SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: If we need experience signed as cover, why have we none as cover for both fullback positions, especially given how important our fullbacks are Last year people wanted Patterson thrown in at Tynecastle having played 1 first team game at home to Stranraer, yet apparently we need another experienced centre half the now when wr already have edmunson and Goldson to nurture bassey and mayo Come on mate, the spine of the team is where most would agree the strength and experience is needed. Id love it to be all 11 positions, but if it can't then I can accept it more on the flanks. Goldson was the only experienced CH, and even he isn't the most experienced himself. Edmundson is being coached by him. You're advocating one CH nurturing 3 others, 2 of whom I'm not even sure CH is their natural position and where they've no experience at all professionally let alone at this level. You'd be happy to run with that, I see it as potentially ruinous to our season if something happened to Edmundson or worse Goldson. Edmundson and Bassey versus the scum, sheep, or in Europe. Holy fuck please no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jintybear 8,536 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Did edmunson cost us any points last season? Probably find both tav and goldson made way more costly mistakes You say GE isn't the answer, if not then why the hell is he here, he's 22, if he's not good enough now to play against the shite in scotland he never will be I think he’s here as back up for Helander but he does give me the fear. Just for the record I don’t really like Helander either. I liked the Goldson / Katic partnership. I agree about Goldson being a bomb scare sometimes but as you know he is undroppable so we need to find a suitable partner to play alongside him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,460 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: e, he's 22, if he's not good enough now to play against the shite in scotland he never will be so if you're not ready at 22 you can't make it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybear123 215 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Reckon this guy could bring the best out in goldson. Means he won’t have to focus as much on talking edmundson/katic through games and just focus on his own game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Why not, we have no experienced fullback cover Probably a lot to do with the fact he can't play football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Whole defence except Barisic is shite and I'd be amazed if this guy makes the slightest difference to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelydan1690 20,228 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 minute ago, .Williamson. said: Whole defence except Barisic is shite and I'd be amazed if this guy makes the slightest difference to that That's the spirit, good positive start to the season ya prick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Just now, Steelydan1690 said: That's the spirit, good positive start to the season ya prick I'm a realist mate. If we manage to achieve a comfortable second place this coming season we have done as well as can be hoped for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,461 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Wonder if he’ll get game time today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Listened to his RTV interview and it mentioned he was in the top 3 mins:goals ratio in gbe championship. Thats very decent for a CH in lower half team that played as often as he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Wonder if he’ll get game time today? He’s not had a COVID test done yet so yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Hes never been a great goalscorer. 4 goals is his best return over a season. 16 goals in 260 games or something. Unless he has a purple patch, be very surprised if he scores more than a couple even being a regular. Similar to Goldson in that regard. I took it as a defensive goals ratio, ie goals against when he played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Because imo we didnt, certainly not a full wage signing eating into the funds for other positions So you really think goldson,a injured helander and a raw edmundson is enough to go through most of season? You honestly think that is enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 484 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Football Stewart said he’s the opposite from Katic on Twitter. Does anyone know what he meant by that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamb 126 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 According to Wikipedia he's only played 20 games in the last 2 years, let's not judge him until we see him play in this shambles of a league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 3 hours ago, ger4life_1872 said: so if you're not ready at 22 you can't make it Well no, especially if your sitting on the bench or in the stand all season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, Laudrup1690 said: So you really think goldson,a injured helander and a raw edmundson is enough to go through most of season? You honestly think that is enough? Bassey can cover there as well, in emergencies, and while it may not be enough, we had way more important positions to deal with, we didnt fall 13 behind the tarriers post new year due to the defence (although they madr a few blunders) What about right back then, you happy having a raw untested youngster as the only cover for our starting right back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 3 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Come on mate, the spine of the team is where most would agree the strength and experience is needed. Id love it to be all 11 positions, but if it can't