esquire8 41,911 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, The Dude said: Yet two very separate organisations. Ones existed since 1997, the other since 1873. SPFL technically is 2012 isn't it? Wouldn't shock me if both organisations merged soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, esquire8 said: SPFL technically is 2012 isn't it? Wouldn't shock me if both organisations merged soon. No. It's the same company as the SPL was. It was renamed in 2013 to SPFL and expanded to include the 30 SFL clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, esquire8 said: SPFL technically is 2012 isn't it? Wouldn't shock me if both organisations merged soon. Dunwilcoooooo 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,631 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, The Dude said: It wasnt the SPFL who fined them. The SFA are cut from the same cloth, so my point stands I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, DMax399 said: The SFA are cut from the same cloth, so my point stands I believe. It doesn't particularly, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,304 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 When do find out what is to happen to the sheep and scum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,631 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, The Dude said: It doesn't particularly, no. You are of course entitled to your own opinion, with which, I respectfully disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,631 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: When do find out what is to happen to the sheep and scum? Uncle Peter is in the process of deciding now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, DMax399 said: You are of course entitled to your own opinion, with which, I respectfully disagree. It's not a matter of opinion though. They are quite clearly two separate bodies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Dude said: It doesn't particularly, no. You know what bears mean Dude . Why do always strive to be right all the time . From time to time , just let is it lie man. They are both corrupt towards the bheasts . Full of haters and guys that are only interested in helping one club. No matter what happens here , it will be a smokescreen . It will eventually lead to the powers saying/ praising the bheasts , that they did all they could do . At the very worst. A small fine . Never on a month of Sundays ...... A points deduction . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: You know what bears mean Dude . Why do always strive to be right all the time . From time to time , just let is it lie man. They are both corrupt towards the bheasts . Full of haters and guys that are only interested in helping one club. No matter what happens here , it will be a smokescreen . It will eventually lead to the powers saying/ praising the bheasts , that they did all they could do . At the very worst. A small fine . Never on a month of Sundays ...... A points deduction . We moan like fuck about the lack of accuracy then when someone makes the point of being accurate, we moan like fuck. It's almost like we don't actually want accuracy but just want to hear what reaffirms our own view, regardless of how wrong it may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,031 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Dude said: It's not a matter of opinion though. They are quite clearly two separate bodies. but they’re both dancing to the same puppet master Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: We moan like fuck about the lack of accuracy then when someone makes the point of being accurate, we moan like fuck. It's almost like we don't actually want accuracy but just want to hear what reaffirms our own view, regardless of how wrong it may be. We are football fans , not compliance auditors . You are miles away from seeing that .It just doesn't compute with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: We are football fans , not compliance auditors . You are miles away from seeing that .It just doesn't compute with you Nobody is asking anyone to be a compliance auditor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 So what's happening with this then? The players been charged, or is it the clubs and the players that have both been charged? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Swally said: So what's happening with this then? The players been charged, or is it the clubs and the players that have both been charged? Both. Players by SFA, clubs by SPFL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Both. Players by SFA, clubs by SPFL So I was correct and you were wrong. As I stated the clubs are responsible for what the players do, and will now have to prove that they did notify the player to a sufficient extent that he 100% knew what to, and what not to do. I then gave examples of other companies procedures simply to show, not what the clubs should have done - but what other companies do because they know the ramifications for not communicating critical information to employees properly if something does happen. I don't normally say I told you so, but for you to tell me I'm wrong, and then state your apparent vast knowledge on the subject which according to you - trumps mine - I certainly will. Your head is so far up your own arse you can hear your own voice twice. Reply in whatever way you want, you have so little respect for anyone elses opinion so I'm sticking you back on ignore, honestly can't be arse with the hassle. To copy another poster's joke - ʇɐʍʇ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Swally said: So I was correct and you were wrong. As I stated the clubs are