SPFL Shambles

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,144]

1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

They do have to hand it over but theres no timestamp on it. Only the SPFL promised to have it sorted before the start of the season.

Time Lord Clark got his fucking finger out then and either order they hand it over pronto or bring it back to court to be sorted out once and for all in full public view, How the fuck can an arbitration panel be expected to make an informed judgement/ruling if vital evidence is allowed to be withheld ffs.

[esquire8 42,376]

2 minutes ago, Paisley Blue Loyal said:

Time Lord Clark got his fucking finger out then and either order they hand it over pronto or bring it back to court to be sorted out once and for all in full public view, How the fuck can an arbitration panel be expected to make an informed judgement/ruling if vital evidence is allowed to be withheld ffs.

An arbitration panel being hosted by an association that has charged one of the parties involved too. Fucking incredible how this has been allowed. Surely not even Lord Clark could see this coming. The withholding of documentation could be just incredulous rumour but does add up to the delay. A delay which the arbitration does not have time for.

[GersInCanada 7,775]

Looks like it goes ahead next week.

Some suggesting that SPFL were offering compensation to stop arbitration and avoid the document hand over. Did not work.

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,144]

1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

An arbitration panel being hosted by an association that has charged one of the parties involved too. Fucking incredible how this has been allowed. Surely not even Lord Clark could see this coming. The withholding of documentation could be just incredulous rumour but does add up to the delay. A delay which the arbitration does not have time for.

Only 1 thing for it imo if the arbitration panel is not in receipt of all the relevant information to make an informed ruling before August 1st and that’s for Hearts/Thistle to light The Blue Touch Paper and seek an Interim Interdict to prevent the season from starting on time, In for a Penny in for a Pound as they say.

[the cry was no 3,027]

22 hours ago, B1872 said:

We need to start making examples of these tramps 

We tried that by stating unequivocally why Shifty was unfit to be chairman (openly saying how much he hates us as well as his compromised situation with the tarriers two largest shareholders)

They told us to go and fling shite at the moon and be thankful they don’t punish us 

Years of using an imaginary victim status to get their own way resulting in taking control while still playing the victim has made them feel untouchable and they won’t give that up without an almighty fight

Sadly, as witnessed over the past few months, no cunt other than us gives a flying fuck and appear terrified to oppose the most blatant corruption in the history of Scottish football 

having a compliant mhedia completes the circle where anyone questioning the blatant corruption instantly becomes the bad guys
 

Unfortunately that is the tarrier shitehole decades of complacency has allowed to develop 

 

 

[TamCoopz 19,605]

51 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

An arbitration panel being hosted by an association that has charged one of the parties involved too. Fucking incredible how this has been allowed. Surely not even Lord Clark could see this coming. The withholding of documentation could be just incredulous rumour but does add up to the delay. A delay which the arbitration does not have time for.

Did hearts and Partick teach you a new word? 🙄

[Teamgers 1,214]

31 minutes ago, the cry was no said:

We tried that by stating unequivocally why Shifty was unfit to be chairman (openly saying how much he hates us as well as his compromised situation with the tarriers two largest shareholders)

They told us to go and fling shite at the moon and be thankful they don’t punish us 

Years of using an imaginary victim status to get their own way resulting in taking control while still playing the victim has made them feel untouchable and they won’t give that up without an almighty fight

Sadly, as witnessed over the past few months, no cunt other than us gives a flying fuck and appear terrified to oppose the most blatant corruption in the history of Scottish football 

having a compliant mhedia completes the circle where anyone questioning the blatant corruption instantly becomes the bad guys
 

Unfortunately that is the tarrier shitehole decades of complacency has allowed to develop 

 

 

Post of the day mate, well said.

[esquire8 42,376]

13 minutes ago, TamCoopz said:

Did hearts and Partick teach you a new word? 🙄

Everyday you learn something new 

[BroonBear 696]

On 16/07/2020 at 17:30, GersInCanada said:

Just because rebuilding will be difficult is no reason not to do it.

