Forfeit game! Points deduction.

[five stars 1,621]

It's irrelevant whether they knew about his travel or not.

They gained an unfair advantage by playing someone who should be in quarantine.

No other club is allowed, intentionally or not to select players under this circumstance.

[ForeverAndEver 71,450]

34 minutes ago, Colin Traive said:

So they tell the players where they’re going (eg away to Lazio last season) and the players all make their own bookings, presumably claiming back through expenses?

What happens when the international teams need them then for their away games? 

[BridgeIsBlue 66,606]

Can this thread not be moved it doesn't even concern us in the first place... 

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

There's not though.

There should be

[raging blue 1972 894]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

He's not. You can repeat it as many times as you want, it doesn't make it true. If he was ineligible, why no charge for fielding an ineligible player? 

so the whole Rangers squad could go on a jolly weekend to spain etc, come back and play on the wednesday and they are not ineligible to play?

if that is the case then its fucked up

[British_Empire 9,648]

3 minutes ago, raging blue 1972 said:

if he had to quarantine and played then of course he is unless played via zoom lol

This is the part I don't understand. 

What am I not getting?

If someone is in quarantine does that make them eligible to play? has the definition of this term changed literally overnight since celtic have been cited? 

If it's illegal for him to play, he's still ineligible. 

 

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

There's not though.

Was he allowed to play sport from the minute he stepped back into Scotland for the following 14 days?

[British_Empire 9,648]

1 minute ago, BridgeIsBlue said:

Can this thread not be moved it doesn't even concern us in the first place... 

If we lose or win the league by 3-points, it does.

[bluenoz 30,810]

Just now, The Dude said:

He's not. You can repeat it as many times as you want, it doesn't make it true. If he was ineligible, why no charge for fielding an ineligible player? 

Because the SFA or SPFL haven't amended their rules to keep up with Covid times although they seem to change the rules on the fly when it suits them.

The boy participated in the game illegally under gov't quarantine rules and therefore was ineligible.

That logic seems beyond you or more likely, you are one bored fucker who takes the alternative view to amuse yourself.

[Real Ranger 3,193]

12 minutes ago, The Dude said:

No. By removing the player from their 25-man player list and replacing him with someone else while he served his suspension, they tried to game the system and it bit them on the arse.

UEFA delegate wasn't complicit. Its down to the club to ensure the player is eligible to play.

If they had deliberately flouted the rules there is no way they would have brought him on when the tie was effectively won.

 

[graeme_4 34,430]

Might be a stupid question, or might have missed it, but if celtic didn’t know about it. Who did? 

And, how did the story break? 

[TamCoopz 19,605]

4 minutes ago, five stars said:

It's irrelevant whether they knew about his travel or not.

They gained an unfair advantage by playing someone who should be in quarantine.

No other club is allowed, intentionally or not to select players under this circumstance.

Don’t really see how they gained an advantage tbh 😂😂

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

ineligible

/ɪnˈɛlɪdʒɪb(ə)l/

adjective

legally or officially unable to be considered for a position or benefit.

Was he legally unable to be considered to play in sport? Yes.

3-0 to Kilmarnock.

[Blueshoff 11,772]

Decades of child abuse., decades of covering up child abuse, free land from the council, free upgrade of surrounding area, EBTs (Jojuniho), bogus tour of Japan, appalling support record in Europe - no sanctions and no fines. 

Anyone really expect anything to happen? 

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, raging blue 1972 said:

so the whole Rangers squad could go on a jolly weekend to spain etc, come back and play on the wednesday and they are not ineligible to play?

if that is the case then its fucked up

Yes. Their eligibility to play relates to them being registered to play and not being subject to a suspension.

Eligibility covers a very narrow scope in terms of their registration.

[bluenoz 30,810]

Just now, graeme_4 said:

Might be a stupid question, or might have missed it, but if celtic didn’t know about it. Who did? 

And, how did the story break? 

and why is the information as to when and where he returned to shroud in secrecy?

[Swally 6,289]

Any Club which

(i) Plays a Player who is not eligible to Play;

(ii) Plays a Player in circumstances which are not in accordance with the Rules and/or Regulations; and/or

(iii) applies to Scottish FA Register a Player without the consent of the Board where such consent is required by the Rules or Regulations, shall be in breach of these Regulations

Did celtic play a player in accordance with the current rules & regulations?

Doesn't health & safety & government ruling trump SPFL rules?

[The Dude 20,026]

2 minutes ago, Real Ranger said:

If they had deliberately flouted the rules there is no way they would have brought him on when the tie was effectively won.

 

Legia even took it to CAS demanding compensation or reinstatement and were laughed out of the place.

 

[raging blue 1972 894]

4 minutes ago, raging blue 1972 said:

so the whole Rangers squad could go on a jolly weekend to spain etc, come back and play on the wednesday and they are not ineligible to play?

if that is the case then its fucked up

@thedude

and to further add if this is the case can we do it now and get the league stopped and be awarded the championship

[Swally 6,289]

5 minutes ago, British_Empire said:

This is the part I don't understand. 

What am I not getting?

If someone is in quarantine does that make them eligible to play? has the definition of this term changed literally overnight since celtic have been cited? 

If it's illegal for him to play, he's still ineligible. 

 

People are getting caught up with a word which can mean various things to us, but is strictly defined in the rules.

There is a case for arguing the player was eligible to play, however, as I've just posted it's not the only relevant criteria.

 

[shotstopper 765]

1 minute ago, TamCoopz said:

Don’t really see how they gained an advantage tbh 😂😂

They were not winning, so tried changing tactics to get the three points - didn't work.

[British_Empire 9,648]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

Legia even took it to CAS demanding compensation or reinstatement and were laughed out of the place.

 

I don't think anyone's doubting they fielded an ineligible player though. It's a yardstick/precedent for celtic again, 5 or 6 years later though. 

If it was good enough for them to benefit from once, it should be good enough for them to be properly accountable for now IMO.

[The Dude 20,026]

1 minute ago, raging blue 1972 said:

@thedude

and to further add if this is the case can we do it now and get the league stopped and be awarded the championship

No. If we done it now and got the season stopped you'd all be demanding we had points deductions so we wouldn't be top of the table.

[Real Ranger 3,193]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

Legia even took it to CAS demanding compensation or reinstatement and were laughed out of the place.

 

In what way does that mean they deliberately flouted the rules.

No one is denying they didn’t break the rules.

[The Dude 20,026]

6 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

Might be a stupid question, or might have missed it, but if celtic didn’t know about it. Who did? 

And, how did the story break? 

celtic fan grassed him in for a few sheckels,