responsible for what the players do, and will now have to prove that they did notify the player to a sufficient extent that he 100% knew what to, and what not to do. I then gave examples of other companies procedures simply to show, not what the clubs should have done - but what other companies do because they know the ramifications for not communicating critical information to employees properly if something does happen. I don't normally say I told you so, but for you to tell me I'm wrong, and then state your apparent vast knowledge on the subject which according to you - trumps mine - I certainly will. Your head is so far up your own arse you can hear your own voice twice. Reply in whatever way you want, you have so little respect for anyone elses opinion so I'm sticking you back on ignore, honestly can't be arse with the hassle. To copy another poster's joke - ʇɐʍʇ Oh the fucking irony. Im still pretty surprised that the SPFL have used their new rules to haul celtic and Aberdeen up and far from convinced any penalties will stick since they are retrospective. While both clubs have been cited, theres still not actually any punishment against them. Im sure should the SPFL find neither club has a case to answer you'll be just as magnanimous and tell everyone I was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory awaits 282 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Don’t think the Aberdeen players have much of a case to answer, were rules put in place saying they couldn’t go out.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 What are the potential punishments the clubs could face? If forfeiting future games an option? Point docking? I'd love to see them hammered. but if they show lenience then precedence has been set in case any of our own fuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 It would be refreshing to see the two worst cunt clubs in Scotland get hammered for this as to set an example. They have their due, particularly the scum. Hopefully Sturgeon has sent the message to the authorities to hammer the cunts. No doubt the players will get hung out to dry by the SFA but my expectation from the SPFL on the clubs isn't much though, but a shock from them would be welcome. A points deduction for the scum on fielding an ineligible player would be a good start. Did the cunts know he was back from his foreign outing? Course they fucking did. Let us see the whitewash on that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 12,905 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Can’t imagine liewell will be losing any sleep worrying about what punishment to give his own club. Probably say his legal team will launch an investigation once they finish with the boys club one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,771 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I don’t think the scum knew. The way Bolingoli has been treated I’d imagine he’d have piped up. The only hope is when he moves he will drop them in it. I imagine he’s singed a NDA about the whole thing and gotten a sweetener Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, gogzy said: What are the potential punishments the clubs could face? If forfeiting future games an option? Point docking? I'd love to see them hammered. but if they show lenience then precedence has been set in case any of our own fuck up. Going on what the SPFL's existing powers are, it looks like its one from the below: give a warning as to future conduct; give a reprimand; impose a fine; annul the result of an Official Match; order that an Official Match be replayed; impose a deduction of points; award an Official Match (with such deemed score as it thinks appropriate) to a Club; order the playing of an Official Match or Matches behind closed doors; order the closure of all or part of a Stadium for such period and for such purposes as it thinks appropriate; order the playing of an Official Match or Matches at such Stadium as it thinks appropriate; order the relegation of a Club to a lower Division and make such consequent orders as to promotion as it shall think appropriate; order that a Club be expelled from the League; withdraw or withhold the award of a title or award; order any Club, Official or Player to pay compensation to any Club, Player, person or party; order any Club, Official or Player to comply with any obligation or direction; cancel or refuse the League Registration of any Player League Registered or attempted to be League Registered; order that a Club concerned be debarred from Registering Players for such period as it thinks appropriate; order that any person, persons or group of persons be prohibited from attending at such Official Match or Matches and for such period as it thinks appropriate; make such other direction, sanction or disposal, not expressly provided for in these Rules, as it shall think appropriate; and/or make such order as to expenses, including the expenses of the Company and/or, as the case may be, Commission and/or other party, as it thinks appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, A.T.G said: I don’t think the scum knew. The way Bolingoli has been treated I’d imagine he’d have piped up. The only hope is when he moves he will drop them in it. I imagine he’s singed a NDA about the whole thing and gotten a sweetener yea I saw some say that the club would hold his passport and he would need to ask them for it. Only problem with that is, it is illegal for an employer to hold your Passport or birth certificate in the UK. He would have had his passport in his possession and could have traveled when ever he wanted to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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