 An independent commissioner with a fixed term who can be fired is ideal. No club shall have any influence in the new set up. Call it spfl2 or whatever.

But that still leaves the SFA to get the disinfectant treatment which would be much trickier.

I get what you and others are saying about rebuilding but that doesn't need to be what happens. Why not start with an SPFL board that is open with all it's dealings, clearly acts in the best interest of all 42 member clubs and when a decision is required from all its members, they present all options available. There should be backup evidence for every decision made by the SPFL.

[Alwaysblue 709]

Don’t know if this has already been posted

[Sweetheart 8,458]

On 17/07/2020 at 17:13, esquire8 said:

SFA and SPFL will be getting their attack all lined up before handing over any documentation. The fact Dundee have allegedly not hand a thing over either stinks.

That does stink. If Dundee are not handing anything over will they be submitting the Deloitte inquiry documents to explain the Good Friday vote?  If so then surely Rangers will be called to give evidence as they asked for a EGM for an independent inquiry because the scope was not wide enough. 

I can't help the think the SPFL/SFA are stalling the arbitration process so that the SKY 10iar tv contract kicks in and leaves only the compensation route. If the hearing is next week then the Arbitration panel need to give their ruling and allow time for Hearts and PT to take this back to court as the judge said. 

Could Hearts and PT ask for an interim interdict to pause the new season before the SKY contract activates on the 1st August?

 

[magic8ball 27,901]

On 17/07/2020 at 17:34, GersInCanada said:

Looks like it goes ahead next week.

Some suggesting that SPFL were offering compensation to stop arbitration and avoid the document hand over. Did not work.

Looks like Hearts and PT are going for this snakes head then, either that or the compo offer was severely lacking 

[magic8ball 27,901]

44 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

That does stink. If Dundee are not handing anything over will they be submitting the Deloitte inquiry documents to explain the Good Friday vote?  If so then surely Rangers will be called to give evidence as they asked for a EGM for an independent inquiry because the scope was not wide enough. 

I can't help the think the SPFL/SFA are stalling the arbitration process so that the SKY 10iar tv contract kicks in and leaves only the compensation route. If the hearing is next week then the Arbitration panel need to give their ruling and allow time for Hearts and PT to take this back to court as the judge said. 

Could Hearts and PT ask for an interim interdict to pause the new season before the SKY contract activates on the 1st August?

 

Surely all the info required will be in this Deliotte report, Well you would think a world renowned company would have had a thorough investigation, so just hand over this report 😁

Another glaring error from SPFL this Deliotte report only took a couple of days to compile, funny how its taking over a week to find documents required 

 

 

[kelvd1873 7,133]

33 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

Another glaring error from SPFL this Deliotte report only took a couple of days to compile, funny how its taking over a week to find documents required 

You’ll find that on liewells desk hidden under the 2/3/4 year child abuse internal investigation papers.... Filed under SHITE!!

[magic8ball 27,901]

31 minutes ago, kelvd1873 said:

You’ll find that on liewells desk hidden under the 2/3/4 year child abuse internal investigation papers.... Filed under SHITE!!

Will any of the league members actually ask to see they paid for but didn't ask for and will they get to find out how much they paid for it 

(probably done as a homer anyway and not through Delloite officially) 

[Sweetheart 8,458]

1 hour ago, magic8ball said:

Surely all the info required will be in this Deliotte report, Well you would think a world renowned company would have had a thorough investigation, so just hand over this report 😁

Another glaring error from SPFL this Deliotte report only took a couple of days to compile, funny how its taking over a week to find documents required 

 

 

Agreed. I really hope this panel is honest and fair as this effects the future of Scottish football and any chance of getting corruption out of the game.

I hope Dundee have handed over their statements to the panel as I think this one will bite the SPFL on the arse. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/club-statement-26/ 

I wish Hearts and PT the best of luck and hope they are reinstated. 