then I can accept it more on the flanks. Goldson was the only experienced CH, and even he isn't the most experienced himself. Edmundson is being coached by him. You're advocating one CH nurturing 3 others, 2 of whom I'm not even sure CH is their natural position and where they've no experience at all professionally let alone at this level. You'd be happy to run with that, I see it as potentially ruinous to our season if something happened to Edmundson or worse Goldson. Edmundson and Bassey versus the scum, sheep, or in Europe. Holy fuck please no. Why is the spine most important in a system that focuses on the fullbacks doing a lot of the work? We keep going on about the worse that could happen if a defender gets crocked, meanwhile we just watched defoe go off injured in a game leaving us with one striker who may or may not be arsed being here You say edmunson and bassey versus the scum, sheep and in Europe is bad, what about patterson, barker and stewart playing these 3 teams if tav, hagi and our strikers arent available Its all ifs and buts, we don't even play the tarriers till october, helander might be flying fit by then, but the fact is we are a week away from the season starting with pretty much the same forward thinking players that struggled to score for 2 months post winter break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,469 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Only when it suits, last season we were happy to throw inexperienced 18yo's into battles, this season we cant trust a 22yo centre half thats played about 100 career games so far People wanted Patterson played because we hear all the time he’s up there with the best in the academy and is very good, we also had Flanagan who was beyond pish and Polster who the manager didn’t want to keep by all accounts until he played a decent 45 against the worst team in the league. Edmundson was pish away to Hamilton and cost us a goal, and less said about Leverkusen the better, although he was great away to Braga. 25 minutes ago, Ted E Bayer said: Football Stewart said he’s the opposite from Katic on Twitter. Does anyone know what he meant by that? He’s good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1690 1,064 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Bassey can cover there as well, in emergencies, and while it may not be enough, we had way more important positions to deal with, we didnt fall 13 behind the tarriers post new year due to the defence (although they madr a few blunders) What about right back then, you happy having a raw untested youngster as the only cover for our starting right back? On what basis do you know bassey can cover there?hes a our cover for left back and should stay that way. No let’s not sign a experienced defender because our back up left bassey can play there..aye good one. yeah I have tbh because we all know it will only be a few games because I can count on one hand how many games tav has missed in 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted July 25, 2020 Author Share Posted July 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Only when it suits, last season we were happy to throw inexperienced 18yo's into battles, this season we cant trust a 22yo centre half thats played about 100 career games so far Maybe people’s opinions on that has changed because last season absolutely fell off a cliff and this season is considered the most important one we’ve had for many a year so people want us to play better and more experienced players whenever possible. That’s certainly been what I’ve seen the majority of people saying all summer anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: People wanted Patterson played because we hear all the time he’s up there with the best in the academy and is very good, we also had Flanagan who was beyond pish and Polster who the manager didn’t want to keep by all accounts until he played a decent 45 against the worst team in the league. Edmundson was pish away to Hamilton and cost us a goal, and less said about Leverkusen the better, although he was great away to Braga. He’s good? So people wanted an academy player thrown into one of the hardest away grounds we go to, a ground we were honking at earlier in the season, but we dont trust a 22yo who played a lot of his career in league one down south Edmunson was pish away to Hamilton, i can pick way more than one game that goldson and tav should have been lined up and shot after for their performances, why dont we replace them as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Laudrup1690 said: On what basis do you know bassey can cover there?hes a our cover for left back and should stay that way. No let’s not sign a experienced defender because our back up left bassey can play there..aye good one. yeah I have tbh because we all know it will only be a few games because I can count on one hand how many games tav has missed in 5 years. Tav missing they few games was the start of our collapse, same as morelos missing, we dont have decent cover for them yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tamb said: According to Wikipedia he's only played 20 games in the last 2 years, let's not judge him until we see him play in this shambles of a league. He's played international matches too in that period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: Maybe people’s opinions on that has changed because last season absolutely fell off a cliff and this season is considered the most important one we’ve had for many a year so people want us to play better and more experienced players whenever possible. That’s certainly been what I’ve seen the majority of people saying all summer anyway. Yet the season will start with what looks like the exact same front 3 and midfield 3 that absolutely shat the bed post winter break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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