ForeverAndEver 71,458 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Re the pen claim, how many times or angles you seen it from? 1 angle I've seen and few repeats. That's why I'm not ssying it was a pen, contact was defo made on him without getting the ball. I'll try tomorrow to get the Hayes one up. Not a red i don't think, though again little analysis by the commentators, but it looked naughty. Just the one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,229 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 This is a fucking embarrassment man. Kind of thread if we heard that mob having on kerrydale street and be pishing ourselves. ForeverAndEver and The No.9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, British_Empire said: Same tbh. Surprisingly. Also, I don't know If I'm quite there yet with the "referee's are cheats" theory (even though the comments midweek were worrying) I'm not ruling it out. The corruption in Scottish football is blatant and in front of our faces, so why not assume it stretches to ref's too. They're certainly incompetent, at best. Perhaps being too kind there. I'm clear in saying I dont think refs sit huddled in rooms conspiring against us. But looking after their careers, going with the flow, being scared to officiate freely for fear of recriminations, being a RC sympathiser, etc. More possible. I always ask for where 'incompetence' balances up. Refs decisions in our favour, the way Beaton and Clancy have been against. Never received a comparison yet. For folk to explain why we get players sent off for blowing kisses or cheering a goal or for a superman dive grabbing Morelos neck by the last man results with Morelos booked .....yet a scum player gets away card free with celebrating amongst the crowd as the "crowd didn't fall over". Top of fair play (and least suspensions) are the scum every season. If folk want vids of shocking challenges they've got away with im happy to supply. I question why after all the compliance involvement against us, for the scum the only player ever retrosoectively done by CO for on field issued was Christie ( out injured coincidentally at the time😂). And finally. If there's no dodgy goings on then surely its a good thing to assess it all and demonstrate that? The scum don't want VAR, there's a reason. If we put pressure on the scum come the turn if the year that reason will become clear on this thread. 😁 Jonok, Bears, SURRENDERNO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I'm clear in saying I dont think refs sit huddled in rooms conspiring against us. But looking after their careers, going with the flow, being scared to officiate freely for fear of recriminations, being a RC sympathiser, etc. More possible. I always ask for where 'incompetence' balances up. Refs decisions in our favour, the way Beaton and Clancy have been against. Never received a comparison yet. For folk to explain why we get players sent off for blowing kisses or cheering a goal, for a superman dive grabbing Morelos neck by the last man resukts with Morelos booked yet a scum player gets away card free with celebrating amongst the crowd as the crowd didn't fall over. Top of fair play (and least suspensions) are the scum every season. If folk want vids of shocking challenges they've got away with im happy to supply. I question why after all the compliance involvement against us, for the scum the only player ever retrosoectively done by CO for on field issued was Christie ( out injured coincidentally at the time😂). And finally. If there's no dodgy goings on then surely its a good thing to assess it all and demonstrate that? The scum don't want VAR, there's a reason. If we put pressure on the scum come the turn if the year that reason will become clear on this thread. 😁 I'm not saying your thread is a good or bad idea. I'm just making a general point of my own. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 51 minutes ago, GabrielTomato said: To think we used to sing 'Its a Conspiracy'... Before Beaton, Collum, and Clancy blew their first toy whistles as kids. Good times they were 😁 Jamie0202 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Just the one. Bookmark this. For discussion on Trial by Sportscene conversations on this thread in weeks to come. 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, British_Empire said: I'm not saying your thread is a good or bad idea. I'm just making a general point of my own. I get that. Just thought it was the relevant post to reply to with my wee spiel 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, SPWF said: This is a fucking embarrassment man. Kind of thread if we heard that mob having on kerrydale street and be pishing ourselves. Great. You think we're treated fairly, or its just incompetence that balances itself out. You'll enjoy seeing this thread bomb as you're proven right then surely. Btw, can you give an example of a ref performance where we favoured from wrong decisions in the manner Hivs did with Beaton or the scum did with Clancy? Please be specific and detailed 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 Can anyone (Michael Stewart excluded) define how the compliance officer was informed of, or became aware of issues to consider for investigation / punishment? Fair system? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVRanger 2,623 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 As someone who used to ridicule bheggars in the local boozer for believing there was a SFA / masonic conspiracy against rasellick, I'm not entirely sure how seriously this thread should be treated.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robmc1 4,741 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 We won yesterday because we were the better team on the day, regardless of any officiating, let’s make this the theme of season 2021🇬🇧... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,821 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 When the heading refers to this season and not last season, it was probably best to wait until something bad happens (and it will) before starting the conspiracy thread. We actually went 90 minutes at Pittodrie yesterday without a yellow card! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, MVRanger said: As someone who used to ridicule bheggars in the local boozer for believing there was a SFA / masonic conspiracy against rasellick, I'm not entirely sure how seriously this thread should be treated.... Up to you to decide how serious. Here a previous one for you to decide if there's any issues or not 🤔 Sweetheart 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dummiesoot 16,005 Posted August 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, bluenoz said: When the heading refers to this season and not last season, it was probably best to wait until something bad happens (and it will) before starting the conspiracy thread. We actually went 90 minutes at Pittodrie yesterday without a yellow card! Why should he wait, every season SEMA has done this he has also highlighted the decisions that should have not gone for us. it is my recollection that if a decision is debatable among our own, ie 50/50 he takes it out of the tally. There is balance in a way, though there will be some bias axis natural. I don't get the issue given some of the ref performances in recent seasons. Jamie0202, Bears r us, TamCoopz and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, bluenoz said: When the heading refers to this season and not last season, it was probably best to