BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Is this absolutely necessary? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 centre mids are soul destroying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Don’t mind one player in that role as a deep lying playmaker but there absolutely no need for 2 to be that deep in the SPFL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,223 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Nothing needs changing remember... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,530 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Maybe we can start breaking out the positional data when we lose a point, or even a goal, against domestic opposition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, rangersross said: Maybe we can start breaking out the positional data when we lose a point, or even a goal, against domestic opposition? Aye cause there's no point in trying to improve the team is there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I don't understand what it's supposed to be getting at tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Swally said: I don't understand what it's supposed to be getting at tbh Jack is running about holding Kamaras hand in case both of them get lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, BridgeIsBlue said: Jack is running about holding Kamaras hand in case both of them get lost. if a player runs from A to B A----------------------------------------------B His average will be bang in the middle of that? So I don't understand how the analysis tells us anything I'm probably just thick as fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Swally said: I don't understand what it's supposed to be getting at tbh I don’t either. Our full backs are incredibly attacking (their average position shows that) and that obviously means that Kamara and Jack are being asked to be more disciplined and play in tandem to keep us solid and stop us being open to counter attacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: I don’t either. Our full backs are incredibly attacking (their average position shows that) and that obviously means that Kamara and Jack are being asked to be more disciplined and play in tandem to keep us solid and stop us being open to counter attacks. At Pittodrie it's needed but at home to St Mirren? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: I don’t either. Our full backs are incredibly attacking (their average position shows that) and that obviously means that Kamara and Jack are being asked to be more disciplined and play in tandem to keep us solid and stop us being open to counter attacks. agreed, the whole team except from them and our CBs are often gung ho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Sinner 298 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Game against Aberdeen was a bit rough but we had 30 shots, 3 goals and 75% possession against St Mirren. But, I would like us to drop one of Jack and Kamara tbh. The manager likes this extremely controlled way of playing, it’s not going anywhere soon imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said: At Pittodrie it's needed but at home to St Mirren? I don't know mate, it's difficult to say when we have what nearly 30 shots and St Mirren aren't really attacking. Rather be a bit safe than be hit with a sucker punch I don't kow tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: At Pittodrie it's needed but at home to St Mirren? We won 3-0 and never looked in danger of losing the game so, no, it doesn’t bother me at all. Aribo is also playing in a far more advanced role too. It’s effectively the 4-2-3-1, with incredibly attacking full backs, that people have been crying out for the past two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: We won 3-0 and never looked in danger of losing the game so, no, it doesn’t bother me at all. Aribo is also playing in a far more advanced role too. It’s effectively the 4-2-3-1, with incredibly attacking full backs, that people have been crying out for the past two years. It's also good to have some sort of out ball, sometimes it's better to go backwards to switch play and stretch the other team about a bit when they're parking the bus Wouldn't really trust Goldson with that kind of thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Swally said: I don't know mate, it's difficult to say when we have what nearly 30 shots and St Mirren aren't really attacking. Rather be a bit safe than be hit with a sucker punch I don't kow tbh 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: We won 3-0 and never looked in danger of losing the game so, no, it doesn’t bother me at all. Aribo is also playing in a far more advanced role too. It’s effectively the 4-2-3-1, with incredibly attacking full backs, that people have been crying out for the past two years. It adds to what I've been saying for weeks if we could get a quality player in to play that role it makes a world of difference instead of having 2 players doing the one job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: It adds to what I've been saying for weeks if we could get a quality player in to play that role it makes a world of difference instead of having 2 players doing the one job. I totally agree mate, I've been saying that for a while as well but for me there's too many possibilities as to how the CMs could have arrived at that average. That's why I'm finding it difficult to use it in any kind of smart way that I can see You know what I mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 If we win every home game 3-0 and every away game 1-0, then Gerrard can play Bassey as a lone striker and Kemar Roofe as a sweeper for all I care. That said, I don't think it's necessary to play two holding midfielders every game in the SPL - especially against the likes of St Mirren at home. The problem you've got, is that it's the way Gerrard's played, from day one - and we're now in his third season. So he's not going to change. I don't like it personally, but I ask myself if we change it about are we then back to square one and undone all the good work that has been acomplished thus far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, DBBTB said: We won 3-0 and never looked in danger of losing the game so, no, it doesn’t bother me at all. Aribo is also playing in a far more advanced role too. It’s effectively the 4-2-3-1, with incredibly attacking full backs, that people have been crying out for the past two years. Aye, but one of the 2 can also be an attacking threat most of the time. At Ibrox it should be the two centra halves at half way line with the CDM in front, not 2 CDM’s sitting in front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,530 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Aye cause there's no point in trying to improve the team is there? In my view there’s no point in fans drawing attention to incidental positional data which seems to suggest an ‘issue’ when the reality is the system is working. If we kept dropping points and I thought there was any chance our highly qualified coaches hadn’t noticed where our midfielders play (or that it wasn’t on purpose) I might think differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, rangersross said: In my view there’s no point in fans drawing attention to incidental positional data which seems to suggest an ‘issue’ when the reality is the system is working. If we kept dropping points and I thought there was any chance our highly qualified coaches hadn’t noticed where our midfielders play (or that it wasn’t on purpose) I might think differently. To be fair it was an issue plenty of times, domestically, last season. Same tactics and setup. But I do agree it's a bit crass and doesn't feel quite right being critical of a system that's seen us win our first two games, two clean sheets (including one at Pittodrie) and are top of the league (albeit early doors) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothianbear 361 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I always feel that Jack and Kamara playing in the same starting 11 leaves us looking like we’re a man short Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Aye, but one of the 2 can also be an attacking threat most of the time. At Ibrox it should be the two centra halves at half way line with the CDM in front, not 2 CDM’s sitting in front. I miss the highline and intense pressing we used to play when he first came in. 6 minutes ago, rangersross said: In my view there’s no point in fans drawing attention to incidental positional data which seems to suggest an ‘issue’ when the reality is the system is working. If we kept dropping points and I thought there was any chance our highly qualified coaches hadn’t noticed where our midfielders play (or that it wasn’t on purpose) I might think differently. We've played with the same system in the middle of the park since Gerrard has arrived and it's only ever lasted in Europe. Months ago people were screaming for an upgrade and now it's ignored because we've won 2 games, madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, rangersross said: In my view there’s no point in fans drawing attention to incidental positional data which seems to suggest an ‘issue’ when the reality is the system is working. If we kept dropping points and I thought there was any chance our highly qualified coaches hadn’t noticed where our midfielders play (or that it wasn’t on purpose) I might think differently. Our highly qualified coaches and this system have won us not a single trophy in Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.