me, is more important that starting on Aug 1. I'd have no issues either with the league being delayed. We're in this mess due to the SPFL and their corruption. If it does get delayed it should be the end of the cabal. I wouldn't be surprised but to see hearts/thistle turned on by the other's in the league. Seems to be the done thing if anyone doesn't follow the party line. LiverpoolBlue, HG5, scottyscott1963 and 4 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
esquire8 17,463 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Surely something would've been leaked about when it is and who's up in the dock. Does the fact there isn't means theres deals being done behind the scenes? Link to post Share on other sites
bluenoz 16,242 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said: Ffs been at work all day and no long in I come in here expecting all hell to have broke loose and for it to take me hours to catch up and what do I find has happened, Sweet Fuck All 😂 I'm pretty arbitration is not until Thursday. Paisley Blue Loyal likes this Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post the cry was no 1,937 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, BlueKnight87 said: I remember game against hibs at ibrox we lost 3-2. That day I was convinced we were being cheated, Beaton was the ref. One of the most bias displays I'd seen. We have been cost points by ref decisions without a doubt. Imagine if the ones you highlighted mate went against scum fc. We all know the media barrage that would follow. As @eejay the dj pointed out our club know this. Stronger action is needed and that likely means having to fight fire with fire. Rounded off an "unfortunate" sequence of refereeing decisions in the opening 3 league games of the season. The night before Thistle were denied a stonewall penalty in the 93rd minute at Firhill to equalise v the scum The week before Wallace was wrongly flagged offside when laying on a perfectly good goal for Morelos at Ibrox v Hearts. Ended 0-0 The Hibs game was so blatant it was embarrassing. Stokes should have been off at 1-0 and then again when he grabbed Jack by the throat resulting in Jack red (later rescinded) and Stokes (already booked when he should have went off) staying on the pitch. McGeoch should have been off too around the hour mark when he halted someone on the half way line while already on a yellow. Result of these "errors" Tarriers on 9 points from 3 instead of 7 Us on 4 points from 3 instead of 9 5 points behind instead of 2 ahead = 7 point swing over first 3 games, playing catch up and heads down going to the first OF at the theatre of screams where Collum "missed" Jack being fouled in the build up to the only goal of the game. And oddly enough things never did balance themselves out over the season Bobby Hume, ronniescu, five stars and 10 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
the cry was no 1,937 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, bluenoz said: I'm pretty arbitration is not until Thursday. Bit big headed? dougie76, Canabear, Bobby Hume and 1 other like this Link to post Share on other sites
SeparateEntityMyArse 45,882 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, the cry was no said: Rounded off an "unfortunate" sequence of refereeing decisions in the opening 3 league games of the season. The night before Thistle were denied a stonewall penalty in the 93rd minute at Firhill to equalise v the scum The week before Wallace was wrongly flagged offside when laying on a perfectly good goal for Morelos at Ibrox v Hearts. Ended 0-0 The Hibs game was so blatant it was embarrassing. Stokes should have been off at 1-0 and then again when he grabbed Jack by the throat resulting in Jack red (later rescinded) and Stokes (already booked when he should have went off) staying on the pitch. McGeoch should have been off too around the hour mark when he halted someone on the half way line while already on a yellow. Result of these "errors" Tarriers on 9 points from 3 instead of 7 Us on 4 points from 3 instead of 9 5 points behind instead of 2 ahead = 7 point swing over first 3 games, playing catch up and heads down going to the first OF at the theatre of screams where Collum "missed" Jack being fouled in the build up to the only goal of the game. And oddly enough things never did balance themselves out over the season I've got a wee job for you come the start of the season mate...😁 Jamie0202 likes this Link to post Share on other sites
BlueboyG 2,239 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, bluenoz said: I'm pretty Bobby Hume and dougie76 like this Link to post Share on other sites
6superbarry6 8,585 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 We’ll have to be at our best against the sheep on opening game as they’ll 100% get every decision going, these corrupt fenian bastards will be doing everything they can to give the taigs a head start, they’ve already cherry picked the easiest league opener for them Paisley Blue Loyal and BlueboyG like this Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post eejay the dj 31,141 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, billscott said: whats the betting clancy will have our 1st game at aberdeen if not he will be at the dump for their game v hamilton Clancy got 2 games in a row after his cheating performance in our 2-1 win there ..So you can bet he will be prominent in the big fixtures .I remember ,seeing him send Lennon to the stand in a game at Kilmarnock few years back .And thought there and then .That is Colum moment .The one and only decision he ever gives against them .To be fair .He has given us a little more than Colum has ,in the 10 or so years that he has been a ref .Colum is just way too clever . The bheasts must be lapping this all up.They will say it’s about time ,as the refs gave us everything for decades .That is a mindset that makes all the bias shown now , ok in their minds nowadays HG5, Bobby Hume, magic8ball and 5 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
magic8ball 18,486 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Clancy got 2 games in a row after his cheating performance in our 2-1 win there ..So you can bet he will be prominent in the big fixtures .I remember ,seeing him send Lennon to the stand in a game at Kilmarnock few years back .And thought there and then .That is Colum moment .The one and only decision he ever gives against them .To be fair .He has given us a little more than Colum has ,in the 10 or so years that he has been a ref .Colum is just way too clever . The bheasts must be lapping this all up.They will say it’s about time ,as the refs gave us everything for decades .That is a mindset that makes all the bias shown now , ok in their minds nowadays Tarrier cunts lost their shit when we did eventually get a turn after many many wrong ones, Golsdson handball against Hamilton in the cup, all the shite from the previous 2 games against them airbrushed from history HG5, Howsitgoing and eejay the dj like this Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post BridgeIsBlue 58,582 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: We’ll have to be at our best against the sheep on opening game as they’ll 100% get every decision going, these corrupt fenian bastards will be doing everything they can to give the taigs a head start, they’ve already cherry picked the easiest league opener for them No point moaning about any dubious refereeing decision next season when the board are quite clearly happy with the way things have panned out. murzo, bornabear, eejay the dj and 3 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
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