wait until something bad happens (and it will) before starting the conspiracy thread. We actually went 90 minutes at Pittodrie yesterday without a yellow card! I've said to several posters previously I'd start this up. If there's no issues, as I'd assume we all hope, then surely its beneficial to acknowledge that rather than jump on bad decisions. I'll highlight poor decisions for and against. Moaning after bad decisions and losses smacks of sour grapes. TamCoopz and dougie76 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,821 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I've said to several posters previously I'd start this up. If there's no issues, as I'd assume we all hope, then surely its beneficial to acknowledge that rather than jump on bad decisions. I'll highlight poor decisions for and against. Moaning after bad decisions and losses smacks of sour grapes. Mate, I'm sure your thread will be well used in the coming months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,821 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Why should he wait, every season SEMA has done this he has also highlighted the decisions that should have not gone for us. it is my recollection that if a decision is debatable among our own, ie 50/50 he takes it out of the tally. There is balance in a way, though there will be some bias axis natural. I don't get the issue given some of the ref performances in recent seasons. As long as we don't get carried away and look for things that aren't there. I know some thought it was a penalty but it would have been very soft. Apart from that, there really wasn't any conspiracies to talk about. A yellow for Ferguson maybe...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Mate, I'm sure your thread will be well used in the coming months. No doubt. I do try to keep it objective and balanced. More than happy for those who say its embarassing or taig like to input, hold me to account, and see how it pans out 👍 bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bears r us 30,791 Posted August 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2020 We would all like this thread to have nothing but positive posts about how good the refs have been in every game, but I doubt that will happen and after what we have endured the last couple of seasons I see nothing wrong in starting it after a fairly decent performance from Madden. Just have a look at the last two seasons threads that SEMA has done on this subject if you think it is not a good idea. The other option I use most days is if you do not like a thread or it does not interest you just ignore it. Simples. SeparateEntityMyArse, Negri's lovechild, TamCoopz and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 See all the surrender monkeys that think this is embarrassing well you are part of the problem. we are competing against fhilth who will kick, scratch and play dirty all the way in the pursuit of nine in a row this season. We need to call this out and highlight any injustice and put pressure on the referees to think twice before they make any contentious decisions against us. For a decade any referee has been hounded if they make an error against them, hounded to the position thaT anytime they have a big call to make in one of their games they will sit on the fence and not take the risk of being wrong and all the shit that comes with it. we need to box clever and put pressure on those that make errors that affect us know that it will not go unchallenged. wise the fuck up and grown a set hammer93, Davidorrp, Jamie0202 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, bluenoz said: As long as we don't get carried away and look for things that aren't there. I know some thought it was a penalty but it would have been very soft. Apart from that, there really wasn't any conspiracies to talk about. A yellow for Ferguson maybe...? 35 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I'm clear in saying I dont think refs sit huddled in rooms conspiring against us. But looking after their careers, going with the flow, being scared to officiate freely for fear of recriminations, being a RC sympathiser, etc. More possible. I always ask for where 'incompetence' balances up. Refs decisions in our favour, the way Beaton and Clancy have been against. Never received a comparison yet. For folk to explain why we get players sent off for blowing kisses or cheering a goal or for a superman dive grabbing Morelos neck by the last man results with Morelos booked .....yet a scum player gets away card free with celebrating amongst the crowd as the "crowd didn't fall over". Top of fair play (and least suspensions) are the scum every season. If folk want vids of shocking challenges they've got away with im happy to supply. I question why after all the compliance involvement against us, for the scum the only player ever retrosoectively done by CO for on field issued was Christie ( out injured coincidentally at the time😂). And finally. If there's no dodgy goings on then surely its a good thing to assess it all and demonstrate that? The scum don't want VAR, there's a reason. If we put pressure on the scum come the turn if the year that reason will become clear on this thread. 😁 This is the background to the thread mate, I've run a similar titled thread for several seasons now, just kept it consistent, but my post above explains my views. Bears r us and bluenoz 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Why should he wait, every season SEMA has done this he has also highlighted the decisions that should have not gone for us. it is my recollection that if a decision is debatable among our own, ie 50/50 he takes it out of the tally. There is balance in a way, though there will be some bias axis natural. I don't get the issue given some of the ref performances in recent seasons. 👍 Gut feeling is that it was a foul and penalty against Morelos in the last minute. Seems identical to one sheep got at Ibrox. That one had multiple angle replays, yesterday's didnt so inconclusive. No huge outrage in here, so even though its my gut feeling, its not being included in the figures. Hopefully that's seen by all as fair and objective, and we'll see how it all pans out based on that approach. dummiesoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, King Jela said: Delibrately decided against giving us a stonewall penalty, he unserstood Clancy's message loud and clear through the week. What was clancys message? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, bluenoz said: As long as we don't get carried away and look for things that aren't there. I know some thought it was a penalty but it would have been very soft. Apart from that, there really wasn't any conspiracies to talk about. A yellow for Ferguson maybe...? Not trying to be funny mate but I wonder if you would have thought the same if it was 0-0 at the time, I thought it was a pen, soft maybe but a pen nevertheless and it's not the 1st time Beaton has done this. And another thing I know two of the previous games were only friendlies but Hagi v motherwell and more blatant Patterson v coventry, there are another two instances already of us being denied penalties, funnily enough by two Scottish officials Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, GWR1979 said: What was clancys message? Clancy doesn't need to send a message, he's definitely a cheat, no hidden messages from that DFB. GWR1979 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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