SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 51 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Correct, would have been well offside 👍 7 minutes ago, Blues Brother said: I still haven’t seen a clear picture of it. That’s all. Until I do then it’s inconclusive You're at it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: You're at it. I’d like to see where Hagi is as the ball is headed towards goal. But to be honest it’s not that big a deal. I just haven’t clearly seen his position at that moment. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Correct, would have been well offside 👍 5 minutes ago, Blues Brother said: I’d like to see where Hagi is as the ball is headed towards goal. But to be honest it’s not that big a deal. I just haven’t clearly seen his position at that moment. Cheers That image is a split second before the defender's shoulder knocks it into the bar. Is there any particular reason you fail to see Hagi is at least 3 feet offside if it had came off Roofe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: That image is a split second before the defender's shoulder knocks it into the bar. Is there any particular reason you fail to see Hagi is at least 3 feet offside if it had came off Roofe? I do see that he looks offside, but just wanted to see it as the ball hits the defender. I thought at the time he could have been off. As I said though it’s not a big deal 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Blues Brother said: I do see that he looks offside, but just wanted to see it as the ball hits the defender. I thought at the time he could have been off. As I said though it’s not a big deal 👍 He is offside. He was at the time, he is now, hes never been close to onside. The photo is a split second from nailing that but it is still the case. Do you accept now he was offside if Roofe had headed the ball? Not sure though why the very same image being posted previously wasn't sufficient, but we got there in the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: He is offside. He was at the time, he is now, hes never been close to onside. The photo is a split second from nailing that but it is still the case. Do you accept now he was offside if Roofe had headed the ball? Not sure though why the very same image being posted previously wasn't sufficient, but we got there in the end. There is no need to be patronising. I’d just prefer to see it as the ball was played onto the bar. and I’ll say it again, it’s no big deal 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,717 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 A very frustrating exchange here. ForeverAndEver, ger4life_1872, raging blue 1972 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Blues Brother said: There is no need to be patronising. I’d just prefer to see it as the ball was played onto the bar. and I’ll say it again, it’s no big deal 👍 So you accept he was offside? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: So you accept he was offside? No the ball hit the defender 😂😂😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: So you accept he was offside? 1 minute ago, Blues Brother said: No the ball hit the defender 😂😂😂 Yes he was. Your like a dog with a bone 🦴 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Blues Brother said: No the ball hit the defender 😂😂😂 Correct 👍 And you accept he would have been offside had Roofe headed it on instead of it coming off the defender? Blues Brother 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Blues Brother said: Yes he was. Your like a dog with a bone 🦴 why are you quoting yourself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: why are you quoting yourself? Didn’t mean to. Must be getting tired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raging blue 1972 894 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 cheers guys was finding it hard to get to sleep here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robmc1 4,741 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 9 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: So just ignore it all then? I do, was imparting that very advice to TCWN, occasionally I have tuned in when they are involved in any controversy (Edouard recently striking an opponents face) however as always all I find is disappointment through their lack of parity in comparison to the witch-hunt they led against Morelos. Give MSM sport platforms a miss re anything Rangers or set your expectation levels low and you won’t be disappointed. I personally signed up to HaH during lockdown via Patreon and would highly recommend it to any supporter for factual funny and subjective Rangers news and information... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Sweetheart said: I'm noting that the ref slows the game down with nit picking fouls against Rangers that other teams get away with. I believe this is what helps teams park the bus. I didn't say it happened in this case. As I said I'm interested to see how many games this season nit picking fouls will break our teams momentum I get what you mean and agree. The ref often stops our momentum and does not give us an advantage; but blows for the foul and allows the other team to get back into position when the break is clearly on. Saying that, Collum had a good game, for Collum. Sweetheart 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, ZZed said: I get what you mean and agree. The ref often stops our momentum and does not give us an advantage; but blows for the foul and allows the other team to get back into position when the break is clearly on. Saying that, Collum had a good game, for Collum. He fabricated a foul by Roofe to not give us a penalty, it doesn’t get much worse than that. magic8ball, WCPRANGERS1, ZZed and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said: He fabricated a foul by Roofe to not give us a penalty, it doesn’t get much worse than that. And, thats him having a good game. Dave Hedgehog, Sweetheart and Bears 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, ZZed said: I get what you mean and agree. The ref often stops our momentum and does not give us an advantage; but blows for the foul and allows the other team to get back into position when the break is clearly on. Saying that, Collum had a good game, for Collum. It was Accies away and we scored twice early . I honestly wouldn't give him credit He was doing what any of the older refs were meant to do . Simply ref the game fairly He still couldn't do that magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,000 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Why are folk still arguing about Hagi being offside, even ignoring the ball hitting the defender to loop onto the bar,both the goalie and another defender hit the ball into Hagi's path, regardless of where he is standing, he is onside. There i have just bloody argued about it myself. magic8ball 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Why are folk still arguing about Hagi being offside, even ignoring the ball hitting the defender to loop onto the bar,both the goalie and another defender hit the ball into Hagi's path, regardless of where he is standing, he is onside. There i have just bloody argued about it myself. If the ball had came off Roofe there's every chance Hagi should have been called offside. He gained advantage from being in an offside position. This can still apply if the shot is saved, deflected off the woodwork, or at times off another player. The ambiguity in this scenario is whether the goalline defender deliberately plays the ball, or whether his involvement could be considered a part of the save / deflection. If its the former its onside, if its the latter its arguable he'd be offside. This is a good article https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://behindthefootball.com/can-you-be-offside-if-the-ball-comes-off-a-defender/&ved=2ahUKEwjI2pu12MfrAhWfQhUIHe1yBykQtwIwDHoECAIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0HBQJReKLXzh0nhKNNtwPJ I think there's a case for both onside / offside, its not clear cut either way (except when it comes off the defenders shoulder). dummiesoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,000 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: If the ball had came off Roofe there's every chance Hagi should have been called offside. He gained advantage from being in an offside position. This can still apply if the shot is saved, deflected off the woodwork, or at times off another player. The ambiguity in this scenario is whether the goalline defender deliberately plays the ball, or whether his involvement could be considered a part of the save / deflection. If its the former its onside, if its the latter its arguable he'd be offside. This is a good article https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://behindthefootball.com/can-you-be-offside-if-the-ball-comes-off-a-defender/&ved=2ahUKEwjI2pu12MfrAhWfQhUIHe1yBykQtwIwDHoECAIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0HBQJReKLXzh0nhKNNtwPJ I think there's a case for both onside / offside, its not clear cut either way (except when it comes off the defenders shoulder). That is as clear an explanation as I have seen, so the ball hits the bar, hits the goalie them hits a defender, for each one of those scenarios on their own Hagi is off. Bloody confusing as all three happened before it reached Hagi. Still think he is onside after all that. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,000 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Maybe there should be a separate rules thread , keep this one for blatant stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,615 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Maybe there should be a separate rules thread , keep this one for blatant stuff Would be fine if you weren't clogging up the thread 😂 dummiesoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,521 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I’m confused is Gollum a bear or no? or a Tim? or shit at refereeing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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