[magic8ball 27,901]

8 hours ago, Sweetheart said:

Agreed. I really hope this panel is honest and fair as this effects the future of Scottish football and any chance of getting corruption out of the game.

I hope Dundee have handed over their statements to the panel as I think this one will bite the SPFL on the arse. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/club-statement-26/ 

I wish Hearts and PT the best of luck and hope they are reinstated. 

I read that statement at the time ,strange how it reads slightly differently now that we know a lot more of what went on in the last few months 

[GM63 2,177]

I was heavily involved in disclosure for 30yrs when it comes to bodies such as these it can be hard to get the appropriate documentation, as a caveat to the above a judge has ordered full disclosure if anyone mentioned is dragging their heels their solicitors advice is either very very wrong or being ignored deliberately or under duress. No matter what way it’s dishonest and in contempt.

[GersInCanada 7,775]

15 minutes ago, GM63 said:

I was heavily involved in disclosure for 30yrs when it comes to bodies such as these it can be hard to get the appropriate documentation, as a caveat to the above a judge has ordered full disclosure if anyone mentioned is dragging their heels their solicitors advice is either very very wrong or being ignored deliberately or under duress. No matter what way it’s dishonest and in contempt.

Ball park number but the SPFL are a company with a turnover of, say, 30M.

Surely they would have a documentation officer whose job is to archive and safely store all of the company's documentation allowing for easy retrieval for exactly this type of scenario.

If not then why not is the question. 

[GM63 2,177]

9 minutes ago, GersInCanada said:

Ball park number but the SPFL are a company with a turnover of, say, 30M.

Surely they would have a documentation officer whose job is to archive and safely store all of the company's documentation allowing for easy retrieval for exactly this type of scenario.

If not then why not is the question. 

Sadly outside public bodies (who all follow a similar govt endorsed way of maintaining records as per the DPA) companies out with that can archive their documents anyway they wish, making it hard to find the correct information - where one may store it in “A” another may store it in “W” for example as that may be an obscure unused word/phrase - If full disclosure was ordered then even that may be limited to full disclosure on only the parts involving Hearts and PT. 

Dundee may have created a problem for all sides as they are still looking for their payoff for the miscast vote (sic) but if they have been ordered they must eventually comply, which they will

[magic8ball 27,901]

48 minutes ago, GersInCanada said:

Ball park number but the SPFL are a company with a turnover of, say, 30M.

Surely they would have a documentation officer whose job is to archive and safely store all of the company's documentation allowing for easy retrieval for exactly this type of scenario.

If not then why not is the question. 

Conveniently furloughed will be the excuse 

[Dickie 12,905]

2 hours ago, GersInCanada said:

Ball park number but the SPFL are a company with a turnover of, say, 30M.

Surely they would have a documentation officer whose job is to archive and safely store all of the company's documentation allowing for easy retrieval for exactly this type of scenario.

If not then why not is the question. 

This is a mob who didn’t even minute meetings so anything goes.

[Malkster 4,874]

2 hours ago, Dickie said:

This is a mob who didn’t even minute meetings so anything goes.

Mickey Mouse has a SPFL watch

[eejay the dj 31,964]

This seems to go on and on 

I just don’t think it’s going to end well for the good guys .

[Sweetheart 8,458]

9 hours ago, GM63 said:

I was heavily involved in disclosure for 30yrs when it comes to bodies such as these it can be hard to get the appropriate documentation, as a caveat to the above a judge has ordered full disclosure if anyone mentioned is dragging their heels their solicitors advice is either very very wrong or being ignored deliberately or under duress. No matter what way it’s dishonest and in contempt.

If Dundee and the SPFL are found in contempt, would the court order a forensic investigation to reveal what they are trying to hide? They are hiding something as they have gone to great lengths to stop an independent inquiry and shut down anyone asking questions surrounding the Good Friday vote.